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It makes me sad to see what has happened to louisville radio since 1996

hotpatrick2004

hotpatrick2004

I say that year because that is when clinton signed the 1996 telecommunications act. When clear channel went on a buying spree. and yes all markets have suffered but louisville is gotten really bad.

Look at what clear channel has done to whas and wamz and the fox. They have replaced local talent with either syndicated programming or voicetracking. We have no commercial alt stations where as in the 90s we had Q2 105.9 and she 93.1 and we also had a good talk station 790 wwky. A mix of conservative and liberal programming. and radio one coming in here well they were clueless about radio look at what they did to wlrs they killed it by moving it to 105.1 and just ruined the format and they hired very green people whom have gotten no better.

I was very happy to see cox go up against wamz hope they have success with that! ;D

Louie just is a snoozefest!!!

They killed hot 104 replaced it with a classic country format that they gave no chance for success to.And then wasted it with lrs simulcast.WTF

On on side note i think sarah jordan has done well on djx. She was not even born when djx was born in 1985 lol

On a positive note we do have some excellent talent in this town. Terry meiners(whas),ben and kelly(wdjx).mike shannon(Wdjx),james bickers(wfpk) duke(formerly lrs qmf now wfpk)lambert and lindsey(wxma)I do like ben and kelly better personally.

Just felt like ranting

Have a wonderful day guys and gals and as always opinions are welcome

HOTPATRICK OUT
 
Dude!

Seriously, you need to get some help! Buddy Get a life! I have only been in this business about 6 years, but have been a fan of radio in this town for years. But come on, This business is just that a business, people are making decisions to try to make sure checks cash and investors are happy.

You're starting to sound like the old guys who I used to work with at WAVE 3 - always talking about the GLORY YEARS.

On a really nice day like today all you can think of to do is write on this board about how things were 12 years ago. Let go man.
Start living in the present and I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT ONLY RADIO!
 
Dude get serious i wrote it for fun get a grip. But if you read most people posts they agree with me radio was alot better years ago then what it is now. And i did say some good things about louisville radio but what i said is true it is by far worse in this town then what it used to be but i still enjoy djx and kiss and wfpk and certain things on the fox.

Actually i did a lot of things today this just happened to be one of them. i worked all day i wrote this before i went to work if you want to see some real anger go to zogby.com discussion boards where we discuss george w bush now theres some real anger about things.
 
Know-It-All, surely you don't remember....

*When PD's and MD's had real and absolute authority over their station's playlist, instead of being glorified music clerks just waiting for the next download from the corporate music research geeks?

*When skilled engineers were on every station's staff, and stations sounded right all the time. Today, anyone with a permit (not even a radiotelephone license... I remember what it took to get a First Class license and the clout it had) can putz around in the cavity of a transmitter, mess with the processor or crank the antenna phasor dials with NO idea of what they're doing. I still post my original "first ticket" certificate proudly.

*When, as an announcer, you had to be aware of the tastes of the market and develop an individual style and personality, rather than just be able to read that card in front of you?

*When promotions were imaginative, varied, and effective?

*When stations took their public affairs and issues ascertainment efforts seriously?

*When "localism" was the norm, rather than a buzzword expected to pop up in your license renewal applications while you have little or no intent to apply the concept (hear me, Clear Channel and Salem)?

Give me yesterday's broadcasting values with today's technology anytime. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss past experiences and history if I were you. Those guys at WAVE-TV and other experienced heads can give you some valuable insight into the business if you would only listen-and you'd see the relevance to today's (and the future's) broadcasting environment. I'm 54 with 30+ years in TV and radio, and I'm still learning every day!
 
King Bee - This may sound crazy, but I agree with you!

However, if you look at the first post it DID NOT Cover any of the things you just mentioned. It was a blind indictment of everything that is happening now and how great the "GOOD OLD DAYS" were!

I remember growing up listening to CRAPPY JOCKS, bad playlists, and stupid stations long before now (anyone want to discuss what WFPK sounded like in the late 80's, nothing like today (station of the year). Regardless of Clinton's work on the ability to own multiple stations, change was coming to radio. Again, I wasn't in the biz back then but change is always happening and radio was going to change with or without the rules changing.

Just don't sweat this stuff...try to make radio good today - with short staffs and syndicated shows. I have made no bones about it, I am a board op, but I care about my responsibilites when my talent is on the air and try to make it sound good everytime we're on! And like you King Bee I am still learning everyday!
 
I'm cool with all that, Know It All! Do what you do the best you can do and you'll be OK. And a good board operator is worth their weight in gold...have you ever heard a truly botched sporting event or remote? And who wants a panicky board op trying to monitor 3 or 4 stations when weather warnings begin popping fast at 3 am?

Competent board ops rate high in my book and deserve better compensation!
 
Hey know it all i think it is great to see someone that has such a passion for what they are doing and i wish you well. Don't mean to throw a wet blanket on your passion for radio it is just how i feel about this market.
 
I'll agree that radio isn't what it once was. In some ways it's worse. In other ways it's better.

Remember when...

* Analog phone loops were commonly used for STLs? Remember the crappy noise floor, bad frequency response, and phasing problems because the left channel circuit took a path that was several blocks longer than the right channel?

* Stations played records live on air? Maybe with a penny on the tonearm to weight it down?

* Stations recorded the vinyl records onto audio carts?

* Tape machines that had dirty heads or needed to be demagnetized?

* Tape machine that were out of alignment?

* Angry jocks running a bulk eraser down the cart wall?

* On air boards had rotary step attenuators for pots that turned up the volume in 2 DB increments? (Unless they were dirty, then they were worse!)

* Every full time jock had to work 6 days a week? (Mon-Fri plus one weekend shift.)

* Part timers were put on the air because there wasn't anybody else?

Yes there have been lots of changes, and yes the industry is in decline. But in many ways it's better than it used to be. Thanks to voice tracking, most everyone works 5 days a week, and you never hear a "bad jock" anymore. At least not like we did back then. (I seriously considered driving my car off the Kennedy Bridge more than once.)

Yeah, I'm a big fan of voice tracking. From 10pm to 5AM and on weekends. Used that way, it makes radio better.
 
You said....

"* Part timers were put on the air because there wasn't anybody else?

Yes there have been lots of changes, and yes the industry is in decline. But in many ways it's better than it used to be. Thanks to voice tracking, most everyone works 5 days a week, and you never hear a "bad jock" anymore. At least not like we did back then. (I seriously considered driving my car off the Kennedy Bridge more than once.)

Yeah, I'm a big fan of voice tracking. From 10pm to 5AM and on weekends. Used that way, it makes radio better."

I know it works wonderful on paper but what about the future of our business? Remember, Terry Meiners started out as a part timer at WAKY and I'm sure he was far from what he is today.
 
When's the last time you heard anyone in radio use the term "tails out?" How much easier and fun is production these days? On another note, I'm a little sensitive to this talk about part timers. I've been one here in Louisville since 1990, lol. It used to be a nice supplement to my income before voice tracking shrank my hours by 80%, lol. I used to say I'd do it for free. Now I am :)
 
Craven707 said:
When's the last time you heard anyone in radio use the term "tails out?" How much easier and fun is production these days? On another note, I'm a little sensitive to this talk about part timers. I've been one here in Louisville since 1990, lol. It used to be a nice supplement to my income before voice tracking shrank my hours by 80%, lol. I used to say I'd do it for free. Now I am :)
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I agree, the technology is better. Instead of cleaning and demagnetization tape heads today you reboot and defrag hard drives. Considering how wave editors have made it easier you have to have respect for those who could create on a reel to reel.

Cart machines won't be missed. The carts themselves are missed since they made great projectiles towards anyone who walks in when the On-Air is on. Never did it in real life but considered it a few times.

Then there was the A/E annoying job duty of picking up and leaving dubs at competing stations. As long as we're waxing poetic, let me add this story regarding dub exchanges. For many years WLXG/WCOZ later Kiss were prohibited from picking up dubs from WVLK. Ralph Hacker caught one of their A/E returning a sales call on our lobby phone. The feud escalated when a COZy A/E got a client on the air over us and used a spec spot WVLK produced. Ralph then ordered every tape that leaves the building, even ones we didn't produce, have a label that included a copyright as well as an announcement on the head of the tape dub. The business was sent a bill for production time.

There's more to the feud but I'm already way off topic, yes radio seemed to be better before consolation.
 
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