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Kari Lake previews her plans for Voice of America in the next Administration.

SomeRadioGuy said:
IT would appear OANN is a business founded by a man named Robert Herring, in a quick search i didn't find any associaiton with AFA, but i did find this

timesofsandiego.com

OAN Founder Robert Herring Sr. Has Alzheimer's Disease, Fights Deposition

Legal counsel for the 83-year-old CEO of Herring Networks seek to block his deposition in Dominion Voting's multibillion-dollar defamation suit.
timesofsandiego.com timesofsandiego.com

Herring has also been sued for previous businesses he owned that operated illegally
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I was wrong and you were right. Here is the Wikipedia entry on OAN (it's well-sourced):

One America News Network - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

Of course, I failed to follow my own advice about spelling and defining the word "assume" at the same time--I had assumed that OAN was part of the AFR group because the latter linked to it for news and analysis on its website. Oops!
 
DavidEduardo said:
But that is the same thing. Trump and his people are saying that the service is worthless. Their reason is also sound, as the kind of coverage VOA was presenting was very "inside the Beltway" inspired and not valid in the real world.
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So what is your view now that Kari Lake has replaced what she described as biased reporting with more biased reporting from OAN that also presents a very "inside the beltway" image, that is not relatable or valid to people in other countries?
 
TheBigA said:
So what is your view now that Kari Lake has replaced what she described as biased reporting with more biased reporting from OAN that also presents a very "inside the beltway" image, that is not relatable or valid to people in other countries?
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Again, you are ignoring the fact that to be "relatable of valid" there has to be an audience. There is no audience.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Again, you are ignoring the fact that to be "relatable of valid" there has to be an audience. There is no audience.
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And again you're ignoring the fact that the government, in making this decision, didn't consider whether or not there's an audience. Their only concern is the message, not whether or not its received.
 
TheBigA said:
And again you're ignoring the fact that the government, in making this decision, didn't consider whether or not there's an audience. Their only concern is the message, not whether or not its received.
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I agree with that, but here in the real world (credit to Alan Jackson?) we have to look just as much at the result as the motivation.
 
TheBigA said:
So what is your view now that Kari Lake has replaced what she described as biased reporting with more biased reporting from OAN that also presents a very "inside the beltway" image, that is not relatable or valid to people in other countries?
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Can OAN say MAGA in 45 languages?
 
gr8oldies said:
Can OAN say MAGA in 45 languages?
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I read somewhere today – Either Washington Post or NY Times, I think – that OAN only produces its news broadcasts in English.

Given how many in this administration seem to feel about immigrants (and, by extension, their languages), I somehow doubt that will change. English seems to be MAGA's de facto official language, and other languages don't seem to be well tolerated.

c
 
cc333 said:
I read somewhere today – Either Washington Post or NY Times, I think – that OAN only produces its news broadcasts in English.

Given how many in this administration seem to feel about immigrants (and, by extension, their languages), I somehow doubt that will change. English seems to be MAGA's de facto official language, and other languages don't seem to be well tolerated.

c
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If that is the case, then surely MAGA's messages will not get beyond the border outside of English-speaking lands. And, if recent elections in those other English-speaking lands are anything to go by, MAGA has its work cut out for it. For the record, I wish them the worst of luck.
 
ted chittenden said:
If that is the case, then surely MAGA's messages will not get beyond the border outside of English-speaking lands. And, if recent elections in those other English-speaking lands are anything to go by, MAGA has its work cut out for it. For the record, I wish them the worst of luck.
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but the VOA has broadcasts in many languages and journalists in those languages.... and journalists translate from english.

However, regardless of what the source is, it must past the sniff test..... verify with at least two source and if it doesnt, it does't get used.
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
However, regardless of what the source is, it must past the sniff test..... verify with at least two source and if it doesnt, it does't get used.
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One of the reasons stations and newspapers used AP and UPI (and their equivalents such as Reuters, FrancePress, Infobae, etc.) is that we know that those "wire services" have already conducted the "sniff test".
 
DavidEduardo said:
One of the reasons stations and newspapers used AP and UPI (and their equivalents such as Reuters, FrancePress, Infobae, etc.) is that we know that those "wire services" have already conducted the "sniff test".
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Im pretty sure that rule at VOA applies to ANY source. Even the AP. This earlier statement about two souces was told to me by a VOA staffer
 
SomeRadioGuy said:
Im pretty sure that rule at VOA applies to ANY source. Even the AP. This earlier statement about two souces was told to me by a VOA staffer
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I wish more stations followed that rule. I've seen a few single source stories on a station that ended up having to be retracted once it was discovered the info and the source who gave them the info that they turned into a story, wasn't accurate.
 
cc333 said:
I read somewhere today – Either Washington Post or NY Times, I think – that OAN only produces its news broadcasts in English.

Given how many in this administration seem to feel about immigrants (and, by extension, their languages), I somehow doubt that will change. English seems to be MAGA's de facto official language, and other languages don't seem to be well tolerated.

c
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Maybe there will be a continuous loop that says "stay the hell away from the USA" in 45 languages
 
ted chittenden said:
If that is the case, then surely MAGA's messages will not get beyond the border outside of English-speaking lands. And, if recent elections in those other English-speaking lands are anything to go by, MAGA has its work cut out for it. For the record, I wish them the worst of luck.
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I can imagine the new VOA will be supporting right-wing parties like Germany's AfD
 
OAN???

Are THEY still around? I thought when the cable companies had enough of them that they crawled back under their rock. Now they're running VOA radio? Isn't American shortwave radio a cesspool already?

I thought when the judge told Kari Lake "Bring VOA back" they meant "Bring it back the way it was". Or at least that's the usual sub-text of an order like that from a federal judge.

Do judges really now have to have a group of professional lawyers in chambers? Reading the judges orders back to them to quadruple check for any loopholes?

They can do it and I would strongly advise that they do going forward because apparently, MAGA's contempt for the law (if not basic world order itself) is this thorough. They need to make airtight, watertight, flame retardant, bulletproof orders with these kinds of people. Enough's enough.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
Yes it is. However the only people still listening to U.S. private shortwave broadcasters are the most die-hard SW enthusiasts. Otherwise those stations are an irrelevance, which is where the various USAGM services are headed.
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I brought up the relevance of a niche SW on the NASWA email list recently and no surprise, they older guys there tried to defend it. I said, in many more words, that RRI broadcasting in Romanian to the East coast of north america was a waste and backed it up with numbers.

RRI is available via streaming, via phone calls and other methods. How good is SW reception going to be in the concrete jungle of a city? THere's about 500,000 to 750,000 Romanians in the US with most of them on the east coast. Less than 50,000 were originally born in Romania and the median age is about 36 among romanians in the US.

And i further said:
It's one thing to broadcast in Tigrinya, Arabic and French to Africa where people are very poor, may not have great internet or any at all, but probably have at least a basic radio or places like Tibet and places in SE Asia where the government censors stuff (and yes, I know, jams signals).

When RFA and VOA Shut down, I heard/saw some comments from people who did rely on RFa/VOA.

Resources and what can be done/cant be done, whats available are way different in the US then third world Africa or Tibet.

In the US, theres a large polish population in Chicago and New Britain, Ct.. some of the largest polish populations besides Poland. Chicago has more than one polish station and New Britain used to have a station that did polish alot. There's been a long standing russian station in NYc on an HD3 of a big FM and a small FM translator.

It's about serving an underserved audience. How undeserved for media are expats in a big city? EVen if they don't have a station in their language, they can find it online.
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Several guys defended in and the reason to keep it.

It's ONE thing to broadcast RRI in english to NAm... not saying it has a huge audience, but more of one than RRI in Romanian or French to NAm.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
Yes it is. However the only people still listening to U.S. private shortwave broadcasters are the most die-hard SW enthusiasts. Otherwise those stations are an irrelevance, which is where the various USAGM services are headed.
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I figure somebody overseas is listening to Brother Stair, but I can't imagine who
 


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