Re: Oh, stop trying, Sam.
> Well clearly the poster is all knowing and omnipotent.
> He can hear clocks ticking through corporate walls.
And clearly the other poster doesn't retain information from any posts that disagree with his stated opinion about Indie.
I am not the only person who has said Indie will not be a long-term format on 103.1, Sam, but I am the only one who challenges you every time you try to say otherwise.
> If I had said that, a moderator would tell me, "hearing
> clocks ticking isn't exactly factual statistical data. Let's
> stick the the facts."
No, I know the difference between a metaphor and posting rumors or speculation. If it were the latter, I would be talking about "what I heard Entravision is going to do" or some such. Your statement proves that you are so focused on Indie being "a success" that you are blinded to any reality, and will even attempt to misdirect the intent of another post to maintain the appearance of your point of view's credibility.
Give up, Sam. You are a lone voice in the wilderness. Indie will last as long as Entravision continues to keep it on the air without making any money on it. As soon as they have something else that will show a better bottom line, *poof* goes the Indie.
> And for some reason, though the 103.1 frequency is doomed
> and will never make any money or ratings for any format, a
> classical station can do better there than it can on a full
> market signal where it already is struggling?
Now you prove how narrow your focus is. You completely missed the point of the discussion. Let me summarize, without using any big words that would confuse you:
1. With the Oldies format on the decline nationwide, and Infinity flipping its Oldies stations to other formats, KRTH appears to be in danger of going away.
2. There is a consensus that Saul Levine might be tempted to flip 105.1 to Oldies if KRTH abandoned the format, if he believed he could make money doing so.
2a. Saul has sold stations off in recent years to keep KMZT running. There will come a point where either he has to give up Classical on 105.1 or sell it.
3. If Classical was to leave 105.1, the next question is what station the format might be able to move to.
4. The 103.1s, even with their signal deficiencies, have strong signals in some of the more upscale areas of the market (Southern OC, Westside) and could be candidates.
4a. Even though a Classical format would get lower ratings than the present Alternative format, there would be sufficient "prestige" ad buys to make the format profitable on those signals, because of the demographics of the specific areas where they have a good signal.
It is that last point which answers your question. We are talking about a scenario where the market is changed dramatically.
> Maybe the clock needs new batteries.
And maybe you need new glasses.
Now, here is a fresh thought that fits into the discussion: If Infinity does decide to flip 101.1, what do they flip to? If I were them, I'd be looking into the possibility of luring Jonesy and the rest of the Indie format over to KRTH, add an airstaff, and see what it does on a better signal.
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