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Ken Berryhill Laments Sale Of WRVU

Unreal and great article. Stephanie Toone nailed it to perfection!! She needs to flee Gannat. This Berryhill sure sounds like ust another radical community volunteer and inept like all the non-student villians that ruined WRVU (as someone claimed on this board a few weeks ago) that lead to the decision by the scumbags to sell the station to allow us in Nashville to now have to listen to the W0RST programmed, most tool-oriented, unimaginative playlist of tired classical "pieces" when there is a host of great works that will never see the enlightened light of day. THANKFULLY, there are great classical stations on the internet to listen to for free, so I don't have to be a supporting member and will never spend another $$$ buying pseudo-commercials on WPLN.

Best line of the feature story "auto rotation at www.wruv.org"...

It just feels a little emptier in the communities surrounding Vanderbilt when I think that WRVU isn't still just doing it's own thing. Heck, it really doesn't matter anyway. It's just another nail in the coffin of unique. Maybe Crumulus will buy NPR next.
 
Berryhill's mistake is thinking educational college-owned radio was ever about broadcasting. It never was. It was supposed to be about education. That's how colleges and universities justified it in the early days. The concept of student run and supported radio was a great idea at one time, but had really gotten out of hand. Programming at WRVU wasn't about broadcasting, money, education, or the students. It was about the personal ego of those on the air. That's why it's gone.

But I don't disagree that the statement that it's about "money, money, money." And people in this country need to discuss who they want to pay for their media. It's a much bigger topic than WRVU. It's about government funding for public broadcasting, it's about private ownership of commercial radio, and it's about selling access to the airwaves to the highest bidder. Someone has to pay. The students at Vanderbilt have already spoken. They don't want to pay for something they didn't use. There's a lot of that going around these days.
 
It is interesting that we have a very expensive arm of the government, the FCC, that "regulates" to the higgest bidders entities that will be extinct. Makes me wonder when the term "FM" in the online dictionary will make reference to a past form of broadcasting.

I guess college radio has obviously changed --- but I can say my own experiences with college taught me a tremendous amount, but I loved it so much, that I wanted more than just a place to go play funky music and talk to three listeners. We, as a great team, put out a terrific product that people loved. There were those that hated that we were not the typical alt. format. Radiv was the highlight of my 15 years as a freshman....:) The other things college taught me, I can't post on here, obviously, but those that know me on here know that the love of the fermented juice paid off as well....haha.

I do need a gin and a Krystal....
 
TheBigA said:
Berryhill's mistake is thinking educational college-owned radio was ever about broadcasting. It never was. It was supposed to be about education. That's how colleges and universities justified it in the early days. The concept of student run and supported radio was a great idea at one time, but had really gotten out of hand. Programming at WRVU wasn't about broadcasting, money, education, or the students. It was about the personal ego of those on the air. That's why it's gone.

But I don't disagree that the statement that it's about "money, money, money." And people in this country need to discuss who they want to pay for their media. It's a much bigger topic than WRVU. It's about government funding for public broadcasting, it's about private ownership of commercial radio, and it's about selling access to the airwaves to the highest bidder. Someone has to pay. The students at Vanderbilt have already spoken. They don't want to pay for something they didn't use. There's a lot of that going around these days.

Big A, you speak like you were actually volunteering at WRVU. Unfortunately I know that you did not. Quit making assumptions on what you think went on at WRVU. You are so opposite the truth of what really happened. There were not a majority of community member dj'ing, The students did not speak, VSC spoke with a board that was rigged - fixed or whatever you choose to call it. The station management was hand picked to do as told. And not sure there were egos as big as yours at the station. If you believe the press releases, then you are 100% right. Wish I could agree with that. I know how it went down.

Nock
 
Tibbs2 said:
the W0RST programmed, most tool-oriented, unimaginative playlist of tired classical "pieces" when there is a host of great works that will never see the enlightened light of day

Yuh, it's like, they've totally been playing the same 300 songs over and over for, like, centuries...
 
Nock said:
Big A, you speak like you were actually volunteering at WRVU. Unfortunately I know that you did not. Quit making assumptions on what you think went on at WRVU. You are so opposite the truth of what really happened. There were not a majority of community member dj'ing,

I agree that the board was rigged, and the advisor was making up stuff when he said students don't listen to OTA radio. They do. Just not WRVU. But the students didn't help their cause by acting as though they were immune from University control. That was a mistake. The house-cleaning that was done a couple years ago led to this. That should have been a wake-up call. But this is a microcosm of broadcasting in general. Some think the airwaves belong to the people. They don't. They belong to the licensees. They are the ones in control, the ones with the responsibility, and the ones who can pull out the rug if they want to. And this was a case where the licensee pulled out the rug, as was their right and responsibility. Nothing else matters. Moral of the story: Students need to remember who owns the license.
 
Nock said:
Who raised the dough for the initial license and built the station with their own funds.

I read the Tennessean article again, and it doesn't say the students built the station with their own funds. It says Berryhill went to the University, and worked with professors to build the station.

In the case of the O'Keefe paintings, a lot of attention was paid to the way in which the donation was made. If there is to be a legal challenge to this sale, based on how the University obtained the license, a lot will be based on the documentation of how the station was established and how the University came to hold the license. But that would be in a lawsuit. Not an FCC hearing.
 
Please do not believe the Tennessean. One thing I have learned through this process is that whoever gets the press release out first gets the word in. Both VSC and PLN releases are full of untruths. So much of what was published in both Internet and newspaper was word for word from those press releases. Unfortunately the release from Friends and Family of WRVU never was published or included in those stories.

www.savewrvu.com/history this is where the facts are as written by the students who built the station.

Nock
 
I read all the savewrvo materials and there are a lot of gaps in the story. Specifically in terms of who applied for the FM license, under what name, who specifically paid for the equipment, and how VSC was formed. If university resources were used, including staff, buildings, and the name of the university, then it will be hard to demonstrate that WRVU belonged exclusively to the students. You can't expect an organization to house and pay for an operation, and then claim ownership.

The "sweat equity" on the part of students in the building of the station doesn't translate to a donation. There are a lot of activities that students do for free as part of their education. Student athletes attract paying audiences to events, and they are not "benefactors," as you called the WRVU founders. Interns put in time at various businesses, and that time is seen as part of their education, not a donation.

Then there's the student activity fee. Was there ever a poll or vote taken among the students about the use of the fee money for the operation of the radio station? Before a group can claim student ownership, based on the SAF, one needs to determine the actual majority view of the students who pay into that fund. Students who disapprove of their SAF going to a radio station have rights too.
 
Nock said:
Please do not believe the Tennessean... this is where the facts are as written by the students who built the station.

While I would never pick the Tennessean in any fight, the truth is actually in the middle when it comes to what both "sides" are stating. As far as what students have to say, remember, most students on campus believe the university experience is about students and student culture. Nothing could be further from the truth. The modern university is all about big business. They're all about selling education and sports, soliciting donors and grants, and in the case of Vanderbilt, selling medical services and research. Yeah, there are students who believe WRVU was about them. Professors saw it as a teaching tool. But the university simply saw it as an outdated tool that should be sold while it still had some worth as a commodity.
 
jetfli said:
Nock said:
Please do not believe the Tennessean... this is where the facts are as written by the students who built the station.

While I would never pick the Tennessean in any fight, the truth is actually in the middle when it comes to what both "sides" are stating. As far as what students have to say, remember, most students on campus believe the university experience is about students and student culture. Nothing could be further from the truth. The modern university is all about big business. They're all about selling education and sports, soliciting donors and grants, and in the case of Vanderbilt, selling medical services and research. Yeah, there are students who believe WRVU was about them. Professors saw it as a teaching tool. But the university simply saw it as an outdated tool that should be sold while it still had some worth as a commodity.

I think you've got more sense than anybody who has posted so far, including the ones who want to exclusively blame VSC, or the students, or WPLN. Your views sound cynical, but cynicism usually gets closer to the truth than conspiratorial thinking. From the 1970s onward, college stations were a student activity, with little if any "educational" value to them, regardless of the founders' intentions. More or less, they were the beneficiaries of the serendipitous occurrence of the rise of hard rock music in the hippie/counterculture era, and in some cases, administrations probably conceded them to the activist student groups of the time, since then-new media like public TV made radio passe as an educational medium. (There is, of course, no positive evidence that VU "handed" the station over to students because of this, but in other parts of the country, the student demonstrations for a greater say in campus affairs almost certainly had an effect.)

In other words, nobody foresaw, not even Berryhill, that college radio would become mainly identified with youth culture, back in the 1950s. In fact, I would suggest to all that sentiment and nostalgia has fueled this angst more than any present-day value college radio has, as the baby boom generation mourns the loss of one of "its" products (likewise for subsequent generations, albeit progressively less and less, up until about 1995). That's what so much of this institution-bashing (and what could be more American, in a time like this with failing economic and political structures?) really amounts to, grief.

Even if VSC can be proven wrong about student listenership, VSC's mandate is to serve both the student body and the larger community by providing information. From what I know, WRVU ran no programs, even in timeslots like Sunday mornings, about happenings and activities on campus, or for that matter, about the schools and departments. If the "e-staff" could have been persuaded to perhaps cede some time on the station for VSC to produce a polished, professional discussion/interview program about the University, and even if few if any people listened, VSC might (and I stress "might") have given the station a reprieve. Instead, the staff did what one would expect college kids to do, they obviously went to bat for their friends in programming choices, indulging their often snobbish interests to the exclusion of other considerations such as accessibility of the music, artistic merit, and the like.

Like it or not, elitism is not popular right now, even at high-end schools like VU, and WRVU got itself caught on the wrong side of things culturally. And you can be sure this is going to happen elsewhere: college radio cultures that have been years or decades in the making are not going to change overnight. In this day and time, that's a liability.
 
It's about "money money money?" Hilarious. VU never made money off this station. and WPLN, being a non profit, isn't going to score big revenue flow from this. It might just quieten some of
their snobby Belle Meade donors who probably don't listen to classical as much as they'd like to imply but who are as a group just like getting their way.

I suspect even Alexander Herd had no idea WRVU was around. (yeah you think Mr Chancellor or any other Vandy execs had WRVU on their presets). It's a real exaggeration of believed importance. Vandy isn't a place serious broadcast students attended and Lord did that ever show on the air.

I can't figure what the Tennessean wanted to accomplish with that one, except maybe to acknowledge the front page story of the Nashville Scene, but the decision is done..old news..somebody explain if Vandy Students got wrtv back, what would they do better next time?

Nuthin'. It was more fun than beneficial.
And like Davis Kidd and other things that became irrelevant, soon we'll be wringing our hands over another crisis
 
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