An attempt to express my thoughts in a clear manner
One final attempt at trying to express what I said, hopefully in a clearer manner.
Radio Elizabeth said:
> Just because this is the approach a station opts for, that
> does NOT mean that station is simply attempting to get a
> financial goal met.
>
You didn't read my words very carefully, I said:
>>This could apply to radio too. I agree that a seeker format in a radio station is a good idea, but then somehow IF YOUR STATION'S MISSION is to bring these seekers to Christ, there needs to be some programming at your station that would also do that to help the seeker make the next step, etc. However,
IF YOUR MISSION is simply to have lots of listeners who financially support your station then it really doesn't matter. Then whatever will pull them in will do. IT'S NOT SINFUL to just be running a business and not having an actual ministry to save folks, so please don't take my words to imply that.>>
I PERSONALLY BELIEVE that a Christian radio station should be a ministry first that happens to be a business, second, BUT IT'S NOT a Sin IF that isn't the vision you and your station has. Just because I don't see it YOUR way doesn't make me wrong any more than it makes you wrong because you don't see it my way. We just don't agree.
Radio Elizabeth said:
> Regarding if ministry ought to come before business. That is
> a vague discussion.
That's not a vague discussion. If you are called to do that (run your business as a ministry first then second as a business) you'll have the leading of the Holy Spirit and he will also make sure the financial part works. However, if the Holy Spirit hasn't directed you to run your radio station that way and you do it on your own, you probably are going to have a train wreck. Hearing and following what the Lord has called you to do is the first most important step in running any business or ministry, be it radio or anything else. My guess is we both can agree on that.
Radio Elizabeth said:
> Regarding going deeper...and "graduating" to the meaty
> course...Salvation & Conviction are jobs for the Holy
> Spirit. It doesn't matter how many passages of scripture are
> quoted, prayers said out loud, hymns, choruses, or songs are
> sung...GOD pursues, woos, wins souls, and pierces hearts.
There are a number of the so called seeker churches where folks have been seekers for over 10 years still seeking. That doesn't sound like a very effective ministry. IF YOUR GOAL IS TO BRING PEOPLE TO CHRIST. Obviously the Pastor and Elders should be listening to the Holy Spirit, but if you have a church where after 10 years of ministry you have 3/4's of your congregation that are still seekers, there's a possibility that something is wrong. Maybe you didn't follow what the Holy Spirit directed you to do. Obviously, IF THAT IS WHAT THE HOLY SPIRIT TOLD YOU TO DO, then you better keep doing it. God always has a plan. However, if a church had a situation where 3/4's of the people after ten years are still seekers and none are becoming believers I'd have to question whether or not that ministry is listening to the Holy Spirit.
I was saved at a church that was very evangelistic. The pastor was an ole "tent preacher". His sermons were all salvation messages. Once I got saved, I found myself wanting a deeper walk. I was saved, there must be more. Eventually I left that church to find a church that had meat. However, if I had stayed a seeker and not made that decision for Christ I'd still be sitting in that church listening to those same salvation sermons. It was a good church to get saved in, but it wasn't his ministry calling to feed the flock. He was an evangelist and a good one. My problem with the seeker type churches Elizabeth is they don't seem to ever bring the seeker to Christ as Lord. These churches don't have altar calls, etc. They don't ask the people to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. If they are still seekers when they die, they are still lost. They never had accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior. You probably are younger than I and may not have ever lost someone in death knowing they didn't know the Lord. I simply think it is wrong (that's my opinion which I'm entitled to) for a church to allow folks to play churchiantity and never challenge them to accept Christ.
Yes, you can question and belittle my concerns, but I'd guess people like Billy Graham too would question the effectiveness of such a ministry. To me that's the bottom line. Listen to a Billy Graham sermon on Trinity Broadcasting. They air Classic Billy Graham Crusades. Reverend Graham is powerful and effective and is never wishy washy. But as I said earlier, if that is not YOUR or YOUR station's vision, that's fine, just don't expect me to be one of your listeners or donors. I wish you well with your station and show, we just don't see it the same way.
It's not silly to debate the issue as this is a radio board and a religious radio board at that. Just because you and I don't agree doesn't mean others won't want to weigh in with their perspective which may differ from mine or your point of view. We both may learn a new insight by someone else who hasn't yet posted. I welcome their comments.
I'm sorry that you find my comments so abrasive, that isn't my intention. I'm simply expressing my views the best way I know how. Be blessed Radio Elizabeth and may the Lord use your broadcasting gifts for his glory
