KFRC 610 in 1966 "the First year at top 40 airchecks

[LKellerIII]

I did see some airchecks that Charlie Van Dyke bounced between RKO/Boss Drake Stations like WRKO, KHJ and CKLW in the 1970's before he became the Local TV News Voiceover artist and the VO for KRTH in the 1980's- Present. But also I noticed that KYNO Fresno in 1966 had the "Real Pete McNeil Show" At first I thought it was rip-off of Real Don Steele of 93KHJ and K-Earth 101 but they were real. But the Jingle that KYNO had was "The Big 13" based off the "Big 610" theme from KFRC and "KY-NO Number one" that was later used on the "K-Earth 101" jingle.

I don't think any one Drake jingle was necessarily "based on" any other Drake jingle. They all followed the same format. "The Big 13" may have predated "The Big 610." in fact, I believe KYNO was one of the first Drake stations, before KGB and KHJ. If I remember the stories correctly, Drake went to Fresno after KYA, and that was where he met partner Gene Chenault, who was programming KYNO's competitor.

Bill Drake didn't even originate that "Big (frequency)" thing - that was standard issue on Top 40 stations for at least a few years before Boss Radio.

The Drake stations that had...what would you call them...acronyms for call letters (?) all had that "____Number One" jingle, to fill out the seemingly required 4 or 5 note format. There was Ky-no, but also Ka-fy (Bakersfield), K-Don (Salinas), and Ke-no (Las Vegas, naturally)....probably others.

And yes - K-Earth used the same Johhny Mann jingles - at least after Bill Drake took over programming KRTH. They not only sounded great, they were nostalgic for all the baby boomers who grew up with the Top 40 Drake stations in the 60s. You also heard them here in the Bay Area on Oldies KFRC (99.7 and 610) and "93/KYA" (FM).

 

[DavidKaye]

I did see some airchecks that Charlie Van Dyke bounced between RKO/Boss Drake Stations like WRKO, KHJ and CKLW in the 1970's before he became the Local TV News Voiceover artist and the VO for KRTH in the 1980's- Present. But also I noticed that KYNO Fresno in 1966 had the "Real Pete McNeil Show" At first I thought it was rip-off of Real Don Steele of 93KHJ and K-Earth 101 but they were real. But the Jingle that KYNO had was "The Big 13" based off the "Big 610" theme from KFRC and "KY-NO Number one" that was later used on the "K-Earth 101" jingle.

Gene Chenault called Bill Drake after he left KYA in SF and offered him a consulting job for his KYNO in Fresno and Knox LaRue's KSTN in Stockton. Drake refined the format and KYNO shot to #1 in one ratings book, something unheard of at the time.

Wanting to duplicate the format nationwide, he consulted a bunch of stations. Because of this desire to duplicate his success, the jingles were exactly the same, except for slight adjustment for call letter tempos -- KSTN, KYNO, 93KHJ, KFRC, WRKO, KATC, KGB, WOR-FM, WHBQ, and even Windsor Ontario's CKLW, then owned by RKO General Broadcasting, and not to forget, KAKC in Tulsa.

The Big 13 was obviously because KYNO was at 1300 kHz. The "KY NO Number One" jingle was obviously touting its #1 status. When they dropped out of #1 the jingle was changed to just the callsign sing, just like KFRC and KSTN. Later Bill Drake and/or Gene Chenault (I forget which or both) bought KRTH (K-Earth 101) and again used the famous jingle.

 

[LKellerIII]

I did see some airchecks that Charlie Van Dyke bounced between RKO/Boss Drake Stations like WRKO, KHJ and CKLW in the 1970's before he became the Local TV News Voiceover artist and the VO for KRTH in the 1980's- Present. But also I noticed that KYNO Fresno in 1966 had the "Real Pete McNeil Show" At first I thought it was rip-off of Real Don Steele of 93KHJ and K-Earth 101 but they were real. But the Jingle that KYNO had was "The Big 13" based off the "Big 610" theme from KFRC and "KY-NO Number one" that was later used on the "K-Earth 101" jingle.

Gene Chenault called Bill Drake after he left KYA in SF and offered him a consulting job for his KYNO in Fresno and Knox LaRue's KSTN in Stockton. Drake refined the format and KYNO shot to #1 in one ratings book, something unheard of at the time.

Wanting to duplicate the format nationwide, he consulted a bunch of stations. Because of this desire to duplicate his success, the jingles were exactly the same, except for slight adjustment for call letter tempos -- KSTN, KYNO, 93KHJ, KFRC, WRKO, KATC, KGB, WOR-FM, WHBQ, and even Windsor Ontario's CKLW, then owned by RKO General Broadcasting, and not to forget, KAKC in Tulsa.

The Big 13 was obviously because KYNO was at 1300 kHz. The "KY NO Number One" jingle was obviously touting its #1 status. When they dropped out of #1 the jingle was changed to just the callsign sing, just like KFRC and KSTN. Later Bill Drake and/or Gene Chenault (I forget which or both) bought KRTH (K-Earth 101) and again used the famous jingle.

Could be, but I remember that all the call-letters-that-made-words stations had the "____number one" jingle. i guess all of them could have been rated #1 in their markets...makes sense I guess, given the success of the Drake format. Again, the jingles were always at least 4 syllables (musical notes), so something more than "Ky-no" was required.

The CKLW version was the longest: "The Big 8 CKLW." I know people who grew up in the Detroit area, and they say that the kids always referred to the station as "C-K."

I read a posting from a programmer some time ago, and he said that 3 syllables or more (whether spoken or sung) sound better to the ear. That's why all those "Kiss" stations are practically always "Kiss F-M." Along those lines, I recall that KIIS in Los Angeles started as an AM station in the early 70s. Though the imaging and advertising always promoted the "Kiss" angle (billboards with huge picture of lips, or man and woman kissing, etc.), the jocks and jingles always said "K-I-I-S" or 'K-double-I-S."

Maybe that's why the jocks at 96.5 practically always say "K-O-I-T," and only rarely "Coit."

 

[recto101]

I did see some airchecks that Charlie Van Dyke bounced between RKO/Boss Drake Stations like WRKO, KHJ and CKLW in the 1970's before he became the Local TV News Voiceover artist and the VO for KRTH in the 1980's- Present. But also I noticed that KYNO Fresno in 1966 had the "Real Pete McNeil Show" At first I thought it was rip-off of Real Don Steele of 93KHJ and K-Earth 101 but they were real. But the Jingle that KYNO had was "The Big 13" based off the "Big 610" theme from KFRC and "KY-NO Number one" that was later used on the "K-Earth 101" jingle.

Gene Chenault called Bill Drake after he left KYA in SF and offered him a consulting job for his KYNO in Fresno and Knox LaRue's KSTN in Stockton. Drake refined the format and KYNO shot to #1 in one ratings book, something unheard of at the time.

Wanting to duplicate the format nationwide, he consulted a bunch of stations. Because of this desire to duplicate his success, the jingles were exactly the same, except for slight adjustment for call letter tempos -- KSTN, KYNO, 93KHJ, KFRC, WRKO, KATC, KGB, WOR-FM, WHBQ, and even Windsor Ontario's CKLW, then owned by RKO General Broadcasting, and not to forget, KAKC in Tulsa.

The Big 13 was obviously because KYNO was at 1300 kHz. The "KY NO Number One" jingle was obviously touting its #1 status. When they dropped out of #1 the jingle was changed to just the callsign sing, just like KFRC and KSTN. Later Bill Drake and/or Gene Chenault (I forget which or both) bought KRTH (K-Earth 101) and again used the famous jingle.

Could be, but I remember that all the call-letters-that-made-words stations had the "____number one" jingle. i guess all of them could have been rated #1 in their markets...makes sense I guess, given the success of the Drake format. Again, the jingles were always at least 4 syllables (musical notes), so something more than "Ky-no" was required.

The CKLW version was the longest: "The Big 8 CKLW." I know people who grew up in the Detroit area, and they say that the kids always referred to the station as "C-K."

I read a posting from a programmer some time ago, and he said that 3 syllables or more (whether spoken or sung) sound better to the ear. That's why all those "Kiss" stations are practically always "Kiss F-M." Along those lines, I recall that KIIS in Los Angeles started as an AM station in the early 70s. Though the imaging and advertising always promoted the "Kiss" angle (billboards with huge picture of lips, or man and woman kissing, etc.), the jocks and jingles always said "K-I-I-S" or 'K-double-I-S."

Maybe that's why the jocks at 96.5 practically always say "K-O-I-T," and only rarely "Coit."

I noticed when KISS (KIIS-FM 102.7) 1150 AM is used in LA its Top40/CHR. But When KISS FM was used on KKIS 92.1/990am Diablo Valley it was used as a Hot AC Station in the 1980's and 1990's.
KISQ San Francisco uses the KISS-FM Brand to replicate the CHR and R&B format from the 1970's-1990's that was used on KFRC and KMEL.

 

[LKellerIII]

If you google 'Kiss-FM," you'll get about two dozen hits from various stations nationwide. It's a very popular "brand." Most are CHR, most use "Kiss-FM," though there are some exceptions ("Kiss 108," "96.1 Kiss," etc.) The majority are owned by Clear Channel and use the same logo as KIIS (Los Angeles), but there are exceptions there, as well.

 

[michael hagerty]

Quick inputs:

Osh got the Blore sequence off. KEWB didn't flip until 18 months after KFWB (L.A. first, then SF, as it would be with KHJ and KFRC in '65-'66).

I don't think KYA was using "The Boss of the Bay" as late as '66, but they were using it before Bill Drake. It's in evidence on the Jim Stagg aircheck on Reelradio from April 14, 1961. Drake didn't arrive at KYA until October 1961.

KAFY, KDON and KENO weren't Drake stations. They tried to sound like it, but they weren't.

There are only so many ways to sing a jingle, especially when you're only singing call letters or call letters and dial position. "KY-NO number one" is five syllables. "93/KHJ" and "Six-Ten KFRC" are six. "One-Thir-Ty-Six-KGB" is seven. And "KFRC" alone is four.

"Bounced around" is selling what Charlie (and other RKO/Drake jocks) did very short. They were valuable air talents that knew the Drake philosophy and were moved into places where Drake thought they could do the most good.

For Van Dyke, his first Drake/RKO gig was middays at CKLW. Then mornings at KFRC, followed by Program Director at KGB, and (just as Willett Brown was preparing to end his consulting agreement with Drake) middays at KHJ. He got an offer he couldn't refuse (mornings at WLS), but a year later, came back to KHJ to do mornings there.

Bobby Ocean? KYNO to KGB, a brief shot across town at KCBQ, back to KGB, and off to KFRC shortly after Brown ended the deal with Drake. And then on to KHJ (but that was after Drake)...and (ultimately) back to KFRC.

Mark Elliott...CKLW, KFRC, KHJ.....we could do a whole list here. And it would include program directors too. Drake built a team of trusted pros and they did great things.

 

[recto101]

Quick inputs:

Osh got the Blore sequence off. KEWB didn't flip until 18 months after KFWB (L.A. first, then SF, as it would be with KHJ and KFRC in '65-'66).

I don't think KYA was using "The Boss of the Bay" as late as '66, but they were using it before Bill Drake. It's in evidence on the Jim Stagg aircheck on Reelradio from April 14, 1961. Drake didn't arrive at KYA until October 1961.

KAFY, KDON and KENO weren't Drake stations. They tried to sound like it, but they weren't.

There are only so many ways to sing a jingle, especially when you're only singing call letters or call letters and dial position. "KY-NO number one" is five syllables. "93/KHJ" and "Six-Ten KFRC" are six. "One-Thir-Ty-Six-KGB" is seven. And "KFRC" alone is four.

"Bounced around" is selling what Charlie (and other RKO/Drake jocks) did very short. They were valuable air talents that knew the Drake philosophy and were moved into places where Drake thought they could do the most good.

For Van Dyke, his first Drake/RKO gig was middays at CKLW. Then mornings at KFRC, followed by Program Director at KGB, and (just as Willett Brown was preparing to end his consulting agreement with Drake) middays at KHJ. He got an offer he couldn't refuse (mornings at WLS), but a year later, came back to KHJ to do mornings there.

Bobby Ocean? KYNO to KGB, a brief shot across town at KCBQ, back to KGB, and off to KFRC shortly after Brown ended the deal with Drake. And then on to KHJ (but that was after Drake)...and (ultimately) back to KFRC.

Mark Elliott...CKLW, KFRC, KHJ.....we could do a whole list here. And it would include program directors too. Drake built a team of trusted pros and they did great things.

I know that Dr. Don Rose stayed at one Drake Station like KFRC mainly because he was seen as a popular personality that would make one Boss Station different from another. But I need to look for a list where Boss Jocks stayed at one Drake top 40 station besides Dr. Don Rose.

 

[MsMusicRadio]

BOSS RULES!---------------------oops, guess "rules" is gone too

 

[LKellerIII]

Quick inputs:

Osh got the Blore sequence off. KEWB didn't flip until 18 months after KFWB (L.A. first, then SF, as it would be with KHJ and KFRC in '65-'66).

I don't think KYA was using "The Boss of the Bay" as late as '66, but they were using it before Bill Drake. It's in evidence on the Jim Stagg aircheck on Reelradio from April 14, 1961. Drake didn't arrive at KYA until October 1961.

KAFY, KDON and KENO weren't Drake stations. They tried to sound like it, but they weren't.

There are only so many ways to sing a jingle, especially when you're only singing call letters or call letters and dial position. "KY-NO number one" is five syllables. "93/KHJ" and "Six-Ten KFRC" are six. "One-Thir-Ty-Six-KGB" is seven. And "KFRC" alone is four.

"Bounced around" is selling what Charlie (and other RKO/Drake jocks) did very short. They were valuable air talents that knew the Drake philosophy and were moved into places where Drake thought they could do the most good.

For Van Dyke, his first Drake/RKO gig was middays at CKLW. Then mornings at KFRC, followed by Program Director at KGB, and (just as Willett Brown was preparing to end his consulting agreement with Drake) middays at KHJ. He got an offer he couldn't refuse (mornings at WLS), but a year later, came back to KHJ to do mornings there.

Bobby Ocean? KYNO to KGB, a brief shot across town at KCBQ, back to KGB, and off to KFRC shortly after Brown ended the deal with Drake. And then on to KHJ (but that was after Drake)...and (ultimately) back to KFRC.

Mark Elliott...CKLW, KFRC, KHJ.....we could do a whole list here. And it would include program directors too. Drake built a team of trusted pros and they did great things.

I know that Dr. Don Rose stayed at one Drake Station like KFRC mainly because he was seen as a popular personality that would make one Boss Station different from another. But I need to look for a list where Boss Jocks stayed at one Drake top 40 station besides Dr. Don Rose.

Recto - Dr. Don was hired by KFRC after RKO General stopped using Bill Drake as a consultant, so Rose never worked at a "Drake station," as far as I know. Dr. Don stayed with KFRC after it became Magic 61, was later the morning personality on K-101 (after James Gabbert sold it, I believe), and then owned his own station in Concord - I believe it was KKIS, which you mentioned earlier. I can only speculate why Dr. Don stayed in the Bay Area after KFRC - I would assume it was because he liked it here, and didn't need to move anywhere to support his family - despite his wacky on-air personality, he was the kind of conservative and careful man who probably saved up his substantial RKO salary for a "rainy day," but I'm just speculating.

It doesn't quite fit your requirements, but both Robert W. Morgan and The Real Don Steele stayed in LA for the most part, though they worked different Drake stations - both became famous on KHJ, then worked for Drake at K-100 (KIQQ) and KRTH. In between, Morgan went to Chicago briefly, and worked at KMPC, the LA Golden West station in that era, sister station to KSFO. Between Drake gigs, Steele worked at "Ten-Q" (KTNQ - 1020 AM) and KRLA/1110 AM.

Most of the other Boss Jocks probably did move from city to city, like Bobby Ocean, Frank Terry (KHJ, then KNEW country music in the Bay Area), and Bobby Mitchell (KYA), who moved to LA to become Bobby Tripp before his untimely death. Mark Elliot (KFRC, then KHJ) became a major voice over guy, primarily doing movie trailers for Disney. Gary Mack (KHJ - real name Gary McDowell), became a distinguished News Radio broadcaster in the South, I believe. In one of the more weird radio ironies, I've read that the real name of Byron MacGregor (pompous and dramatic news anchor at Drake's CKLW) was Gary Mack. There's a third Gary Mack who is a JFK assassination expert, and runs the museum at the site of the Texas School Book Depository (where Lee Harvey Oswald reportedly leveled his rifle at Kennedy).

Anyway, I ramble...Given how DJs change names and move around from market to market, this subject could go on forever...

 

[michael hagerty]

I know that Dr. Don Rose stayed at one Drake Station like KFRC mainly because he was seen as a popular personality that would make one Boss Station different from another. But I need to look for a list where Boss Jocks stayed at one Drake top 40 station besides Dr. Don Rose.

As Llew notes, Dr. Don got to KFRC six months after Bill Drake left RKO. But there are examples of longevity:

Johnny Williams: 9 years at KHJ.
The Real Don Steele: 8 years at KHJ.
Bill Wade: 6 years at KHJ.
Dale Dorman: 10 years at WRKO.

But you need to remember where the Drake stations were. There were stations in small cities (Stockton, Fresno, Tulsa), medium markets (Memphis, San Diego), large markets (Boston, Detroit, San Francisco) and major markets (New York and L.A.).

It's like baseball, in a way...jocks at one of the farm clubs hoping they'll get called up to the majors...maybe even traded to the Yankees.

Dale Dorman went from KYNO to KFRC to WRKO in three years. That wasn't bouncing around...that was career advancement. Same with Eric Chase...KYNO to KGB to KFRC to Drake's K-100 in four years. And once in L.A., Eric was in afternoon drive for 5 years.

Jim Carson...KGB to KFRC to KHJ to K-100 in 5 years. And he stayed at K-100 for 15 years.

 

[michael hagerty]

As for voicetracking, while the RKO stations never did it, I know of at least two old-line MOR stations that did.

At KMPC in Los Angeles, Dick Whittinghill rarely had fill-ins unless he was sick on no notice. If it was a planned vacation, he'd pre-record his shows...and he'd actually mention on the air that he was taping the following week's shows.

Whit may have been afraid to let anyone fill in on a regular basis. After four years as the #1 morning man in town, he wound up running second to Bob Crane, who arrived at rival KNX in 1956. From 1962 on, most of the personalities hired to do other shifts at KMPC were morning men who'd been competing with Whittinghill (Gary Owens from KFWB, Geoff Edwards from KFI, Wink Martindale from KFWB via KGIL, Sonny Melendrez from KIIS, Dave Hull from KRLA via KFI and KGBS and, ultimately, Robert W. Morgan, who replaced Whit in 1979. Whit, then age 66, said he was forced out). In fact, in 1972 and '73, Crane himself became Whittinghill's designated sub...but he had no interest in abandoning acting to return to radio.

Recently, I heard what I thought would be an unscoped of Lohman and Barkley on KFI in 1970. It turned out to be a voicetrack for a Saturday show...all three hours. Their method was interesting. Except for records and the news, everything was on the tape....jingles, commercials, promos and legal IDs....with about 8 seconds of blank tape where the records and newscasts would go. And I'm sure it took a bit of math, but they gave accurate timechecks throughout...knowing what the records would be.

Apparently, Lohman and Barkley did their Saturday shows this way for the better part of 10 years, pre-taping them Thursday mornings after their live morning show.

I'm surprised they didn't just track their bits and let the engineer add the IDs, spots and promos live along with the records (it would have been more of a time-saver) or put it all on tape, music included, news excepted (which was KMPC's method). The way they did it took about two hours to record a three-hour show. They could have shaved another hour off by having the IDs, spots and promos added live on Saturday.

Of course, tracking a three-hour show today takes about five minutes.

And sounds like it.

 

[LKellerIII]

KRLA tried voice-tracking for a couple of years (about 67-68) outside of drive times, which stayed live. The VTed jocks (Johnny Hayes in afternoons - later replaced by Roy Elwell ,and Reb Foster at night) would record the songs with intros or outros, and also record short talky segments that would be played a few times an hour. There were pre-recorded time checks, too. When the system ran well, it was hard to tell it wasn't live, but I figured it out fairly quickly because the song intros or outros were recorded once for each hit, and stayed the same for weeks or months, as long as the song was on the Top 40. After the 5th time you heard the same intro, you started to get a sense of deja-vu, and by the 10th time you could say it from memory before the jock did.

Also, whatever primitive system they used (I imagine huge banks of reel-to-reel tapes run by a hulking main-frame computer to keep the tapes in proper sequence) would go down occasionally, and repeat a song multiple times, or the system would go down entirely, leaving minutes of dead air. Where the board-op was during these f*** ups I have no idea- probably out in some Pasadena alley smoking a joint.

All this was kind of pathetic given that their competition was Drake's KHJ, and KRLA went back to 24/7 live about 1969.

Michael, if you recall, Drake's "Hit Parade" stations (including KHJ-FM) were automated, and didn't try to sound live - but also had time-checks.

 

[DavidKaye]

Recto - Dr. Don was hired by KFRC after RKO General stopped using Bill Drake as a consultant, so Rose never worked at a "Drake station," as far as I know. Dr. Don stayed with KFRC after it became Magic 61, was later the morning personality on K-101 (after James Gabbert sold it, I believe), and then owned his own station in Concord - I believe it was KKIS, which you mentioned earlier. I can only speculate why Dr. Don stayed in the Bay Area after KFRC - I would assume it was because he liked it here, and didn't need to move anywhere to support his family - despite his wacky on-air personality, he was the kind of conservative and careful man who probably saved up his substantial RKO salary for a "rainy day," but I'm just speculating.

You're right in so many ways. Don Rose told me that he was hired by Paul Drew at KFRC and wasn't part of the Drake era. He also said that he was brought in specifically as a morning personality and that Drew's philosophy was to allow the DJs much more freedom to shine than Drake would ever allow. Indeed, KFRC flourished during that era and clearly distinguished itself from KHJ, which, except for jingles, didn't sound like KFRC much at all by then. (Thank goodness.)

I also asked him about Magic 61 and why he left. He said that he hated the music and that he felt he was part of a museum instead of a functioning radio station, which is why he went to KIOI. After his heart attack (on air I think it was), he took some time out and then bought KKIS, I believe with his son, Jay. But, well, being a top 40 morning personality on an AM in Pittsburg just couldn't cut it. He lost a lot of money on that venture, and finally retired.

 

[michael hagerty]

Michael, if you recall, Drake's "Hit Parade" stations (including KHJ-FM) were automated, and didn't try to sound live - but also had time-checks.

That's right, Llew. I've heard a couple of "Hit Parade" airchecks from KHJ-FM recently and they actually sound pretty good. The tracks tend to match the tempo and intensity of the music. The biggest giveaway that it's canned was that Drake used different announcers and sometimes you'd hear three different voices back-announcing music in the hour.

I had the opportunity to work for three stations where there was automation (KSLY, San Luis Obispo, where our FM was an automated Beautiful Music...KIOQ, Bishop, which was automated except for my live morning show and KUKI, Ukiah, where our FM was an automated Drake-Chenault Country station), and timechecks were really pretty easy. Two cart decks...one with a cart containing timechecks with odd minutes ("It's 12:01." "It's 12:03." "It's 12:05.") and one with a cart containing timechecks with even minutes ("It's 12:00." "It's 12:02." "It's 12:04.").

Each time a minute passed, the cart containing that minute would advance one track off-air, controlled by the automation clock. So when it became 12:01, the "even" cart would cue up to the "It's 12:02" announcement. If it didn't get used, as soon as it became 12:03, it would cue to the "It's 12:04" announcement. Splitting the carts guaranteed that the automation system wouldn't try to play a time check while it was advancing to the next cut.

If you took the time and the care to match the voices on the music reels and the timechecks, you could actually make a station that didn't scream "automated". It would never be as good as great live jocks, but it could sound a lot better than most people ever attempted to make it sound.

 

[DavidKaye]

If you took the time and the care to match the voices on the music reels and the timechecks, you could actually make a station that didn't scream "automated". It would never be as good as great live jocks, but it could sound a lot better than most people ever attempted to make it sound.

Another way of doing it was simply to plot out the time breaks. KOIT 93.3 and KCBS-FM 98.9 did this at various points in their histories. The trouble was that if a song failed to play, the time check would be off, but as I remember it got corrected at the top of the next hour. I'm not sure how they managed to plot out the timing given that automation was still fairly primitive at that time. Bill Keffury would know...

 

[recto101]

http://www.khjradio.com/

When did American Samoa's 93KHJ get a permit from either Liebmann Broadcasting the owners of 930 KHJ AM Los Angeles and CBS KRTH K-Earth 101.1 the with the Intellectual property of Boss Radio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KHJ_(AM)

http://www.wkhj.com/
http://www.khj.ca/
The Other KHJ's like CKHJ in Canada resembles the 1980's when 93KHJ LA went Country.
the WKHJ in Maryland is HotAC like KKIQ, KUIC, KKIS and KKDV here in Northern California.

 

[recto101]

http://www.khjradio.com/

When did American Samoa's 93KHJ get a permit from either Liebmann Broadcasting the owners of 930 KHJ AM Los Angeles and CBS KRTH K-Earth 101.1 the owners with the Intellectual property of Boss Radio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KHJ_(AM)

http://www.wkhj.com/
http://www.khj.ca/
The Other KHJ's like CKHJ in Canada resembles the 1980's when 93KHJ LA went Country.
the WKHJ in Maryland is HotAC like KKIQ, KUIC, KKIS and KKDV are here in Northern California.

OK another Boss Jocks that went to one Boss Station are Jackson Armstrong who went to KFRC 610 in 1982-1983 before going to CBS 93.1 KKHR in 1984 and Jack Friday who had one stint at KFRC 610 in the 1970's before going to KOIT, KYUU, KBLX and the VO of KOFY-TV 20 in the 1980's and 1990's before going to KFRC again in 2000 to replace Sylvia Chacon 7-10pm shift? who went to Star 101.3. and then Friday left San Francisco for Philadelphia to be a DJ there and then Alaska to do a radio show there.

 

[michael hagerty]

http://www.khjradio.com/

When did American Samoa's 93KHJ get a permit from either Liebmann Broadcasting the owners of 930 KHJ AM Los Angeles and CBS KRTH K-Earth 101.1 the with the Intellectual property of Boss Radio.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KHJ_(AM)

http://www.wkhj.com/
http://www.khj.ca/
The Other KHJ's like CKHJ in Canada resembles the 1980's when 93KHJ LA went Country.
the WKHJ in Maryland is HotAC like KKIQ, KUIC, KKIS and KKDV here in Northern California.

No permit needed. Lieberman bought what was then KRTH-AM and went Spanish with it. While they restored the KHJ call letters (after a decade as KKHJ), they have never marketed themselves as "93/KHJ", and there is no intellectual property.

KRTH-FM's current owner, CBS, has no intellectual property claim to 93/KHJ, either. The two stations have been under separate ownership for more than 20 years. If a station called themselves "K-Earth", they'd have a case.

 

[michael hagerty]

OK another Boss Jocks that went to one Boss Station are Jackson Armstrong who went to KFRC 610 in 1982-1983 before going to CBS 93.1 KKHR in 1984 and Jack Friday who had one stint at KFRC 610 in the 1970's before going to KOIT, KYUU, KBLX and the VO of KOFY-TV 20 in the 1980's and 1990's before going to KFRC again in 2000 to replace Sylvia Chacon 7-10pm shift? who went to Star 101.3. and then Friday left San Francisco for Philadelphia to be a DJ there and then Alaska to do a radio show there.

Not sure I get your point. Armstrong was at KFRC almost 10 years after Drake's departure from RKO. Jack Friday was near the end of the Drake era and stayed for a few months after.

If you're trying for a list of jocks who only worked at one of the RKO stations, that's actually a pretty big list. A lot of jocks simply never made the grade to move up the chain (which happened less often after Drake's departure, anyway) and others chose opportunities with other stations.

A partial list of jocks whose only RKO gig was at KFRC:

Mike Phillips
Glenn Adams
Royce Johnson
Bobby Dale
Joe Conrad
Jack Friday
Dr. Don Rose
Kevin McCarthy
Citizen Bill
Don Sainte-Johnn
Chuck Buell
John Mack Flanagan
Big Tom Parker
Robin Bailey
Dave Sholin (his only RKO jock gigs were at KFRC)
Jackson Armstrong


There are probably a dozen or so more at KFRC alone and long lists from the other RKO stations, too.

Also: The term "Boss Jock" specifically applies to KHJ during the Drake era (1965-1973).

 

[recto101]

OK another Boss Jocks that went to one Boss Station are Jackson Armstrong who went to KFRC 610 in 1982-1983 before going to CBS 93.1 KKHR in 1984 and Jack Friday who had one stint at KFRC 610 in the 1970's before going to KOIT, KYUU, KBLX and the VO of KOFY-TV 20 in the 1980's and 1990's before going to KFRC again in 2000 to replace Sylvia Chacon 7-10pm shift? who went to Star 101.3. and then Friday left San Francisco for Philadelphia to be a DJ there and then Alaska to do a radio show there.

Not sure I get your point. Armstrong was at KFRC almost 10 years after Drake's departure from RKO. Jack Friday was near the end of the Drake era and stayed for a few months after.

If you're trying for a list of jocks who only worked at one of the RKO stations, that's actually a pretty big list. A lot of jocks simply never made the grade to move up the chain (which happened less often after Drake's departure, anyway) and others chose opportunities with other stations.

A partial list of jocks whose only RKO gig was at KFRC:

Mike Phillips
Glenn Adams
Royce Johnson
Bobby Dale
Joe Conrad
Jack Friday
Dr. Don Rose
Kevin McCarthy
Citizen Bill
Don Sainte-Johnn
Chuck Buell
John Mack Flanagan
Big Tom Parker
Robin Bailey
Dave Sholin (his only RKO jock gigs were at KFRC)
Jackson Armstrong


There are probably a dozen or so more at KFRC alone and long lists from the other RKO stations, too.

Also: The term "Boss Jock" specifically applies to KHJ during the Drake era (1965-1973).

I was looking for DJ's that only went to RKO Top 40 CHR or Oldies station from KHJ, CKLW, KRTH, WOR-FM, & WRKO