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KPNW played “Bad Habits” by Ed Sheeran.

TheBigA said:
As I always say: Those who can, do. Those who can't, complain about those who can.
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A lot of times we don't complain about those who do anymore than people comment about a sports team that loses. This is "Radio Discussions" so the purpose of this site is discussion about radio, so yeah, there will be criticism. My company sells forklift parts, so if there was a discussion board on that, yeah, people would point out what the industry could possibly improve on. Usually criticism is directed at low rated stations anyway on here. Even if people don't know about forklift delivery, I could see how some things would be frustrating to some, especially if they see holes in how it is done, especially if it is a slowly dying industry. It is not like radio pros are "perfect" beings, and that is an authoritarian stance to say no one should comment on any perceived shortcomings, which I am sure are shared by many outside the radio business.
 
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tall_guy1 said:
A lot of times we don't complain about those who do anymore than people comment about a sports team that loses.
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Read the subject line of this thread. We're not talking about the Jonas Brothers or some other pop fluff. Ed Sheeran to me in the Dave Matthews of his generation. He writes quality songs and is a brilliant musician. I think his music fits in well in alternative and AAA, as much as it does with CHR. Some have a bias against him because he's popular and can fill stadiums, and I get that. But that's no reason to blow off his music.
 
TheBigA said:
Read the subject line of this thread. We're not talking about the Jonas Brothers or some other pop fluff. Ed Sheeran to me in the Dave Matthews of his generation. He writes quality songs and is a brilliant musician. I think his music fits in well in alternative and AAA, as much as it does with CHR. Some have a bias against him because he's popular and can fill stadiums, and I get that. But that's no reason to blow off his music.
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I agree on that front and disagree with the OP. Ed Sheeran started out on AAA, so I think he fits as well.
 
tall_guy1 said:
What is wrong with that? I am saying he could find a different mix with those songs on another AAA station.
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I just don't get it. From what I recall, you fit into the Millennial or Gen-Z generation. Why on God's green earth you look to radio for satisfying your eclectic taste in music to the artist and title level? You constantly seem to wonder why which station plays whatever title, or not. Most of your peers have been downloading their own playlists or streaming to their phones.
It just seems strange to me that you're such a man out of time.
 
Kelly A said:
I just don't get it. From what I recall, you fit into the Millennial or Gen-Z generation. Why on God's green earth you look to radio for satisfying your eclectic taste in music to the artist and title level? You constantly seem to wonder why which station plays whatever title, or not. Most of your peers have been downloading their own playlists or streaming to their phones.
It just seems strange to me that you're such a man out of time.
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I am just telling him something similar to what I do. Some Canadian pop stations I like which play some of the music I like, and he likely could find some stations he likes (since AAA has a variety of sounds).
 
This is a fun discussion. It's going to be hard to jump into KEXP's lane because KEXP isn't just a music format, it's a brand people in Seattle love. If you see a radio station bumper sticker on a car, 9 times out of 10 it's KEXP. Their audience is sort of off the beaten path like that and while 'PNW's approach is good (Branding as 'KPNW' was smart), it's going to be nearly impossible to build the loyalty KEXP has on a non-com. The other 1 out of 10 bumper sticker is some sort of old KISW sticker you would find on the back of an 88 Tacoma. I do agree that Ed Sheeran is much more than a regular "pop" artist and that one spin in the evening doesn't tell us much, but it'll be interesting to see where KPNW fits into the bigger puzzle. Btw, shout out to KEXP for blowing past stations like KISS, Star and even The End. Great programming and brand loyalty seems to beat monster signals when done right. For that matter, C89.5 isn't too far below the big guys either!
 
KEXP is WAY below the top stations in the market in cume. Remember non-coms have the advantage of not having to carry large commercial loads to pay the bills. KEXP drives ratings with TSL, not cume. KEXP has around 175K cume vs 500K-600K for market leaders. When commercial stations go "commercial free" they tend to drive Time Spent Listening and ratings as well, just not a long-term commercial radio business model. To be fair, holding the top spot 25-54 for several months in a row in 2022 with only 30% of the cume of market leaders is no small feat and is more than just being commercial free. Comparing non-coms to commercial stations is not apples to apples.
 
guruofradio said:
Comparing non-coms to commercial stations is not apples to apples.
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I agree with a lot of your post, except that commercial stations don't sell cume. They sell AQH. The share numbers that are publicly released are also not based on cume. So in that way, it is a fair comparison.
 
Tbh even if they do have the largest playlist in Seattle they probably have to tweak it a lot to get higher ratings. KJAQ probably has the second largest playlist and yet they have good ratings probably because of it being an Adult Hits format spanning genres that KPNW won’t play.
 
JackindaBox said:
Tbh even if they do have the largest playlist in Seattle they probably have to tweak it a lot to get higher ratings.
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My suggestion is to cut it in half. For another point of reference, KSWD's playlist has 250 songs.

The bigger the playlist, the lower the ratings. And older the demo.
 
trevorparker588 said:
By "the big guys", I mean commercial FM stations with full market signals and resources that aren't necessarily available to non-coms.
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Understand what you meant by big-guys, but not how you can determine that a station like KNHC is close to the big guys in either cume or TSL. Care to disclose how you've arrived at the conclusion?
 
Cobra14 said:
That song sucked. I hope they don’t devolve into Click 2.0. No Katy Perry, Maroon 5 or any of that crap please. Thank you.
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I'd play it on KSKO.... should O just cuse cobra said it sucked? lolol
 
tall_guy1 said:
Yours is a non com though.
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So? its kinda a joke.. and further proving the point i will play just about anything.. sucky or not :)
 
Andy Travis said:
Not sure what's being defined as KEXP's "playlist" but they're entirely DJ selected, so those songs change every single week. They play a whole lot more titles than 850.
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If their operation is anything like their predecessor, KCMU, yes they may be entirely DJ selected but there was an obvious rotation: there were heavy rotation cuts, recurrents, etc. The heavy rotation cuts were chosen by the MD, as were the recurrents.

From KEXP's website: "At KEXP [our MD] determines rotation, but we [i.e., the DJs] pick which bands to play from that list including songs AND that makes up just 50% or of our show."
 
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