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Kim & Dean are out at WKDF, is a new format on the way?

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radiodx

Kim and Dean were let go last Thursday from 103.3 WKDF. Justin is now in 3-7pm. They were told their contract would not be renewed.

Is a new format coming soon? What would work best in Nashville? Will the Titans stay on 103.3 or move to 104.5 The Zone? Could the Zone move to 103.3's bigger signal?

Citadel is doing nothing with the station to show they plan on keeping up the three way fight with WSM-FM and WSIX.
 
Could be News Talk. Could 103 be the landing place for Gill? Rick & Bubbe could be back, They could also bring back Triple H. I think trere are a lot of posibilities if WKDF goes talk. But will they?
 
I don't see a change. 'KDF just inked a new nationally syndicated show to their weekend line-up. You don't do that if you're going to change.
 
Steve Gill, as we already know, will do a show syndicated through TRN and also air on WLAC.

It's unlikely Hallerin Hilton Hill will be back on the air in Nashville. That was an experiment that wasn't the big success they had hoped.

I keep hearing all the speculation about Rick & Bubba but have heard nothing concrete about their return. Not that it affects me--I know they have a loyal following but their personas and humor don't appeal to me.
 
from mr. old guy:

Could be News Talk. Could 103 be the landing place for Gill? Rick & Bubba could be back.

all of that is insane! with all of the current news talk and sports talk stations in town do you actually think another one would come along? gill on wlac is old news, just read prior post. did you just pull these random statements from the air?rick and bubba have people on their staff who are part time rumor starters. i think you might be one of them and throw in some other rumors to throw us off.

the bigger news here should be john king.
 
dolphin said:
gill on wlac is old news... the bigger news here should be john king.
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Dolphin, you chide old guy (excuse me, mr. old guy) for bringing up the "old news" about Gill, then you bring up John King, whose leaving is much older news. Do you have some new news about King, or are you bringing up a different John King, or were you trying to make a point that wasn't quite clear... please explain. Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant to get across with your statement.

It is possible that R&B could come back as a morning show for a station that played music the rest of the day -- wouldn't have to be talk. But there is room for another talk station in town, as there are several popular talkers without clearance here, and soon to be another in Glen Beck. I doubt, though, that it would show up on a major FM frequency. I believe that if, in addition, Citadel owned an AM or a weaker FM here, they would have already flipped it to talk.

Oh, and radiodx, you say Citadel is doing nothing with 103? Well, not renewing the contract of your afternoon drive team is definitely doing something...
 
john king now working for cromwell stations in tn, ky, il and ind. bob reich is out. king will put in place the stations first real gm, hopefully one that's not a crook. look for major changes.
 
dolphin said:
john king now working for cromwell stations in tn, ky, il and ind. bob reich is out. king will put in place the stations first real gm, hopefully one that's not a crook. look for major changes.
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You are so right, that is REAL news! Thanks for expounding...
 
radiodx said:
Kim and Dean were let go last Thursday from 103.3 WKDF. Justin is now in 3-7pm. They were told their contract would not be renewed. Citadel is doing nothing with the station to show they plan on keeping up the three way fight with WSM-FM and WSIX.
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Maybe they weren't renewed as a cost-cutting measure. During their quarterly report today, Nashville was cited as a "soft" market for Citadel for the second quarter in a row.
 
In all seriousness, were did you see/hear about this on Citadel's quarterly report? They shouldn't be publically admitting that
and more importantly they shouldn't be sitting around this late in the game dazed and confused as to how to run a 100,000
watt super - signal. If it was 3,000 watts, I could understand it. This company has let down listeners and investors for
to long nationwide. Geez. They've been soft on WKDF since six months after the switched to country. Heads should have
rolled well above KDF management. I'll leave GFX out of this for now.
 
Tibbs2 said:
In all seriousness, were did you see/hear about this on Citadel's quarterly report? They shouldn't be publically admitting that
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Well, as a publically traded company, it's a matter of record. I gleaned the information from the radio industry and the business sites to which I subscribe. Check the ones to which you subscribe--but if you don't subscribe, just do a Google News search. You'll find the info.

Otherwise, I think you are being way too harsh on the the local cluster. After all, in the recent book, KDF was apparently 2nd in Country for the money demo (as reported here in another thread). Stations are constantly up and down in sales, and they have to adjust where necessary. If KDF has had to adjust (and I don't know if that is even what's going on here), it could very well be quite routine. Another way to look at it... when the afternoon duo was hired, DJs and talk bits were still riding high. Today for any music format, much of the emphasis is on the music with no DJs or limited talk. The change could very well have been made in order to compete on those terms.

For whatever listeners think, these guys didn't amass their corporate radio portfolios by being a bunch of dummies. Rest assured, if KDF needs a retooling or a reformatting, they'll get it done. They are much more unwilling to lose money than the smaller guys.
 
Now today, in Cumulus' quarterly report, they are praising results from their Nashville group, citing the Wolf as the #1 Country station in the market.
 
Jetfli --- I understand the Quarterly reports. I had this feeling that the info you heard about was more of an in-house memo
style report that got released to eyes beyond the offices on Second Avenue. I see the QTLY performance level listings as up and
down of the markets. My concern really is that WKDF has spent years trying to find itself to average avail. Turnover, failed image changes,
less than happy campers in-house and very little help from management above local's has cost the stations $100,000's if not
a million or more in potential lost revenues. I don't listen to it, or any other Country station and I will be the last to suggest it
go back to Rock (but the rumors always prevail) but for the life of me, I just don't get the extreme levels of complacency
that occur in mass corporation's re-defined versions of "great" radio. The competition is so narrow now compared to single and duo
ownership. I just think a little more focus and attention could have made the road a lot smoother for Citadel here. They've had
to spend to much and work to hard to get where they are to be considered a shining star of the company. I, like you, enjoy
a good spirited competition. It pains me to see them not believe they can be #1 and do whatever it takes. Harsh on them?
I am. I know they have the resources to be #1 --- but do they have the drive, the fire and determination? I think not.

I do have to tell you I have enjoyed being considered the underdog only to dominate in one form or another by having a better
product, marketing and having a heck of a lot of fun. I think the big corps are not better than "the little guys." They can buy
the bigger sticks and that certainly helps. But look at SCC's good run that has kept a company with only 13 stations nationwide
on top here with no one willing to do what it takes to go after them. That may change (a little - based on signal) with the
latest Venus/Buzz developments. We will see. CC probably forgets about 13 stations they own a year.

The real question on "dummies" in corporate radio is not what they have amassed. It's what they could have amassed with a better
approach to building stations instead of auto-piloting and cost cutting. But, certainly they are to be commended for some incredible
feats in ownership that any of us wish we could be a part of!
 
Tibbs2 said:
My concern really is that WKDF has spent years trying to find itself to average avail. ... but for the life of me, I just don't get the extreme levels of complacency that occur in mass corporation's re-defined versions of "great" radio. The competition is so narrow now compared to single and duo ownership. ... I know they have the resources to be #1 --- but do they have the drive, the fire and determination?
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They had a great concept at kick-off. But now the market has changed. Everyone thought Cumulus would go after the Zone with the Fan, and no one thought they could dent KDF with the Wolf. But they were sucker-punched. Now seriously, what could they do in this market that isn't already being done that wouldn't be just good, but great?

I believe duo ownership created far more, and better competition. So much now depends on corporate ROI formulas. I believe, to make their corporate model work best, Citadel could benefit by having one or two more frequencies here. I wonder how much is waiting because of the ABC buy?

Tibbs2 said:
But look at SCC's good run that has kept a company with only 13 stations nationwide on top here with no one willing to do what it takes to go after them. That may change (a little - based on signal) with the latest Venus/Buzz developments. We will see.
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SCC does what it does with a somewhat local base in three cities. While I'm expecting more from Cromwell in light of recent developments, I'm not expecting a lot. My personal feeling is that local ownership always took more pride in stations, as they had a local reputation to uphold. Corporate radio would do well to raise up local management rather than bring in outsiders.
 
"SCC does what it does with a somewhat local base in three cities. While I'm expecting more from Cromwell in light of recent developments, I'm not expecting a lot. My personal feeling is that local ownership always took more pride in stations, as they had a local reputation to uphold. Corporate radio would do well to raise up local management rather than bring in outsiders."
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That's exactly what I was trying to say, as far as local ownership.

As for Cromwell - I am sorry that I have to agree with you on that. What changes would you make to Venus? I wonder how far apart our
thinking is on that --- probably zero!
 
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