xmusicmatt said:
no...you didn't say "all"...just "most". sure sounded to me like you were stating that most of the big groups
don't even have one engineer per market.
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K-Love coming to WRQQ 97.1 Belle Meade 7/16/2012
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no...you didn't say "all"...just "most". sure sounded to me like you were stating that most of the big groups
don't even have one engineer per market.
Is there any truth to the rumor that some of the religious broadcasters get a "waiver" that allows them not to have a staffed "local" control point (just EAS and satellite dish at the transmitter site) claiming "financial" hardship while raising millions of dollars on air?
TheBigA said:
I get that. As the son of a preacher, I understand the whole "Mission" thing. What I DON'T understand is how that's any different than any other business. Every place of business has a creed or mission statement as to why they do what they do. If not, they atleast have a corporate vision for success. They (EMF) are in it for the money to some degree and there is no way to convince me otherwise. Somebody high up at EMF, I'm sure, drives a BMW of Mercedes because of the money they make off of the business, not the "Mission". It's like televangelist in a way.
Oh man. I have to agree with Big A on this! For the love of ...... When did the word non-comm and non-profit get routed to mean everyone should take a vow of poverty? This station is listener supported, ministry donation supported and business 'sponsorship' supported. They could take in a billion dollars. Just means they have to spend it. Probably anyone who understands this business and has talent will expect to be paid over minimum wage. Build a company up solidly, you would be right in line thinking you deserved a nice incentive, bonus, BMW....
Tibbs2 said:
Fundamentally I don't disagree at all. I was an employee of a listener supported Christian station at one point so I understand you don't get paid jack for doing what you do there. I've often wondered though, at what point does the term "Ministry" get substituted for "Business" with some of the non-comm stations? Way FM is a good example because in Nashville, they moved towers twice in recent memory. They place translators where they are going to be able to reach a respectable base of supporters. If not, they sell it to the highest bidder. Their signal is strongest in the southern portion of the metro because, natually, that's their most loyal base of listeners and frankly, that's where the money is at. To me, in the case of Nashville, having a signal that covers ALL of Nashville (relatively speaking of course) is much more of a "Ministry" than just covering the well off suburbs to the south and north. Seems like some are being left out.
I don't disagree with what they do. Even was a share partner for Way a while back. I just don't get their train of thought with some of the things they do. Doesn't mean I don't respect them as much or anything.
Like the song, "I went to the enemies camp and I, took back what he stole from me" from the Pensacola Revival in the 90's.
TheBigA said:
HAHA! Can't argue with the Lord.
Jim's half wit theme park is still sitting outside of Charlotte you know.
I want translator pirates like EMF to translate an over the air signal. Not to get it off of a satellite dish. I want EMF, Radio Assist Ministries, Family Radio, and other big translator and low powered networks to be limited in how many of these stations they can own. I want them to pay taxes. I am Christian. I maintain a few Christian stations. We need other good local low power operators with one or two who will serve our local communities rather than satellator sludge from out of our area. Let the Christian preaching and teaching groups buy AM stations. Or stream or buy time on other Christian media. There are commercial Christian formats in small towns who would be glad to sell them airtime.
Tibbs2 said:
Absolutely not. It's just some of the business decisions that some Christian broadcasters have made raise my eyebrow from time to time. Christian or not, it's still fair game to be discussed or criticized based on some of their practices. Just because they do something "in the name of God" doesn't mean that everything they do is blessed and brought forth by the Spirit. Mind you, I'm not judging them in any way or comdeming them, just curious as to some of their motives and reasonings. And before you say "because it's God's Will" hear me out. His Will or not, they are still humans in 'control' and they can still do things to benefit themselves or a group under the pretence that it's "God's Will" when it may not be (eg. moving Way FM's transmitter further out of the population center and being extremely selective over where they place translators). Of course that's not for any of us to judge mind you, but we can still hold them to a standard seeing how they survive off the listener. Again, I'm not saying they are in the wrong or doing something they shouldn't because they're not. I'm just raising some simple, fair, and unbiased questions about some of the practices in the past. I personally wish them very well on a side note!
I've began listening to KLove quite a bit during the day, mostly because everyone else plays sooooo many commercials. I've noticed the Fish has billboards all over town (Doug and Jackie do not have the same last name and it annoys me that they use her last name without using his). I've been in a few stores with KLove playing recently, but have never heard way or fish playing anywhere, ever. I can only assume it's due to signal issues, seeing as how most of my time is on the NE side of town.
Back to the point of my post. If KLove is going to compete they need to work on their feed issues. Right now they sound like they're streaming from inside a plastic tube and is unlistenable. Any time it storms you can count on them losing their feed and then crappy sound quality when it returns. Are they really using satellite instead of a hardwired feed? They have the signal and commercial-free to allow them to be #1 CCM, but the technical issues have got to be killing them.
Back to the point of my post. If KLove is going to compete they need to work on their feed issues. Right now they sound like they're streaming from inside a plastic tube and is unlistenable. Any time it storms you can count on them losing their feed and then crappy sound quality when it returns. Are they really using satellite instead of a hardwired feed? They have the signal and commercial-free to allow them to be #1 CCM, but the technical issues have got to be killing them.
NashvilleNative said:
They are under Cumulus hands until EMF actually takes over the license... My guess is there is a KLove iPump Recv and Satellite dish at the Cumulus cluster feeding KLove to 97.1 .. (they can't do a run it from the transmitter yet because EMF has not taken over and there is no MSW (Main Studio Waver) issued until EMF can take over and it's converted to Non-Com)... since it's still a commercial license under the LMA ... their at the mercy of what processing / STL path that Cumulus has in place.
EMF's corporate engineers have high standards for audio quality -- I know a few of them... I am sure things will improve once EMF takes actual 100% ownership.
NashvilleNative said:
My guess they are using her full name to play up on her popularity of being a CCM artist.
This was the first I've heard of someone mentioning a competitor on the radio in quite some time. You have to love Wally.
7:55 "I'd love to kick the snot out of Canklefritz and KLove."
http://soundcloud.com/wallyshow/jeff-foxworthy-on-the-wally
7:55 "I'd love to kick the snot out of Canklefritz and KLove."
http://soundcloud.com/wallyshow/jeff-foxworthy-on-the-wally
NashvilleNative said:
Wally's great to listen too! Unlike a lot of Christian radio he's very real, open and honest... oh and yes I loved the funny comment about Kankelfritz (one of the KLove morning show hosts) during the Jeff Foxworthy bit.
I was in Nashville last week, and I listened to WAY-FM while I was there, and I actually like them better than K-LOVE. I only tuned in to K-LOVE long enough to see how far out I could reach them, which was until I reached the Tennessee River on I-40 going West.
Interesting how so much talk about "non profit" and "non commercial" centers around religious formatted facilities that seem to, in many opinions, get a break.
Don't forget Public Radio ... WPLN here is largely listener supported via sharathons and large donations from corporate support and foundation.
In many cities some of the best looking facilities you'll find (and always the cleanest purest signal) is the NPR station.
One difference is ratings. Having access to Arbitron numbers and reading both commercial and non com numbers, it's impressive if not staggering to see the NPR station in or near the top tier. In Atlanta WABE is not only in the top 10 with 400,000 cume but in morning drive the adult numbers rival everybody. In Nashville WPLN continues to get not only big numbers, but quality listners.
Or put another way, those who listen to those stations are not even reachable with the stations we all talk about.
With the quality listener advertisers would love to get, and the consistency NPR stations have, I've wondered for years why more "commercial" stations with all their consultants, research and answers to everything, don't attempt to steal some of the NPR ideas. Their approach isn't necessarily that much more expensive but in a world of sameness and unoriginality, during drive time they speak to a lot of influential people.
Don't forget Public Radio ... WPLN here is largely listener supported via sharathons and large donations from corporate support and foundation.
In many cities some of the best looking facilities you'll find (and always the cleanest purest signal) is the NPR station.
One difference is ratings. Having access to Arbitron numbers and reading both commercial and non com numbers, it's impressive if not staggering to see the NPR station in or near the top tier. In Atlanta WABE is not only in the top 10 with 400,000 cume but in morning drive the adult numbers rival everybody. In Nashville WPLN continues to get not only big numbers, but quality listners.
Or put another way, those who listen to those stations are not even reachable with the stations we all talk about.
With the quality listener advertisers would love to get, and the consistency NPR stations have, I've wondered for years why more "commercial" stations with all their consultants, research and answers to everything, don't attempt to steal some of the NPR ideas. Their approach isn't necessarily that much more expensive but in a world of sameness and unoriginality, during drive time they speak to a lot of influential people.
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