Is your network affiliated outlet's 11/10PM newscast ready to expand to a hour?

[JeeperOne]

Re: Is your network affiliated outlet's 11/10PM newscast ready to expand to a ho

I thought KCNC was the NBC affiliate in Denver
before KUSA.

It was. But KCNC was an NBC O&O at the time it was sold to CBS.

Would it have been CBS that had
the problem with KMGH over the scheduling of
Letterman?

No because for the short time they had Letterman, he was just getting himself established in the earlier timeslot & CBS was still struggling to find a suitable host once Pat Sajak's late night show was cancelled.

Now, there is NO WAY that Letterman would be delayed. NBC is struggling in the 11:35 ET/PT/10:35 CT/MT timeslot & CBS (And all of their affiliates) knows it. For CBS affiliates to delay Letterman would be sheer suicide. THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. Do you honestly think they're going to squander this GOLDEN opportunity to finally overtake NBC?? I should think not.

As for ABC, they're better off doing their own thing. They have Nightline (Which BTW would be very good counter-programming against SNL & MAD Magazine if ABC had the guts to do it IMO) & JKL. They don't need anything else. FOX is better off leaving the Mon-Fri late nights to its affiliates as they always have since Joan Rivers left as they can do a better job than the network itself can (Then again, they could conceivably repeat Best Damn.... and have an edition of Final Score produced for the FOX network by FSN if they really wanted to go that route too. But that's just a thought).

Anyhow.....Just my opinion.....

Cheers

 

[Garrett]

Re: Is your network affiliated outlet's 11/10PM newscast ready to expand to a ho

I recall that in the '70s WCCO Minneapolis-St. Paul
tried a 45-minute newscast (10-10:45 CT) and was
hard-put to fill that time every night; they abandoned
it long before becoming a CBS o&o.

I'm not sure viewers in the Eastern time zone would
want to watch news until midnight, but you never know.

You know, we lived there when I was in the 1st grade right about that time, and i don't remember that. I only remember 11, 5 and 9 playing musical affiliates, with 11 and 5 winning that battle (although I think 5 got the short end of the stick with ABC).

Sorry for going off topic...

 

[DToTheJ]

There were a few cases of call letters changing when UPN and The WB shut down, and The CW and MyNetworkTV were launched. Again in Detroit, WDWB changed to WMYD. It seems to me this also happened with the CW affiliates in Pittsburgh and the Bay Area.

Call letter changes tend to be more heavily associated with ownership changes, and in the case of WGPR/WWJ there was an ownership change involved as the station became a CBS O&O.

Meanwhile, virtually every single PAX station that changed to ION still retains their call letters including "PX"...

 

[bpatrick]

Re: Is your network affiliated outlet's 11/10PM newscast ready to expand to a ho

I recall that in the '70s WCCO Minneapolis-St. Paul
tried a 45-minute newscast (10-10:45 CT) and was
hard-put to fill that time every night; they abandoned
it long before becoming a CBS o&o.

I'm not sure viewers in the Eastern time zone would
want to watch news until midnight, but you never know.

You know, we lived there when I was in the 1st grade right about that time, and i don't remember that. I only remember 11, 5 and 9 playing musical affiliates, with 11 and 5 winning that battle (although I think 5 got the short end of the stick with ABC).




Sorry for going off topic...

WCCO's experiment was in the early '70s; it was when Merv was doing a late-night show on CBS, and WCCO had special dispensation from the network fo start him at 10:45.

I'll go off-topic here too and agree that KSTP probably did get the short end of the stick with ABC; I don't think it's been nearly as strong with ABC as it was with NBC. In fact, I might argue that KARE/11 was the ultimate big winner in that switch, since it took about five years for the former independent to reach parity (at least in primetime and 10 PM) with 4 and 5, and that's a pretty quick time frame.

 

[JackBauer112]

Re: KOVR

That reminds me, will KOVR now actually be airing an hour and 35 minutes of news, as opposed to just one hour?

It's more like 10 minutes of "here's what happened today" news, 25 minutes of commercials/promos/"stay tuned" reminders, 6 minutes of weather, 4 minutes of sports, and 15 minutes of infotaining, consumer-ish, healthcare-ish, what-are-they-saying-on-twitter drivel that has passed for "news" for the past decade or so.

Basically the late afternoon 4PM-ish hourlong news that most cities have, only broadcast at 10PM while NBC shows Jay and ABC shows scripted programming.

Dave starts at 11PM.

From 1995 until 2006, KOVR aired their news up to 11:05 PM, but after CBS bought the station from Sinclair in 2005, they adopted the current 11 PM end time but also around that time, August 2006, KOVR expanded their current shift to Saturdays too to conform with the scheduling. But afterwards, it's where it currently stands

KOVR Sacramento is a special case. Even though they're on Pacific time, CBS has allowed them to run prime time programming from 7:00 to 10:00 to counter-program the competing NBC and ABC stations. This allows KOVR to run a full hour of news at 10:00, then start Letterman at 11:00 when the other 2 affiliates are running local news.

As far as I know, KOVR is the only station in the nation that's allowed to do this, and they've been doing it for more than a decade. KPIX San Francisco tried it in the 90s, but CBS pulled the plug on it after a few years.

I haven't been in Hawaii since the 1980s, but last time I was there, they time-shifted everything, and late news started at 9:30 on one affiliate, and 10:00 for the other 2. So Hawaii is also a special case.

When KOVR was an ABC affiliate, they had their news in the original platform like most affiliates, burg when they swapped with KXTV (ABC/CBS), they adapted this current format of 7-10 PM. That's why it worked well with the station and that's the reason they are keeping it this way.