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Is this happening in Nashville, other radio markets, maybe it is ??

signalid said:
firepoint525 said:
DToTheJ said:
Doesn't Nashville already have an "oldies" station at around 88.1 FM, operated by the University of Tennessee?
WVCP 88.5 FM, Vol State Community College station. Unfortunately for me, they are in Gallatin, and can only be received on the north and east sides of Nashville. For those of us on the south and west sides, it's WKOM or nothing.
Maybe WVCP 88.5 could get a translator on 104.9 near the SW side of downtown. You want the translator near downtown to get the office people. While 104.9 would help cover the south and west sides of Nashville.
I've been offline for most of the past week, so this is my first opportunity to respond to this, but doesn't Solid Gospel already broadcast one of their stations over 104.9?
 
Firepoint,

You are correct. Solid Gospel is on 104.9, with the station and the network owned by the Salem Radio Networks out of Dallas. Salem sold 105.1 to Grace Broadcasting, due to 105.1 can't be moved any closer to Nashville, from what I understand.

Grace has plans on moving the FM signal licensed to Lobelville to some small town near your neck of the woods to get into the Nashville Market. Most of you may know this by now. I don't see how these "rim shooters" make any money moving near a metro market with a 3,000 watt signal that doesn't cover the whole 8 county metro.

I can hear 104.9 in the car, but not in the house. Salem also owns 93.7 and 94.1, using their "Fish" Format, with lite contemporary christian hits. I like the music, but it confuses the listener to have to go between 93.7 and 94.1, if your traveling around Davidson County or the surrounding areas.
 
D Dean said:
[I'll now go back to silence.

Scott, Don't go back to silence. We need you. Now that you and Buddy have reconciled. (Maybe a slightly shorter post, but- JUST KIDDING.)

Buddy Sadler is a good man, and one of my idols, since I was a little kid. We have talked in private in emails and his advice to me is just almost the same words my deceased dad would tell me. It's been only two years since my dad passed away and I miss him very much. WMRO wouldn't be on the air in Gallatin if it wasn't for my dad, Bill Bailey. I loved my dad very much, even if we didn't see eye to eye at times. But what kid didn't see eye to eye with their parents at times.

Buddy is like talking to my dad. He believes in the same morals as my dad, and I have 101% for him. Buddy only posted what he did because he cared about me. He knew the situation; my doctor had me on some medication that was making me think things that were not true. I'm off that medication now and on the right meds. I am disabled, but my radio station gives the the strength to get up every day and live a good life.

The only thing I'm disappointed about right now (which is a stupid thing) is what is going on with CSI-Miami on Monday Nights. Adam Rodriguez that played the role of Eric Delko is off the show, being replaced by Eddie Cibrian, a.k.a. Jesse Cardoza. I loved watching Eric, he was great! David Caruso (who plays Horatio Caine) is my #1 hero of the show. I don't care too much about the CSI-NY or Vegas, but I do watch them. Now, I'm begging my wife to let me buy a new HD TV.

Horatio Caine is #1......GO HORATIO!
 
scottwmro said:
You are correct. Solid Gospel is on 104.9, with the station and the network owned by the Salem Radio Networks out of Dallas. Salem sold 105.1 to Grace Broadcasting, due to 105.1 can't be moved any closer to Nashville, from what I understand.
Grace has plans on moving the FM signal licensed to Lobelville to some small town near your neck of the woods to get into the Nashville Market. Most of you may know this by now. I don't see how these "rim shooters" make any money moving near a metro market with a 3,000 watt signal that doesn't cover the whole 8 county metro.
I can hear 104.9 in the car, but not in the house. Salem also owns 93.7 and 94.1, using their "Fish" Format, with lite contemporary christian hits. I like the music, but it confuses the listener to have to go between 93.7 and 94.1, if your traveling around Davidson County or the surrounding areas.
I remember 105.1 making the claim that they could be heard "from Nashville to 50 miles west of the Tennessee River." I don't know why they didn't just go ahead and say, "from Nashville to Jackson." At any rate, their signal is no good here in Nashville. I can barely pick them up out here in Pegram. Looking forward to hearing what Grace has planned for that 94.5 frequency.

Apparently, FISH is just assuming that everyone still uses radios with analog dials, which means if you tune in close to 94 FM, you'll find them!
 
scottwmro said:
Grace has plans on moving the FM signal licensed to Lobelville to some small town near your neck of the woods to get into the Nashville Market. Most of you may know this by now. I don't see how these "rim shooters" make any money moving near a metro market with a 3,000 watt signal that doesn't cover the whole 8 county metro.

Bellevue. Tower seems to be just barely inside Davidson County and directly adjacent to I-40. If approved, it goes from class C2 to class A with 5.1kw @ 109m.

I might imagine it'll have trouble with Sumner and Wilson Counties but it'll probably do just fine in Metro, Williamson, and Cheatham.

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1314932.html
 
It seems that I can get 93.7 better than 94.1. I think I'm closer to the 94.1 site than the 93.7 site. It's a shame that 93.7 can't be move more towards the center of Davidson County. I don't really know who 93.7 is protecting, but they seem to have a good, steady, audience with good music. We'll in a few weeks they will be moving to the Christmas Music, along with Mix 92.9. I guess the reason I'm not a fan of Christmas music is my opinion that Christmas has become too commercialized and the true meaning of Christmas is not promoted any more. Gift giving is o.k., but my thoughts are Christmas is to be with family and friends, make up with you enemies, remember the loved ones we have that have passed on, and they are in a better world than we are here!
Sorry folks, I'm didn't mean to start to preach here.
 
scottwmro said:
It seems that I can get 93.7 better than 94.1. I think I'm closer to the 94.1 site than the 93.7 site. It's a shame that 93.7 can't be move more towards the center of Davidson County. I don't really know who 93.7 is protecting, but they seem to have a good, steady, audience with good music. We'll in a few weeks they will be moving to the Christmas Music, along with Mix 92.9. I guess the reason I'm not a fan of Christmas music is my opinion that Christmas has become too commercialized and the true meaning of Christmas is not promoted any more. Gift giving is o.k., but my thoughts are Christmas is to be with family and friends, make up with you enemies, remember the loved ones we have that have passed on, and they are in a better world than we are here!
Sorry folks, I'm didn't mean to start to preach here.


Scott,

If you add 10.6 and 10.8 to 93.7, it tells you who they protect, but looks like 94.1, could be 2 miles SE of downtown but they have to protect 93.7, they would have to move 93.7 half a mile west and cut power to 94.1 to do that.
 
I don't really know who 93.7 is protecting

I think the Baxter (Cookeville) 93.7 is the "protectee"
 
romer979fm said:
I don't really know who 93.7 is protecting

I think the Baxter (Cookeville) 93.7 is the "protectee"


I don't know either; I never have looked at it. All I know is Jim Turvaville; Chief Engineer at WAY-FM told me one time several years ago that 94.1 could move in a bit closer and go up to 50 KW. Now that I'm thinking about it, I think that he told me that 94.1 was protecting 94.3, WEGI-FM. I don't keep up with who's protecting who on FM, so I really don't know. I didn't know there was a 93.7 licensed to Baxter.
 
I didn't know there was a 93.7 licensed to Baxter baxter is a crossroads with a school(upperman high), a market, and a lumberyard..about five miles west of cookeville highway 70N. the station is located in cookeville..there is a downtown baxter just a couple of miles south of the crossroads..looks like an old western town you see in the movies..storefronts down one side facing a rr track. most of my family grew up around there..as late as 1960 you could see horse drawn wagons tied up outside the stores there. cookeville has seven or eight stations there..biggest deal there is tenn tech..one of the best technical schools in the country..yet you can go 10 miles out of town and see outhouses in the back yards..i'm fortunate to be able to drive through this scenic panarama every day....
 
94.1 has always been a joke, as far as I'm concerned. Even when I lived in the old Harding Mall area, I could pick up 93.7 better than I could ever receive 94.1. And good thing, too! Back then, 93.7 was the Phoenix (wish that Phoenix would rise from the ashes!), while 94.1 was nothing more than a useless repeater for Lightning 100. And I received them at 100.1 better than I ever got them on 94.1.
 
It's after 11 PM on a Sunday Night, I couldn’t sleep, so I got out my Sony Pocket Radio, and started scanning the FM dial, without the antenna all the way up. This is just my opinion only; all these signals from 88.1 up to 107.9, crashing together, it sounds like you’re tuned to a Local "Class C" (old Class IV) AM Channel at night.

Gee, the FM band is such a mess here, and the FCC wants to open a window for more LPFM's to go on? This is not going to work. Then, I hear a rumor a window will open for AM stations to apply for translators. How in the world is this going to work? Maybe it's just my radio, but the FM band in Nashville is full of junk and there is too much "Classic Rock" here, like 97.1, a waste of electricity. Does it have listeners?

I don't understand why Cumulus changed from ESPN Sports to Hot AC. Makes no sense since they are so close on the dial to "The River". If Cumulus was smart, they would have taken 106.7 to Classic Hit/Oldies that the 40+ crowd would love, since this audience has been abandon for over 3 years or so by the Nashville FM stations.

I'm not knocking WVCP, I'm proud of what they are doing, catering to a displaced audience, but WVCP-FM, 88.5 is licensed as a non-commercial/educational station to teach students about radio, not to compete with the commercial FM stations. Either I'm just stupid by making these comments, but Nashville's FM dial is a complete mess, and somebody, a consultant with some sense, needs to come in and fix it, and make one of these groups cater do a displace audience that still has buying power, and don't listen to some 22 year old kid at a ad agency that knows nothing about radio and people!

I looked at some of the other markets our size, and they have a 60's, 70’s and early 80's Classic Hits/Oldies station on FM. Why not here? There is too much Classic Rock on in this market as well. I was driving to Paducah last Thursday and I flipped it over to 1480 WHVO, in Hopkinsville. They were airing my station's old satellite format,"Kool Gold" (was the oldies channel) and now WHVO-AM has an FM Translator that covers the city well.

Tell me, am I right or wrong or what? Nashville's FM Stations are in a mess, format wise, and all these "move ins" and translators are making nothing but noise. Are consultants thinking we are stupid county hicks and we will listen to anything? For a "so called" country station, just in my opinion, 95.5, "The Wolf" sounds terrible. The music selections were better and the jocks were better when it was "Nashville 95.5".

Pardon me folks, this is just the way I'm hearing it, and it's all a mess from 92.1 to 107.9. If I’m wrong folks, just tell me.
 
First off before the FCC needs to allow more stations, they need to extend the FM band where we had TV stations.

Yes the radio band is way to crowded. Interference is going to hurt profits on stations, when certain advertisers can't get the station they use to advertise with.
 
scottwmro said:
Gee, the FM band is such a mess here, and the FCC wants to open a window for more LPFM's to go on? This is not going to work. Then, I hear a rumor a window will open for AM stations to apply for translators. How in the world is this going to work? Maybe it's just my radio, but the FM band in Nashville is full of junk and there is too much "Classic Rock" here, like 97.1, a waste of electricity. Does it have listeners?

The FCC has indeed agreed to allow AM stations to have translators, but the translators must already exist. They won't be able to create any *new* translators to relay AMs. (however, there are a LOT of unimplemented translator permits out there which may be used)

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There are some TV stations still operating in the 54-88MHz spectrum. WTVF channel 5 for one. While WTVF has had serious problems with in-city coverage on that frequency, the frequency is working VERY WELL in rural areas and I don't think they're going to voluntarily give it up.

The FCC has also just run a filing window for new LPTVs, and quite a few applications have been filed for channels 2-6. Those channels may not work that well, but with spectrum being scarce, you go where you think you can get a permit...

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I wonder if 94.1 could get an upgrade now that 94.3 has moved to Oak Grove? When 94.1 went on the air, 94.3 was WDBL-FM on the west side of Springfield. When it became WEGI, the city-of-license changed to Oak Grove, Kentucky and the transmitter moved to the KY/TN state line about a block east of Fort Campbell Boulevard. (I think if a tower climber took a baseball up with him, he could throw it into Tennessee. If he had pitching experience he could probably get it onto military territory.)

The move puts at least a few more miles between 94.1 and 94.3. On the other hand, I suppose the Smyrna Airport and BNA put some pretty serious limits on where you could put an antenna in that neck of the woods.
 
The low end of the FM dial (88 to 92) is actually the most crowded of all! Someone just a few miles from me could probably pick up an entirely different set of stations in the educational/non-commercial band from what I can receive here. Most of these stations have a realistic "reach" of just a few short miles before you start running into interference from another station on an adjacent frequency.

And I thought 106.7 was more of a straight-up CHR station than hot AC. If they are hot AC, they are a little too "hot" for me! The occasional Kelly Clarkson song is not enough to make it hot AC. There is still a void for true hot AC here with V-102.5 gone. But none of this matters. In a year or so, Cumulus will be forced to change 106.7 yet again when "I-106" runs off the road!
 
Firepoint, "Adult CHR" is the way I heard it labelled. (All I know is what someone tells me.)
 
Journeyman said:
scottwmro said:
If Cumulus was smart

I'll let it slide this time but NEVER say anytrhing that dumb again!


If Randy had facilities again, we could watch him burn holes in the radio stations again because many of them are weak.

Over the last 5 years Cumulus started to come to many markets where Randy once occupied big stations, don't see Cumulus taking an AM station from near last to number 1 station no where.
 
I dont seem to have the "facilities" to remember who the heck "Randy" is...can you refresh my limited memory Signalid?
And most anyone can beat Crumulus. Especially those who have never heard of the word radio. One great example of
stupidity is 97-1 and it's horrible and predictable weekly "tweaking". It's gonna end up being all overplayed redneck classic
hits played sixty five trillion songs or more instead of smart songs with an edge. oh never mind...i censored myself after
that sentence...
 
Tibbs2 said:
I dont seem to have the "facilities" to remember who the heck "Randy" is...can you refresh my limited memory Signalid?
And most anyone can beat Crumulus. Especially those who have never heard of the word radio. One great example of
stupidity is 97-1 and it's horrible and predictable weekly "tweaking". It's gonna end up being all overplayed redneck classic
hits played sixty five trillion songs or more instead of smart songs with an edge. oh never mind...i censored myself after
that sentence...

He operated Jacor, before CC bought them.

Before CC bought them there was a saying out if you can't beat them you buy them up.
 
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