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IS THE AM RADIO BAND DOOMED? WHAT DO YOU THINK? I DON'T THINK SO!

N1WVQ said:
I know Tom Ray of WOR said several months or a year ago that when WOR's HD software or hardware fails he may not replace it. He also said there hasn't been any return on investment and further states that: A. buying a (then) new Ford (2010-11 model years) with HD met with blank stares, confusion over Sirius/XM & the revelation that his was their 1st HD call ever; B. His news director had bought a foreign car with HD & told him it sucks because of the drop-out problems..
This is a big blow to iBiquity.... He was their chief promoter a few years back.
 
N1WVQ said:
HD signals aren't much more than Providence. I've even lost WWBB's signals.

does WFAN, WABC, WCBS, or WINS do HD and decode in Rhode Island? theyre all ridiculously strong in Newport
 
carmen said:
N1WVQ said:
HD signals aren't much more than Providence. I've even lost WWBB's signals.

does WFAN, WABC, WCBS, or WINS do HD and decode in Rhode Island? theyre all ridiculously strong in Newport


wfan decodes at night most of the time wins and wcbs do not,and wwbb shut theirs off i think because of wfnx!!
 
No skywave has ever even gotten my HD lamp to blink just once, but then South Florida is always being hammered from Cuba and elsewhere. I can not say the same for any AM Stereo mode. They were always trigering my various recievers, both genuinely and falsely.
 
I tried the A.M. band once @ night. No stations would decode. The HD signal was too weak for the radio. That was in East Providence. WBZ just triggers the pilot but isn't strong enough to lock in East Providence nor here in Middleborough, Ma. which is closer.
 
ONLY THE SUITS DOOM AM RADIO

JIBGUY said:
.....AM will be the more progressive stations with the "FM approach" of 1970....... What brought people to FM in the 1970 era, will bring people to AM in the future. AM will survive......

First, THANK YOU, Bob, for validating one of my "crazy" ideas I've advocated for more than 20 years now! People WILL tolerate somewhat lower fidelity if it's the only source of the programing they want. Otherwise, no one would have listened to internet radio in the '90s, and folks with slow connections (like me) wouldn't listen now.

Cleaning up the band: if the FCC prohibited stations from devoting the bulk of their airtime to infomercials, some of the marginal operations would pack it in, eliminating a chunk of interference. Broadcasting garbage just to keep the dump from going dark has got to stop. Ethnic time-brokering, OK. Citizens buying time to play the music they like, fine. Colon cleanser, hit the road.

Cleaning up the band, cont'd: Make the electric companies fix buzzy powerlines and transformers. Ban ExxonMobile Speed Pass until it stops screwing up reception (up to half a mile away!).

Also: Make better receivers!! Ban those cheap little FM-only portables. Then be listening for Stereo 980, WFNX Lowell (no offense, 'CAP). 8)
 
Re: ONLY THE SUITS DOOM AM RADIO

Schuyler said:
Cleaning up the band: if the FCC prohibited stations from devoting the bulk of their airtime to infomercials, some of the marginal operations would pack it in, eliminating a chunk of interference. Broadcasting garbage just to keep the dump from going dark has got to stop. Ethnic time-brokering, OK. Citizens buying time to play the music they like, fine. Colon cleanser, hit the road.

The FCC has no say over how much or how little paid content a commercial station can carry. That would be an unconstitutional restraint on commerce.
 
They did. It was an illegal practice for a very long time, on radio and TV both. I see no reason why it shouldn't be restricted to a small percentage of the broadcast week. Only those profiting from it would disagree, as there is no Kevin Trudeau fan club, believe it or not.
 
Re: ONLY THE SUITS DOOM AM RADIO

CTListener said:
The FCC has no say over how much or how little paid content a commercial station can carry. That would be an unconstitutional restraint on commerce.

I don't think that particular reason has ever been used, and I'm not sure it would stick. Broadcasting is different from most industries, in that there is a physical limit to how many businesses can operate in this field. It's been held the government may require a license to broadcast, may refuse licenses to otherwise-qualified applicants if there is no spectrum available for them, and may use various criteria to determine which applicants may be accommodated.

That said, indeed for quite some time the FCC has not chosen to exert any control over commercial load. They're out of the program content business pretty much completely.

They did indirectly regulate commercial load in the past. Stations were expected to specify how much time they planned to spend airing particular types of programming; in a competitive situation, the applicant which promised to air less commercial time might be favored over other applicants -- and would be checked at renewal time to make sure they lived up to their promise.

But yes, that went by the wayside years ago and there is zero prospect it will be resurrected.
 
If one's vision of "The AM band" is some kind of maintained bandwidth scarcity which can be used for
profit high enough to satisfy modern unbridled capitalism, then AM is doomed, and has been a walking corpse
since deregulation.

There are many other visions in which such artificial scarcity is neither necessary or even desirable.
 
N1WVQ said:
Radio World, August 11th 2010 edition: http://www.rwonline.com/article/hd-radio-shouldn39t-be-this-hard/3684

Yes, he was just about Pope of the Church of ibiquity.

Still is. iBiquity needed a good boot in the ass. Mr. Ray is one of the very few guys capable of administering one hard enough to get iBiquity's attention. He did.

His rant is a legitimate bitch about iBiquity's lack of front line support for HD's proponents. Basically told them that if they don't get their act together and their thumb out of their ass; they are going to relegate HD to oblivion.

He broke down the options, costs and goon work involved in replacing a $1,000 factory installed non-HD with a $500 amalgamation of adaptors and aftermarket radios for Joe Consumer to enjoy HD radio.

John Q. Public takes a much easier route. He goes to a local convenience store or gas station and plunks down $19.95 (plus tax) for an FM modulator. He then is able to plug in the Insignia; just as he does the iPod, CD, satellite and any other audio component his in-dash tunes can't support. Set the modulator to a clear FM frequency and enjoy crystal clear HD stereo music. That is how millions of people enjoy music devices the factory installed equipment cannot play. Not even a screwdriver is needed, just the occasional couple of AA batteries. Inexpensive underdash FM converters that played on AM radio enabled FM to take off in automobiles long before automakers started providing FM across their model lines. Inexpensive, easy install converters will do the exact same thing for HD.

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iyiyi said:
N1WVQ said:
Radio World, August 11th 2010 edition: http://www.rwonline.com/article/hd-radio-shouldn39t-be-this-hard/3684

Yes, he was just about Pope of the Church of ibiquity.

Still is. iBiquity needed a good boot in the ass. Mr. Ray is one of the very few guys capable of administering one hard enough to get iBiquity's attention. He did.

His rant is a legitimate bitch about iBiquity's lack of front line support for HD's proponents. Basically told them that if they don't get their act together and their thumb out of their ass; they are going to relegate HD to oblivion.

He broke down the options, costs and goon work involved in replacing a $1,000 factory installed non-HD with a $500 amalgamation of adaptors and aftermarket radios for Joe Consumer to enjoy HD radio.

John Q. Public takes a much easier route. He goes to a local convenience store or gas station and plunks down $19.95 (plus tax) for an FM modulator. He then is able to plug in the Insignia; just as he does the iPod, CD, satellite and any other audio component his in-dash tunes can't support. Set the modulator to a clear FM frequency and enjoy crystal clear HD stereo music. That is how millions of people enjoy music devices the factory installed equipment cannot play. Not even a screwdriver is needed, just the occasional couple of AA batteries. Inexpensive underdash FM converters that played on AM radio enabled FM to take off in automobiles long before automakers started providing FM across their model lines. Inexpensive, easy install converters will do the exact same thing for HD.

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I'll tell you what... if you can show me one person with no connections to the radio industry that 1) bought what is essentially a $50 walkman with FM HD capability and 2) bought an FM modulator to use it in the car, then I'll buy what you're saying.

I don't think that person exists.
 
They certainly DO exist. if only to prove that such an excercise is beyond what most consumers could or would
do if they cared to try.

The exception proves the rule, and the rule is people are frequently lazy about "mental elbow grease",
so if it ain't easy, it ain't happenin.
 
If AM radio is so doomed as some folks here say, they why do I get several offers a year from people who cant to buy 740? (most offers are from people/companies who want to do religion, ethnic, infomercials).
 
JIBGUY said:
typo above..... replace "cant" with "want".
Please don't sell JIB! Your station is an oasis of music in a sea of radio crap. Please pardon the grammar. Keep up the good work, Bob! (By the way, I remember that dramatic WNTN sign-on and sign-off that you used to do when you worked there.)
 
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