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oldies76 said:
Based on what numbers?? Your ball.
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What site are we talking about? The ones you've posted don't register on any web traffic meters, so that tells me it's about ten people. Even 100 would show up. Just having access to the world doesn't mean anyone knows about it.
 
I don't know what site Oldies76 is referring to but here's some real listening data through Shoutcast.com for the moment: http://65.49.77.146:8012/index.html

Stream is also available on Tunein.com and Streamlicensing.com and Pronetlicensing.com and www.internet-radio.com. That's all the stream sites I know of right off the top of my head. But that's why you'll get listeners tuning in from around the world.
 
TheBigA said:
What site are we talking about? The ones you've posted don't register on any web traffic meters, so that tells me it's about ten people. Even 100 would show up. Just having access to the world doesn't mean anyone knows about it.
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I think you meant to respond to Music Lover's post. I'm not on any site.
 
OK, so here's what it says about users:

Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 128 kbps with 12 of 50 listeners (12 unique)
Listener Peak: 50
 
DavidEduardo said:


That is pretty much what is already being done with stations in Tampa, Miami and San Diego. It took a while in each case to get the station focused on more under-55 listeners, but all are working nicely now. There is a new one in Phoenix on a less than perfect signal and it is going up impressively in the ratings.
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Thank you. It's nice to know I'm on the right track. Hopefully, other stations will join soon.
 
TheBigA said:
OK, so here's what it says about users:

Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 128 kbps with 12 of 50 listeners (12 unique)
Listener Peak: 50
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In this case, doesn't the Listener Peak number mean the maximum streams that can be connected?
 
Here's some more that are formatted similarly and the listener stats via Shoutcast.

http://50.7.77.114:9042/index.html
Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 128 kbps with 32 of 100 listeners (32 unique)
Listener Peak: 63

http://74.124.12.137:8827/index.html
Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 128 kbps with 3 of 200 listeners (3 unique)
Listener Peak: 29

http://199.189.111.28:8253/index.html
Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 128 kbps with 30 of 50 listeners (25 unique)
Listener Peak: 50

http://s4.streammonster.com:8471/index.html
Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 128 kbps with 2 of 100 listeners (2 unique)
Listener Peak: 11

http://50.7.70.66:8723/played.html
Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 128 kbps with 27 of 330 listeners (27 unique)
Listener Peak: 330

Here is an explanation of the page: http://support.neostreams.info/audi...reams/explanation-of-the-shoutcast-dnas-page/

Oldies76 is exaggerating by his/her thousands number but judging by the listener peaks, it's definitely been more than Big A's 10.
 
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I hate to break it to you, but those are awful numbers, especially if it's available worldwide.

In the radio world, we deal in millions. Millions of hits, millions of streams, millions of listeners. If we don't reach the "M" word, the advertisers don't care. If the advertisers don't care, then we don't have any money. And you know what that means.

Before you criticize us for what we do, just compare the numbers we get to those numbers, and try to understand that what we do is NOT a hobby.
 
Music Lover said:
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Oldies76 is exaggerating by his/her thousands number but judging by the listener peaks, it's definitely been more than Big A's 10.
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To put this in perspective, a noted soft AC, WDUV in Tampa, averages 18,000 "consurrent" listeners. AC WLTW in New York averages around 88,000 concurrent listeners (although it increased to 223,000 in the Christmas week).

All your streams combined don't have 100 concurrent listeners world wide.
 
These streams are available on Tunein.com and Streamlicensing.com and Pronetlicensing.com and www.internet-radio.com and many other similar streaming sites. That's how a listener from outside the US can tune in.
 
Here's Shoutcast stats for an OTA more uptempo AC near my neck of the woods.

http://sc1.abacast.com:8139/index.html
Server Status: Server is currently up and public.
Stream Status: Stream is up at 32 kbps with 35 of 100 listeners (32 unique)
Listener Peak: 86
 
I don't care. I'm not in the business of reaching dozens of listeners. I can do that by opening my windows and playing my home system loud.
 
When I was in college in the late 90's, the OTA soft AC's I listened to would mix them just like the examples on the previous page. I remember they would play Backstreet Boys alongside The Supremes, The Carpenters, Enya and Kenny G. I don't remember them dropping anything to appeal to advertising to specific demographics until the late 00's, when they suddenly became more uptempo. I very much feel that consolidation and deregulation is to blame.
 
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Music Lover said:
I very much feel that consolidation and deregulation is to blame.
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You can feel any way you want, but what changed is popular taste. Demographic radio began in the 70s with the explosion of FM. However, there were some researchers who were doing it in the 60s. Musical taste is constantly changing. No one knows that more than the artists themselves. Artists who were once playing arenas now play small clubs or not at all. Kenny G was once a big star, and now he's yesterday's news. He gets more attention playing golf than playing his alto sax. Consolidation and deregulation didn't change people's taste in music. It just did. And it's our job to follow those trends. Radio was doing this long before consolidation and deregulation. Elvis and Beach Boy fans were pretty angry when radio stopped playing their favorites in the 60s and replaced them with The Beatles and other British stars. But that's what happened. Not because of consolidation or deregulation, but because musical taste changed.
 
The changeover was between 2005 and 2008. I very highly doubt tastes change that quickly.
 
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