You mean from the "15" don't you? The KEIB transmitter is in City of Industry and has a great signal over the 210 from Pomona to San Fernando.
The part of the 210 from Fontana to Redlands is not in the Los Angeles MSA.
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KEIB The Home of Clear Channel Talk Hosts... Not
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You mean from the "15" don't you? The KEIB transmitter is in City of Industry and has a great signal over the 210 from Pomona to San Fernando.
The part of the 210 from Fontana to Redlands is not in the Los Angeles MSA.
Reagan's FCC was the one that did away with the "Fairness Doctrine" and then Corporate radio took over with the right wing nut conservative talk.....Clear Channel just had to give lardbutt loudmouth Rush boy a station with the callsign that matches his fantasy EIB name (of course there is NO EIB Network...Rush used that term decades ago as a DJ playing Top 40!!) Love how they also spend money on a GOLD plated EV for him....(as if that has any better audio quality).....of course thats nothing compared to the new CEO of CC's office where he has the "hall of mist"......wonder how many employees salaries that cost?? I don't like talk radio anyway....the hosts run it, they have fake callers at times to make their point, and if you think they take calls from anyone who is not in agreement with their opinion, I want to know what you are smoking or drinking...must be good stuff....ahh the good ole days of REAL radio when they were positive and did GOOD for the community...not spewed hate talk and negative ideas nationwide....
Now wait a minute! Reagan’s FCC indeed did away with the fairness doctrine in the eighties. However, it wasn’t until the Clinton era (ten years later) that the station ownership rules changed. I’m not sure if it was the FCC or Congress that did the deed.
In any event, it wasn’t Clear Channel that put Rush on KFI. The station was still owned by Cox Broadcasting out of Atlanta with General Manager Howard Neal and Program Manager David G Hall. Rush was being promoted as a host by the former director of ABC’s defunct talk network and was on perhaps a dozen stations led by WABC New York when an internecine dispute erupted at KFI.
Geoff Edwards at that time was the late morning host following Bill Handel; Tom Leykis was on in evening drive. A fatwah, supported by an artist named Cat Stevens, was issued by Iran’s Ayatollah against a European poet named Salman Rushdie.
Here is an account of what occurred next, taken from http://radioinsight.com/community/topic/rip-geoff-edwards/
Edwards “ didn’t agree with Tom Leykis’s plan to publicly burn all the Cat Stevens records he could get hold of. Geoff refused to promote the event and was suspended. Stevens had become a Muslim and supported the Ayatollah’s fatwa against Satanic Verses author Salman Rushdie. Leykis ultimately destroyed the records with a steamroller because burning them would have caused air pollution. Edwards quit KFI and was replaced with Rush Limbaugh. And Rushdie is alive and well in 2014, thank you.”
This left KFI with a hole in its lineup and it was Cox’s Neal and Hall (not Clear Channel) that initially put Rush onto the station. He was an instant hit and KABC’s Michael Jackson never recovered.
Cox later that year (1998) sold KFI and its two sister stations (KOST and KACE) to Chancellor Media as part of a 16 station swap. Chancellor then merged with Capstar in 1999 and rebranded itself AMFM Inc. That same year (1999) CC snapped up Jacor Communications, which owned 230 stations and also Premiere Radio Networks. Premiere owned both Rush’s program and that of Dr. Laura, which at the time originated from KFI’s old studios at 8th& Ardmore. Dr Dean Eudell was also in their stable of hosts. Premiere used the EIB network label for those stations carrying Limbaugh - it may well have originated as claimed by another poster with Limbaugh himself in a prior job. Premiere was originally founded by former KFI disc jockey (1977-78) Tim Kelly.
The point is that CC didn’t acquire AMFM Inc and gain control of KFI until 2000. By that time Rush, Dr. Laura and Dr Eudell had been on the station for two years. (Source: Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KFI_AM_640 ).
In any event, it wasn’t Clear Channel that put Rush on KFI. The station was still owned by Cox Broadcasting out of Atlanta with General Manager Howard Neal and Program Manager David G Hall. Rush was being promoted as a host by the former director of ABC’s defunct talk network and was on perhaps a dozen stations led by WABC New York when an internecine dispute erupted at KFI.
Geoff Edwards at that time was the late morning host following Bill Handel; Tom Leykis was on in evening drive. A fatwah, supported by an artist named Cat Stevens, was issued by Iran’s Ayatollah against a European poet named Salman Rushdie.
Here is an account of what occurred next, taken from http://radioinsight.com/community/topic/rip-geoff-edwards/
Edwards “ didn’t agree with Tom Leykis’s plan to publicly burn all the Cat Stevens records he could get hold of. Geoff refused to promote the event and was suspended. Stevens had become a Muslim and supported the Ayatollah’s fatwa against Satanic Verses author Salman Rushdie. Leykis ultimately destroyed the records with a steamroller because burning them would have caused air pollution. Edwards quit KFI and was replaced with Rush Limbaugh. And Rushdie is alive and well in 2014, thank you.”
This left KFI with a hole in its lineup and it was Cox’s Neal and Hall (not Clear Channel) that initially put Rush onto the station. He was an instant hit and KABC’s Michael Jackson never recovered.
Cox later that year (1998) sold KFI and its two sister stations (KOST and KACE) to Chancellor Media as part of a 16 station swap. Chancellor then merged with Capstar in 1999 and rebranded itself AMFM Inc. That same year (1999) CC snapped up Jacor Communications, which owned 230 stations and also Premiere Radio Networks. Premiere owned both Rush’s program and that of Dr. Laura, which at the time originated from KFI’s old studios at 8th& Ardmore. Dr Dean Eudell was also in their stable of hosts. Premiere used the EIB network label for those stations carrying Limbaugh - it may well have originated as claimed by another poster with Limbaugh himself in a prior job. Premiere was originally founded by former KFI disc jockey (1977-78) Tim Kelly.
The point is that CC didn’t acquire AMFM Inc and gain control of KFI until 2000. By that time Rush, Dr. Laura and Dr Eudell had been on the station for two years. (Source: Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KFI_AM_640 ).
The mister was part of the remodel of the space CC leased in NYC for the corporate HQ. It is intended to create an interesting atmosphere for visiting major advertisers, content providers and business partners. Visitor's logos will be projected into the mist, visible from the elevator lobby, where the sounds of CC stations will be heard. A lobby is the first impression visitors get, and first impressions count. Along with everything else, it contributes to getting new business. It probably paid for itself in the first few days.
Yes, EIB was a Rush Limbaugh invention. There seems to be an edge in your posts against El Rushbo, who always acknowledged he was trying to entertaining , and his dittoheads, who never claimed to be objective. The fact is that he and those who emulated him succeeded while liberal talk did not.
Why?
The analysis spotlights one cause – the conservatives had both talent and station ownership in the midst of a vacuum and changing industry landscape on their side.
http://www.radiosurvivor.com/2010/01/24/the-death-of-air-america-its-the-ownership-stupid/
The subsequent success of Cumulus (Mark Levin, Don Imus, Herman Cain, Michael Savage, Dennis Miller) and Salem Communications (Bill Bennett, Mike Gallagher, Dennis Praeger, Michael Medved, Hugh Hewitt) seem to validate this.
But if that is the entire answer then why didn’t CC stations with hosts like Randy Rhodes and Rachel Maddow do better? What happened to Jesse Jackson and CC, Mike Huckabee and Geraldo on Cumulus?
Could it be that in AM talk radio the demographics favor the conservatives because they tend to be 40+ while younger listeners just aren’t listening as much to AM radio?
I’m, too old to be “the answer” (apologies to those over at radio 870) but “just suggestin.”
Why?
The analysis spotlights one cause – the conservatives had both talent and station ownership in the midst of a vacuum and changing industry landscape on their side.
http://www.radiosurvivor.com/2010/01/24/the-death-of-air-america-its-the-ownership-stupid/
The subsequent success of Cumulus (Mark Levin, Don Imus, Herman Cain, Michael Savage, Dennis Miller) and Salem Communications (Bill Bennett, Mike Gallagher, Dennis Praeger, Michael Medved, Hugh Hewitt) seem to validate this.
But if that is the entire answer then why didn’t CC stations with hosts like Randy Rhodes and Rachel Maddow do better? What happened to Jesse Jackson and CC, Mike Huckabee and Geraldo on Cumulus?
Could it be that in AM talk radio the demographics favor the conservatives because they tend to be 40+ while younger listeners just aren’t listening as much to AM radio?
I’m, too old to be “the answer” (apologies to those over at radio 870) but “just suggestin.”
If Rush fed audio to a bunch of stations, it was a network. All the term means is some stations connected to relay the same programming to listeners in different parts of the country. EIB is a network, owned by another network. Just like Cumulus owns various separate networks for news and talk and music programming, each with its own brand.
There are so many falsehoods in this, I don't even know where to begin.
SMG - I agree and took two rather long shots at it already - why don't you take over?
I just got through listening to 90 minutes of CNBC's Jane Wells "live and local" filling in for John and Ken. I thought "excellent." I thought the same about Kevin James on New Year's weekend. Seems like the station is auditioning some real talent. Meanwhile they are also using its field reporting news staff, particularly David Cruz but also others, more aggressively. Nes director Chris Little was actually being afternoon anchor a few days this past week; breaking news stories, particularly Senator Yee and the LAX theft ring , began to take hold as the day wore on. Someone over there is trying.
I just got through listening to 90 minutes of CNBC's Jane Wells "live and local" filling in for John and Ken. I thought "excellent." I thought the same about Kevin James on New Year's weekend. Seems like the station is auditioning some real talent. Meanwhile they are also using its field reporting news staff, particularly David Cruz but also others, more aggressively. Nes director Chris Little was actually being afternoon anchor a few days this past week; breaking news stories, particularly Senator Yee and the LAX theft ring , began to take hold as the day wore on. Someone over there is trying.
Robin is a good PD, and has held KFI at a very high level for an enviable length of time.
As was just said, I don't know where to start... so much is wrong here.
I programmed talk stations in LA and a few other large markets, and none of what you say rings true.
Talk radio "took over" AM in the 80's because music radio had all gone to FM. And in most markets, what worked was conservative talk. Yet in LA, San Francisco, Miami and a number of other markets, there were plenty of middle of the road voices and liberal or progressive perspectives.
In fact, well before Fairness was eliminated there were lots of talkers.. if balance was no longer required after '87, they could be more liberal, more conservative or keep a certain balance. Stations like WNWS in Miami, WOR in New York, KGO in San Francisco, KABC in LA and many others continued to be fairly balanced, while others took a more conservative approach and ended up being the ratings winners and eventual survivors. It was market-force driven.
Of course hosts run talk shows. Opra ran her show. Ellen runs hers now. That is why they are hosts and don't have a script. Otherwise, they would be actors. And all shows screen calls. They want the right demos, they don't want the goofballs. And they want callers that they can dialog with... so the morons are out, too.
There were no "good ole' days". Things change, opinions change and the audience advertisers want changes too. There is no evil plot. And if Rush wants a gold mike, terrific. He has a show and is a showman... the mike is part of his showmanship and flair and that makes him even more popular. He's entertaining to many, and that is why they pay him the big bucks.
I already addressed the network issue and the mister... so everything you posted is just wrong.
No knock on Robin. CC has most of the top 10 spots in Los Angeles radio over several formats. The younger audience is with KBIG and KIIS, the Dodger fans with KLAC. And Fox sports is presumably happy with their ratings compsred tothe two other all sports ststions. Reassigning the tea party to KEIB and bringing David Cruz over to the mother ship seems like a wise strategic move every day - give Robin due credit for that. But who is navigating the "live and local" mother ship?
Program directors as I understand give overall direction and negotiate contracts. They are not holding court in the newsroom or control booth. Someone is being very "hands on" at KFI coordinating the hosts and news department since the big shakeup. If I didn't know better I'd suspect the ghost of Harrison Holliway. He understood that successul radio took both technology and local audience interest - and he delivered that for KFRC in San Francisco under Don and Thomas Lee and then, until his death, at KFI for Earle C Anthony. Is David G Hall lurking in the hallway? I doubt it, but someone is running daily operations and they know both news and Los Angeles..
It will be interesting to see where KFI "live and local" winds up with the overall audience by November.
Program directors as I understand give overall direction and negotiate contracts. They are not holding court in the newsroom or control booth. Someone is being very "hands on" at KFI coordinating the hosts and news department since the big shakeup. If I didn't know better I'd suspect the ghost of Harrison Holliway. He understood that successul radio took both technology and local audience interest - and he delivered that for KFRC in San Francisco under Don and Thomas Lee and then, until his death, at KFI for Earle C Anthony. Is David G Hall lurking in the hallway? I doubt it, but someone is running daily operations and they know both news and Los Angeles..
It will be interesting to see where KFI "live and local" winds up with the overall audience by November.
Carlos Amezcua after a year has departed KEIB - allowing the station to place the Clark Howard program immediately after that of Dave Ramsey. What either host as to do with "Patriot Radio" is perplexing, but they do appeal to similar audiences and separating them with Carlos was a puzzling juxtaposition. .
Some had hoped Carlos would move to KFI in a role similar to that of David Cruz. This would have given the station another well known host to augment the current award winning news staff ( six golden mikes for Steve Gregory alone!). It would also have made room for Larry Elder on KEIB. It is now apparent that this won't be happening.
Some had hoped Carlos would move to KFI in a role similar to that of David Cruz. This would have given the station another well known host to augment the current award winning news staff ( six golden mikes for Steve Gregory alone!). It would also have made room for Larry Elder on KEIB. It is now apparent that this won't be happening.
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Larry Elder would never have landed at KEIB. iHeart can't afford him.
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