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Las Vegas KIOF group has an experimental license on 81.9. Did they not pay the site rental costs?

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Frequency1

Las Vegas Public Radio's TAPCU Project Begins To Wind Down; Federal Communications Commission Recycles The Old KIOF 97.9 FM/KVGK 97.9 FM North Las Vegas Tower Site To WP2XCQ 81.9 FM And Designates It As A Low Power FM Commercial Metropolitan Area Experimental Research & Development Facility

LAS VEGAS (LVPR) - Unconventional methods for unconventional times as the nation closes yet another chapter in radio history with the old KIOF 97.9 FM/KVGK 97.9 FM North Las Vegas, Nevada tower site. As the Las Vegas Public Radio TAPCU (Temporary Application for Provisional Commercial Use) project begins to wind down, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) takes unprecedent action in more than 25+ years in the Low Power FM industry by licensing WP2XCQ 81.9 FM and designating it as one of the nation's first metropolitan area Low Power FM commercial experimental research and development facilities.

WP2XCQ 81.9 FM was licensed on October 4, 2024 to Portsonic Communications. LLC (Nevada) under Title 47, Chapter 1, Subchapter A, Part 5 of the FCC's Rules & Regulations as a Low Power FM commercial experimental research and development radio station. The radio station is licensed for initially 15 watts on the company's Conventional Experimental broadcast license and is set to go to 1,000 Watts in the coming months serving the Las Vegas, Nevada valley as the company works directly with FCC staffers on issues it encounters. The company expects to place the new station on the air in January or February of 2025.

As the Las Vegas Public Radio TAPCU project winds down on December 31, 2024, Las Vegas Public Radio hopes to get back to business with placing it's own KIOF 90.1 FM, a 48,000 Watt noncommercial station on the air to restore the travel and tourism station destroyed during COVID-19.

Las Vegas Public Radio would like to thank all those helping out (including former President Trump, President Xi/Ambassador Wang Donghua and President Biden) to realize the badly needed changes to the Low Power FM service and to get the nation's first massive "Franken-FM" station on 81.9 FM designated in the 76.1-87.9 FM spectrum to kick off the Low Power FM commercial experimentation in a major American city after 25+ years.

Las Vegas Public Radio is helping to do it's part to reviatlize FM radio for the next generation of radio's to support the 76.1-87.9 FM spectrum as the industry continues to transition to open more spectrum (already scarce) needed for the next generation of FM radio broadcast applications. Las Vegas Public Radio is a proud supporter of our AM radio brothers and sisters who are also looking to migrate into the 76.1-87.9 FM spectrum in areas where they simply do not have options to migrate to.
 
Source of the above quoted press release: KIOF 90.1 FM

Frequency1 said:
Las Vegas Public Radio would like to thank all those helping out (including former President Trump, President Xi/Ambassador Wang Donghua and President Biden) to realize the badly needed changes to the Low Power FM service
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Huh? One of those names doesn't seem to belong...
 
That press release (?) is bizarre, almost as if it was robo-translated from another language. It doesn’t resemble the usual word salad we usually get in such announcements.

Radios that tune the extended FM band (76-88 MHz) are available, but is there going to be some education or publicity campaign to familiarize the listening public with them? And is anyone willing to buy a new radio just to receive 81.9?

I would love to have seen an extended FM band implemented in the U.S., but the time to have done that was in association with the 2009 digital TV switchover. We’re well past that, and I doubt it will ever happen, though it will be interesting to see how it works in Brazil, where a number of such stations are already on the air.

Looks like the beginnings of a website is up: Portsonic Radio

Also: Portsonic Radio
 
im confused.. that application they said was granted oct 4 for the experimental license looks real and it says FX, which would be a translator, not a station.

what in the nuttier than honey roast peanut hell is going on here?

and yes, i know these people are CRAZY... but ..... my head hurts trying to figure this out

They even have a website already for this new "Venture" WP2XCQ.com
 
It's an excellent solution, really. Let them broadcast whatever it is they're broadcasting to an audience of zero and see how long they can sustain it.

And with any luck, it will be a nail in the coffin of anyone who still thinks expanding FM below 88 in the US is a viable solution to anything.
 
fybush said:
It's an excellent solution, really. Let them broadcast whatever it is they're broadcasting to an audience of zero and see how long they can sustain it.

And with any luck, it will be a nail in the coffin of anyone who still thinks expanding FM below 88 in the US is a viable solution to anything.
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So is that a real experimental license? Im mildly confused and wonder why the FCC would grant that. and was i right in assuming its a translator?

Im... really confused.

But you watch, when this gets no listeners, theyll blame it on KNPR and the federal government
 
like.. usually.. you can figure out peoples reasoning/mindset or the reason for the looney no matter how illogical .. this one boggles the mind.
 
Should the 15 watt 81.9 signal actually get on the air, it will be interesting to see how far it goes. Pretty much the equivalent of the old Class D 10 watt non-comms, which could get a decent signal out three to five miles, and might go 10-15 miles with a yagi antenna and good receiver.

Not holding my breath on this.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
Should the 15 watt 81.9 signal actually get on the air, it will be interesting to see how far it goes. Pretty much the equivalent of the old Class D 10 watt non-comms, which could get a decent signal out three to five miles, and might go 10-15 miles with a yagi antenna and good receiver.
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But who -- if anyone -- is within those radii?

I am reminded of the old philosophical dilemma: If a tree falls in the forest but no one is there to hear it, does it actually make a sound?
 
K.M. Richards said:
But who -- if anyone -- is within those radii?

I am reminded of the old philosophical dilemma: If a tree falls in the forest but no one is there to hear it, does it actually make a sound?
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There's probably half a million people within the radius - and maybe ten of them have something that can tune 81.9 and know how to use it.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
Should the 15 watt 81.9 signal actually get on the air, it will be interesting to see how far it goes. Pretty much the equivalent of the old Class D 10 watt non-comms, which could get a decent signal out three to five miles, and might go 10-15 miles with a yagi antenna and good receiver.
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And also possibly quite unrepresentative. The class D 10-watt non-comms of the 1960s and 1970s had a less crowded dial to work with and, thus, less interference to encroach on their fringe coverage area. That's not to mention the way HD signals pollute adjacent channels. This 81.9 MHz operation has a clear field to itself. Yes, they say they'll increase power to 1 kw; still, it's hard to see what they're trying to prove with this. They're not doing anything new other than operating on a frequency that isn't available on some radios and, on others, requires knowing that it's there and maybe changing a setting or two.

Mediafrog+ said:
Not holding my breath on this.
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Innovation left the radio barn decades ago.
 
I'm a little curious how the 81.9 "FM" signal will coexist with KGHD-LD, which occupies the 82-88 MHz channel 6 RF bandwidth with an ATSC3 signal.

It would be more than a little ironic if one of the LPTV stations getting displaced from UHF ended up on channel 5 and knocked the 81.9 off the air...
 
Mediafrog+ said:
Should the 15 watt 81.9 signal actually get on the air, it will be interesting to see how far it goes. Pretty much the equivalent of the old Class D 10 watt non-comms, which could get a decent signal out three to five miles, and might go 10-15 miles with a yagi antenna and good receiver.

Not holding my breath on this.
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I think the plan was to provide 100 “American made” test radios to people. No clue how one would get one, if they are a home brew tuner or manufactured (I can’t imagine what the cost of a US made radio that tunes outside of 88-108), or even if these test radios will exist.

In addition, it appears 81.9 will be used for a second station in Kingman.

I’m imagining regardless, 100% of it’s listeners will probably require a Portsonic/LVPR-provided radio.

My question will be the definition of “interactive gaming”. Unless he intends to partner with a third party, I hope he has his ducks in a row with both Nevada’s and AZ’s gaming commissions. They’ll definitely be having a word with him if not!
 
fybush said:
I'm a little curious how the 81.9 "FM" signal will coexist with KGHD-LD, which occupies the 82-88 MHz channel 6 RF bandwidth with an ATSC3 signal.
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Seems like it is relying on the same in-channel blocking idea that let the 87.7 Franken FMs exist.

Although the more I think about it, that idea probably requires the transmitters are co-located so the signal strength of one doesn't massively outweigh the other.
 
FM radios that tune 76~88 very much exist. This spectrum is currently being used in at least Japan and Brazil for FM broadcasting. If the FCC was to ever allow for sound broadcasting in the Channel 5~6 spectrum, radios can be on a boat tomorrow.
 
I even question if these will get on the air? They had issues at the SBA tower at 2435 E Cheyenne Ave for reportedly non payment of the site.

This is for the Experimental license WP2XCQ on 81.9. They also have pending two applications as a Broadcast Auxiliary Low Power - 0011249299 - Portsonic Communications, LLC at 3514 N Van Nuys Rd, Kingman, AZ MOHAVE County on 87.7 and Broadcast Auxiliary Low Power - 0011216290 - Portsonic Communications, LLC at 2435 E Cheyenne Ave, North Las Vegas, NV CLARK County on 81.9.
 
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