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KPTK 1090 to sports (KFNQ) in January???

It will be interesting to see how CBS Sports Radio differs from the other networks. I've heard NBC Sports Radio and it sounds a bit like a work in progress...
 
It will be interesting to see if all this sports blabber oversaturation doesn't become a national radio JOKE - not amongst radio geeks, but with everyone in general (as it should be.)

SIX sports stations in the Seattle area alone.....Good God....
 
Actually, I DON'T think it will be interesting to observe what happens with the latest "all sports talk" station next week and beyond. It just further narrows the targeted audiences for AM radio, and makes the band even more irrelevant to non-fanatics of either sports, conspiracy theory politics, or paid-for religion. Come to think about it, all three of those are essentially aimed at the same mentality much of the time.

I already can't find six local AM stations that I care about or will ever want to listen to, to fill my car radio presets.
 
scott salvatori said:
i made the satelite radio switch in 2002, right when we headed off on a big road trip for a week. yep, the best part of the trip was the great country music programming on several channels, which was way beyond the centralized, chart controlled, speeded up and artificially sound modified product your all force fed here on the major market FM. dont like country? you will also find real album rock, and deep triple A, as well on "DEEP TRACKS", and "THE LOFT".

A lot of young people are avoiding all forms of radio completely, and are bypassing the radio middleman by streaming their favorite tracks using services such as Spotify. I mention satellite radio to them -- they don't even know what that is. And they don't care, either.
 
The flip is supposed to happen tonight or early tomorrow morning, right? I will be preparing my recording equipment before bed tonight.
 
bobdavcav said:
The flip is supposed to happen tonight or early tomorrow morning, right? I will be preparing my recording equipment before bed tonight.
I would think it would occur at Midnight or 6 AM tomorrow. If I had a recorder, I would start rolling at 9 just to make sure.
 
These days I have been getting to bed about 10, so that's probably when I will start recording and will probably shut it off about 8 tomorrow morning, that's when I have to get up for school.
 
bobdavcav said:
These days I have been getting to bed about 10, so that's probably when I will start recording and will probably shut it off about 8 tomorrow morning, that's when I have to get up for school.

Wow! You get 10 hours of sleep? Oh how I envy you! I am lucky if I get 5 consecutive hours of sleep per night. Farewell Progressive Talk AM 1090. You will be missed. As for The Fan, I hope the stations death is quick and very painful.
 
It is a CBS O&O, running CBS product. They will have a lot of patience because the station will not be expensive to operate. Plus, progressive talk on 1090 was not exactly dominating the market.
 
345palm said:
It is a CBS O&O, running CBS product. They will have a lot of patience because the station will not be expensive to operate. Plus, progressive talk on 1090 was not exactly dominating the market.

So what? It was still better than having another friggin sports station in the market!
 
CBS Sports Radio Network goes on the air at 9PM Pacific time tonight/Saturday - (Midnight EST)
 
toonces2u said:
345palm said:
It is a CBS O&O, running CBS product. They will have a lot of patience because the station will not be expensive to operate. Plus, progressive talk on 1090 was not exactly dominating the market.

So what? It was still better than having another friggin sports station in the market!
This station isn't going to do anything. At least with progressive talk, they were doing something you couldn't find elsewhere on the dial.
 
< At least with progressive talk, they were doing something you couldn't find elsewhere on the dial. >

I'm afraid, as we have been learning in recent months from several frequent "insider" posters on this board, that airing "anything that you can't find elsewhere on the dial" is now corporate commercial radio code for "format change."

I still don't see how a handful of corporations can hold the licenses for all of the good signals in a market, yet expect each station to show up as a "top 3" in the ratings. And living and dying by age and gender is a really narrow way to sell radio. Some of these stations by default simply have to be specialty programming of one sort or another reaching niche audiences and special interests. (And I'm not talking about time-brokered crap.)

But these guys who have convinced Congress to deregulate in their favor for the past few decades demonstrate neither the patience, nor the talent, to consistently program and promote any more than, say, five basic radio formats any more. I do think for being a station with a tiny staff but a big, albeit intereference-prone signal, 1090 was actually running a very good line up, which enabled them to have live hosts from 3am to 6pm daily. And bringing Randi Rhodes back at 6pm (after they replaced her a couple of years ago) always made my drive home from work fun, since I always learned something interesting from her astute perspectives on the American political scene. She's able to articulate what I'm suspecting about AMerican politics, and throw some new, interesting angles on it.

Anyone with smart phone recommendations for switching my "radio" listening to streaming, apps, and podcasts?
 
There's still KBAI 930 AM Bellingham. But they don't stream (they really should start now, as they are the ONLY full time Progressive Talk station in the Northwest remaining.)

For streaming, I recommend WCPT AM/FM out of Chicago.

http://chicagosprogressivetalk.com/

Direct link

http://6703.live.streamtheworld.com:80/WCPTAM_SC

Randi Rhodes isn't on WCPT, but they have the full former 1090 3am-6pm Pacific live schedule (Bill Press/Stephanie Miller/Ed Schultz/Thom Hartmann/Nor-MAN Gold-MAN.) You may have to subscribe to her program or listen via KTLK Los Angeles.
 
Goldilocks94941 said:
< At least with progressive talk, they were doing something you couldn't find elsewhere on the dial. >

I'm afraid, as we have been learning in recent months from several frequent "insider" posters on this board, that airing "anything that you can't find elsewhere on the dial" is now corporate commercial radio code for "format change."

I still don't see how a handful of corporations can hold the licenses for all of the good signals in a market, yet expect each station to show up as a "top 3" in the ratings. And living and dying by age and gender is a really narrow way to sell radio. Some of these stations by default simply have to be specialty programming of one sort or another reaching niche audiences and special interests. (And I'm not talking about time-brokered crap.)

But these guys who have convinced Congress to deregulate in their favor for the past few decades demonstrate neither the patience, nor the talent, to consistently program and promote any more than, say, five basic radio formats any more. I do think for being a station with a tiny staff but a big, albeit intereference-prone signal, 1090 was actually running a very good line up, which enabled them to have live hosts from 3am to 6pm daily. And bringing Randi Rhodes back at 6pm (after they replaced her a couple of years ago) always made my drive home from work fun, since I always learned something interesting from her astute perspectives on the American political scene. She's able to articulate what I'm suspecting about AMerican politics, and throw some new, interesting angles on it.

Anyone with smart phone recommendations for switching my "radio" listening to streaming, apps, and podcasts?

Goldilocks, the best website/app is Tune In by a wide margin. Among the features of this service is the listing of what programs are broadcasting station by station whenever you log in.

http://tunein.com/radio/Progressive-c57925/


I would also try Progressive Voices since they stream radio 24/7 from KTNF in Minneapolis/St Paul

http://progressivevoices.com/

Finally, consider opening up an account with Dar.Fm, but be aware that the app is not as good as the regular website

http://dar.fm/loginform.php?rlogin=1
 
Goldilocks94941 said:
< At least with progressive talk, they were doing something you couldn't find elsewhere on the dial. >

I'm afraid, as we have been learning in recent months from several frequent "insider" posters on this board, that airing "anything that you can't find elsewhere on the dial" is now corporate commercial radio code for "format change."

I still don't see how a handful of corporations can hold the licenses for all of the good signals in a market, yet expect each station to show up as a "top 3" in the ratings. And living and dying by age and gender is a really narrow way to sell radio. Some of these stations by default simply have to be specialty programming of one sort or another reaching niche audiences and special interests. (And I'm not talking about time-brokered crap.)

But these guys who have convinced Congress to deregulate in their favor for the past few decades demonstrate neither the patience, nor the talent, to consistently program and promote any more than, say, five basic radio formats any more. I do think for being a station with a tiny staff but a big, albeit intereference-prone signal, 1090 was actually running a very good line up, which enabled them to have live hosts from 3am to 6pm daily. And bringing Randi Rhodes back at 6pm (after they replaced her a couple of years ago) always made my drive home from work fun, since I always learned something interesting from her astute perspectives on the American political scene. She's able to articulate what I'm suspecting about AMerican politics, and throw some new, interesting angles on it.

Anyone with smart phone recommendations for switching my "radio" listening to streaming, apps, and podcasts?
Best post I've read all year! (I know, I know, smartmouths, we're only into the 2nd day of the year :mad:). What you say completely makes sense, which suggests to me at least one thing - Goldilocks, you are way too intelligent to work in the radio biz. Listening to Thom on KBCS right now.
 
Thanks, I think. "Too intelligent' for what passes as "commercial" radio anymore, PERHAPS, but I do work in non-comm radio. Have worked as a DJ, newscaster/journalist and eventually in station mgt for the better part of 39 years now for "both" kinds of radio. But i had the sense to learn some marketing and research skills, and put them to use (even in sales!) during a radio hiatus 20 years ago.

The only good thing I can say about the NAB is the good deal they offered for getting custom mic flags some years ago. Concern for actual listeners (as individuals, not as an aggregate statistic), and for the people who work in the industry, has never been lower than it seems to be right now. And it often wasn't much to brag about years ago, either.
 
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