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KFSH Anaheim/Los Angeles music change discovered

> secular artists that were at one time on christian radio:
>
> U2
> simple minds
> mr mister
> reo speedwagon (1996)--building the bridge
> journey (also 1996)
> van morrison
> cliff richards
> amy grant :)
> kathy lee gifford
> alice cooper (way fm 1994)
> pod
>
>
>
Don't forget Paul Davis "Do Right", then 4Him covered that song.
 
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> Is spinning remakes really that common in CCM stations other
> than the Salem ones? I don't hear them on EMF, or WBGL or
> the christian college stations I listen to.

Excuse me but there are remakes on EMF, perhaps you don't recognize them. Also EMF plays the stuffin' out of Mark Farner (from America), who is a Christian but still tours with America. They have their California favorites.
 
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> Links wrote:
> "In regards to creating better discussions, most
> professionals will not post for competitive and employment
> reasons. I don't believe that group of people will be
> available for better discussions."

From a professional, are you one?
>
 
"The host threw in "Carry on Wayward Son" by Kansas one night."
Read about Kansas, They were very Spiritual - John Elefante sang "Dust In The Wind". Also Rachel Rachel redid "Carry On Wayward Son" and everyone played it.
 
>
> "This happened to me every time I played a "secular" song
> that had scriptural content or intent. If the artists had a
> good lifestyle, and the lyrics fit, I played it. You
> wouldn't believe the hatred I got from some dogmatic people
> over it.

You are pretty angry and negative. I heard the orginal Kryie Eleison on my local CCM station many years, and since then have played the redo by A cappella and East to West. (East to West was great but then Jay DeMarcus became part of Rascal Flatts.)
 
mark farner

was in grand funk..not america..dan peek was in america...<P ID="signature">______________
note to tvland...bring back wkrp!!!</P>
 
kansas band info.....

> "The host threw in "Carry on Wayward Son" by Kansas one
> night."
> Read about Kansas, They were very Spiritual - John Elefante
> sang "Dust In The Wind". Also Rachel Rachel redid "Carry On
> Wayward Son" and everyone played it.
>
??? john elefante was in kansas for 2 albums.vinyl confessions and drastic measures..steve walsh sang dust in the wind...where are you people getting this info??i also played rachel rachel..<P ID="signature">______________
note to tvland...bring back wkrp!!!</P>
 
Re: kansas band info.....

> > "The host threw in "Carry on Wayward Son" by Kansas one
> > night."
> > Read about Kansas, They were very Spiritual - John
> Elefante
> > sang "Dust In The Wind". Also Rachel Rachel redid "Carry
> On
> > Wayward Son" and everyone played it.
> >
> ??? john elefante was in kansas for 2 albums.vinyl
> confessions and drastic measures..steve walsh sang dust in
> the wind...where are you people getting this info??i also
> played rachel rachel..

Well "you people" (me) got that information from quite a few Kansas bios and their website.

>
 
Re: mark farner

> was in grand funk..not america..dan peek was in america...
>
I said "America" but I was thinking "Grand Funk". Consider the lateness of the hour I posted.
 
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> > Is spinning remakes really that common in CCM stations
> other
> > than the Salem ones? I don't hear them on EMF, or WBGL or
>
> > the christian college stations I listen to.
>
> Excuse me but there are remakes on EMF, perhaps you don't
> recognize them. Also EMF plays the stuffin' out of Mark
> Farner (from America), who is a Christian but still tours
> with America. They have their California favorites.
>
I must not recognize them I like did with the old chicago fish. I heard those remakes and it was like "pull over and puke". What are the exact remakes emf plays? In particular original secular songs, remade by christians.
 
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> > Links wrote:
> > "In regards to creating better discussions, most
> > professionals will not post for competitive and
> employment
> > reasons. I don't believe that group of people will be
> > available for better discussions."
>
> From a professional, are you one?
> >
>
If your posting this to me but under a wrong heading. I'll answer you.
I don't currently work in radio and have not for more than 15 years.
I don't consider myself a so "professional".

I don't understand your post. My post from up above is accurate to my feelings from lurking on these boards for a long time. Professionals will not consistently post and contribute for "business" reasons.

They will consistently appear to do damage control to protect their interests. You can count on them for that.

But to put forth new ideas and discussion I rarely see it. Maybe you are the exception.
 
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> Excuse me but there are remakes on EMF, perhaps you don't
> recognize them.

Nowhere near the number most Salem stations play.



> Also EMF plays the stuffin' out of Mark Farner...
>

I think you've posted this before (somebody has).

I asked, "For example...?"

I don't think I ever saw a reply.
 
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>>
> I think you've posted this before (somebody has).
>
I only posted on this subject last night so I don't know what you mean.
 
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Links wrote:
"In regards to creating better discussions, mostprofessionals will not post for competitive and employment reasons. I don't believe that group of people will be available for better discussions..... Professionals will not consistently post and contribute for "business" reasons. But to put forth new ideas and discussion I rarely see it. Maybe you are the exception."

Broad stroke of the brush on that one.

Some pros are posting to hone their craft, network their knowledge, and grow in their trade... I'm not seeing evidence of "professionals won't post for competitive and employment reasons"... I'd say that is an assumption.


We're not talking trade secrets, I'm simply yearning for more than topics that circle and circle and circle, like... well... this conversation.


<P ID="signature">______________
RADIOELIZABETH
Pleasant, Passionate, Persuasive
www.radioelizabeth.com</P>
 
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> Links wrote:
> "In regards to creating better discussions,
> mostprofessionals will not post for competitive and
> employment reasons. I don't believe that group of people
> will be available for better discussions.....
> Professionals will not consistently post and contribute for
> "business" reasons. But to put forth new ideas and
> discussion I rarely see it. Maybe you are the exception."
>
> Broad stroke of the brush on that one.
>
Let me narrow it down for you. Salem is the "number one provider of religious broadcasting" in America. Why would you ever want to post something negative about any of their products if you need to gain consistent employment in christian radio? Even if you feel in your opinion they are doing something poorly? Most rational "professionals" will not post that opinion. That is why you need diverse participation on forums. I am not constrained by economics in stating my opinon. Discouraging specific kinds of posts(within the moderators limits) is not positive IMO. Perhaps that is not what you were doing.

I may perhaps want the same thing as you do in regards to quality of the discussions. I hope to see them on this board.
 
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Radio Elizabeth said:"Some pros are posting to hone their craft, network their knowledge, and grow in their trade... I'm not seeing evidence of "professionals won't post for competitive and employment reasons"... I'd say that is an assumption."



I would agree with that statement.
 
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Links wrote:
"Salem is the "number one provider of religious broadcasting" in America. Why would you ever want to post something negative about any of their products if you need to gain consistent employment in christian radio? Even if you feel in your opinion they are doing something poorly? Most rational "professionals" will not post that opinion."

I disagree. Professionals should and will voice educated opinions in order to investigate and understand strategies. And I don't think that is a threat to a company at all. You don't get to be #1 without a teachable spirit, great understanding, good ears, and a willingness to be better than you are today.

But the posts that usually turn up here are not educated opinions or even honest desires to challenge and grow. For the most part, the posts slam Salem for not being "Jesus enough" or "Christian enough". The thread that began the debate was that because those particular sentiments have been expressed on these boards, maybe that is evidence that Salem ought to change the way they do things. That isn't even strong anecdotal research to put it mildly.

"I am not constrained by economics in stating my opinon."

True, a good professional will usually season with salt and learn diplomacy early on...some of us direct more abrasive personalities don't fair well everywhere (every great messenger needs their "John the Baptist"). But to imply that fear is what is keeping the pros out, I think is naive.

"Discouraging specific kinds of posts(within the moderators limits) is not positive IMO"

Again, my plea is for more PRODUCTIVE posts. Positive communication over negative critism that sometimes seems no more than an opportunity for some to get their opinions "broadcast" somewhere.

It's not everyone's desire...but yes, it is most certainly mine.

e<P ID="signature">______________
RADIOELIZABETH
Pleasant, Passionate, Persuasive
www.radioelizabeth.com</P>
 
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> Thank you for the reply. I admire you for being willing to post on a public board in relation to your work. And I hope that will let to better discussions about this topic of "religious radio".

I admit that I will not post publicly in regards to the work that I do to support my family. I don't think its a wise idea. Best Wishes
 
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