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K-Love coming to WRQQ 97.1 Belle Meade 7/16/2012

But, truth be... CCM outlets are cutting back and making sure every dollar goes further... Many Way-Fm folks went part time and consolidated certain markets and jobs to be lean and mean on what they spend... Economy dictates a hard look at where the stewardship dollars go....
 
Which is another way of saying that there's not much difference in radio owners. Big owners, small owners, and non-commercial owners are all looking to save a buck.
 
stewie said:
Agree 100%.

If the sale included the studio facility then they are likely down linking at the studio and using the STL in place. They may choose to keep the studio facility and use it for news and local promotions staff.

I don't doubt that they'll be using the studios in Nashville at some point. They already do live weeks from GMA and they could also use it for live broadcasts with CCM artists. And I won't be surprised to hear the morning show being done from Nashville at least on special occasions, if not eventually permanently.
 
anotherguy said:
stewie said:
Agree 100%.

If the sale included the studio facility then they are likely down linking at the studio and using the STL in place. They may choose to keep the studio facility and use it for news and local promotions staff.

I don't doubt that they'll be using the studios in Nashville at some point. They already do live weeks from GMA and they could also use it for live broadcasts with CCM artists. And I won't be surprised to hear the morning show being done from Nashville at least on special occasions, if not eventually permanently.

Yet again we agree.

With Nashville being the center of the Country and CCM music scene, if the deal included a studio then it will be retained, rebuilt and reused. :)

If it didn't include a studio. it's likely they'll find office space for local promotions staff, news and a remote studio. K-LOVE has several markets where healthy competition exists (ie: Denver) where they have a local office and studio facility.

They want a presence in Nashville, no doubt.
 
skippertthomas said:
But, truth be... CCM outlets are cutting back and making sure every dollar goes further... Many Way-Fm folks went part time and consolidated certain markets and jobs to be lean and mean on what they spend... Economy dictates a hard look at where the stewardship dollars go....

Not all CCM outlets. EMF is alive and well and growing.
 
I don't believe the deal in Nashville includes studios as WRQQ is operated out of the Cumulus facility.. however I am pretty sure there will be a local presence in Nashville.. They (EMF) have studios (main) in Rocklin [all programming outside of mornings] Indy [Morning shows come from there].. and they have smaller studios for guest interviews, etc.. in Kansas City, and Denver. [Likely more that I am not aware of].
 
Kent T said:
EMF needs to be required to run live and local and pay taxes. And be required to hire an engineer per market.

They have many "contract" engineers in the field but nothing like one per market.

That would be a bit much considering all but a few have no facilities other than a rack of sat and radio gear in a transmitter shack. Not saying it's right, just saying it's not likely to happen unless FCC imposed.
 
Kent T said:
EMF needs to be required to run live and local and pay taxes. And be required to hire an engineer per market.

They are a non-profit and can't be required to pay most taxes. Whether or not they should be allowed to be non-profit is something I suppose can be debated, but that would open up a whole can of worms that would almost certainly veer off topic for a radio board!

Live programming isn't required for much of anyone, and engineers are only required for directional and/or high-powered AM's. I'm not really sure that employing an engineer per market would do much good as the transmitters are the most reliable equipment at any radio station bar none, and that's an engineer's specialty, not the on-air computers.

What I don't like is how EMF gets out of the main studio rule by pleading poverty when it rakes in tons every year.
 
Kent T said:
EMF needs to be required to run live and local and pay taxes. And be required to hire an engineer per market.

Wow...and who would make that requirement?

The contract engineer situation has been going on for about 30 years. The FCC itself has cut back on the engineering staff it has. They're in no position to make engineering demands of anyone else when they themself have outsourced their technical staff.
 
Kent T said:
EMF needs to be required to run live and local and pay taxes. And be required to hire an engineer per market.

Big corporate radio (Clear Channel, Cumulus, Cox, Wilks, CBS, etc. etc..) don't even have an engineer per every market in most cases.. Hey they even contract out work too like EMF does.

[Oh yea -- and most of their stations are not live either... just a local automation sitting in a dark studio most hours].
 
xmusicmatt said:
Big corporate radio (Clear Channel, Cumulus, Cox, Wilks, CBS, etc. etc..) don't even have an engineer per every market in most cases.

where did you get that idea? not true in Nashville and AFAIK...not true in other markets where the above groups operate
 
The main studio rules and the translator abuse of the translator rules are my main EMF beefs. If they are poor, why so many new acquisitions.
 
romer979fm said:
where did you get that idea? not true in Nashville and AFAIK...not true in other markets where the above groups operate

I didn't say all.. I just know that a few of those groups have engineers that cover multiple markets.. EMF has engineers for every market too (they just happen to be on a contract basis in most cases). Plus they have multiple corporate engineers overseeing everything.

One may dislike how EMF does business however they are doing everything 100% legal and what has been authorized by the FCC.
 
xmusicmatt said:
romer979fm said:
where did you get that idea? not true in Nashville and AFAIK...not true in other markets where the above groups operate

I didn't say all.. I just know that a few of those groups have engineers that cover multiple markets.. EMF has engineers for every market too (they just happen to be on a contract basis in most cases). Plus they have multiple corporate engineers overseeing everything.

One may dislike how EMF does business however they are doing everything 100% legal and what has been authorized by the FCC.

I dislike how EMF, WAY, and other so-called non-profits operate usually. Legal? Yeah. Shady in the eyes of most open minded people on the subject? Yes! EMF and WAY have gone out of their way to create what is essentially a monopoly on CCM radio and to me, that is wrong and it should be addressed. On top of that, they refuse to offer local programming and content in most of the markets they serve. I think it's garbage. They have "share-a-thons" where they beg for money because "we can't operate without your help" and then brag about raising 1-500,000 dollars on an annual basis. But pay no taxes? Sorry, that's wrong because they hide profit behind the moniker of "doing it for God". To me, that's wrong on a whole number of levels. I'm a Christian and feel this way FWIW.
 
People who argue that non-profits should pay taxes are missing the point. For the most part, non-profit organizations like churches, ministries, shelters, hospitals and yes even non-profit radio stations, put much more into a community than they take by not paying taxes. Most of them are already barely making it and I'd rather not see what our communities would be like without them just because someone thought they weren't paying "their fair share."

I have yet to see a Christian radio network that is bloated with cash. Some are doing well, but even K-Love which takes in tens of millions of dollars each year has a huge infrastructure to support. I have no idea what it costs to run their network so I'm not going to criticize their operation. I'm glad they are out there and I'm glad the others are too. Most of the people I know in Christian radio have great hearts and nothing but good intentions, but if you read a lot of the (uninformed) comments on this board you would think the opposite is true.
 
DJOnAStick said:
I dislike how EMF, WAY, and other so-called non-profits operate usually. Legal? Yeah. Shady in the eyes of most open minded people on the subject? Yes! EMF and WAY have gone out of their way to create what is essentially a monopoly on CCM radio and to me, that is wrong and it should be addressed. On top of that, they refuse to offer local programming and content in most of the markets they serve.

As I am not able to hear what local EMF is doing in some of their markets like Denver, Kansas City .. I can't speak on that.. [as they only offer a national stream online and my market does not have KLove].

But I know for a fact that WAY while airing national content is very local in their communities.. in the areas they have full power stations they have local staff, local promotions, in most areas airing local news, weather, traffic.. doing outreaches in those communities to help in time of need.. WAY in Denver after the fires went on air even with specific local content about the evacuations, places to get help, how to help etc.. in place of network programming [Which still discussed it].. A few years ago when the tornadoes went thru Alabama, way did a lot of local outreach (even though their own station in that area was off air for a brief time due to the storms and power issues)..

Would I like to see local CCM in every market? YES but the economy won't support it.. some areas only have CCM music due to the network programming.

I also know for a fact due to the state of our economy that even some of the Christian non-com players have seen cut backs in funding from their listeners and have had to make cuts themselves to ensure they could keep staying on air.. after all like you and I, as economy has suffered their power bills, costs of doing business etc have still rose.

EMF may make a lot of money but when you factor the costs involved in running as many FMs, Translators, Satellite up-link, facilities, staffing to ensure it all works 24/7, all the legal costs... they are not making as much money as one thinks...

I am sure folks like WAY would love to have the budget of just ONE of the lowest rated Commercial FMs in their market to work with... I am pretty confident their budget is no where near that.

Heck, EMF spends a lot of money on online streaming... They have a very large audience with online royalties to sound exchange.. they write a very big check!
 
To address EMF's operating costs.....quit buying radio stations. You'll save TONS of money!

As for good intentions....is that what you call it when you enter a market with two other Christian stations doing the same format? Why not go to a city that doesn't have a CCM outlet.
 
jojosunbeam1 said:
To address EMF's operating costs.....quit buying radio stations. You'll save TONS of money!

As for good intentions....is that what you call it when you enter a market with two other Christian stations doing the same format? Why not go to a city that doesn't have a CCM outlet.

They DO buy stations in areas with no CCM, and also struggling Christian stations that are in danger of going under. There are a lot of areas where locally owned Christian stations won't give CCM a chance, or have tried and failed, and it takes EMF coming in and proving that there IS an audience for CCM. And it definitely makes sense for them to have a presence in Nashville since this is where most CCM comes from.

I'd definitely rather see EMF come in than for a station to end up in the hands of some KJV only anti-CCM group or a dollar a holler outfit like WNQM or WWCR shortwave. That probably wouldn't have been the case in Nashville, but it does happen in places where a struggling Christian station has to sell, which is what happened in Knoxville. Thankfully EMF bought the stations there.
 
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