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KRON for sale-Young hires advisers to help make a deal by first-quarter end

recto101 said:
JackBauer112 said:
I just went to the station website which has no mention of it of their anniversary.

It's kind of sad in a way.... I had to laugh when I saw the banner for the "Big Block of News" with the most traffic updates.

Yep, 60 years since the sign on of Northern California's third oldest television station and nearly 8 years since the station began to unravel into what it is today. They probably don't want to really highlight how great they used to be.
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I taped a commercial during Make Me a Millionaire a few weeks ago that speaks of KRON's 60th anniversary. They showed how they were during the "NewsWatch" era and the famous 1984-1989 KRON Golden Gate Bridge Legal ID which only consisted of "KRON-TV San Francisco", The San Jose-Oakland did not get added until 1985. and the past KRON logos. It's a shame that KRON has gone from the glory of NBC to a ******bag of what the station is now with very bad news anchors except for Pam and Gary.

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Once Pam Moore, Gary Radnich, Catherine Heenan, Marty Gonzales, and Yseblel Duron Leaves KRON then the station has to go off the air and move My Network TV to KFTY 50. Just leave KRON blank Fox does not want to touch this toxic station. ABS-CBN and GMA(Philippine TV networks) could by the Channel 4 signal but FCC won't allow this to happen and ABS-CBN and GMA already have successful Cable networks on Direct TV.
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Sad to say, but at this point, I don't think it makes any difference if Moore, Radnich, et al - stay at KRON or leave. If they do leave, it won't make the station go dark - KRON will just limp along like it has been until the financial situation plays out and forces a sale.
 
Interesting array of possibilities that could happen with Comcast/NBC

There are some interesting possibilities that could come forth with this sale of NBC to Comcast. The first is that the NBC Owned and operated stations will more than likely be sold off. One of the main reasons for that is because Comcast has service in this market as well as several other main top 10 markets around the country.

The other very interesting possibility is that Hearst may be one of the key players to put a bid in for the purchase of the NBC Owned and operated stations KNTV being one of them here in the Bay Area. Another interesting twist in this drama is that Hearst owns the Chronicle which may conflict with the purchase of KNTV. The reason I bring this up is could this be an opportunity for KRON to come back as an NBC affiliate if Young or the bank decides to sell if an opportunity arises.
 
Re: Interesting array of possibilities that could happen with Comcast/NBC

Newschannel4SF said:
There are some interesting possibilities that could come forth with this sale of NBC to Comcast. The first is that the NBC Owned and operated stations will more than likely be sold off. One of the main reasons for that is because Comcast has service in this market as well as several other main top 10 markets around the country.

The other very interesting possibility is that Hearst may be one of the key players to put a bid in for the purchase of the NBC Owned and operated stations KNTV being one of them here in the Bay Area. Another interesting twist in this drama is that Hearst owns the Chronicle which may conflict with the purchase of KNTV. The reason I bring this up is could this be an opportunity for KRON to come back as an NBC affiliate if Young or the bank decides to sell if an opportunity arises.
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A long shot for KRON at best, I would think. KNTV has value primarily because it is an NBC affiliate. It has much less value if it loses NBC and becomes a lowly independent station...oh...kind of like another station that tanked a few years ago when it lost NBC.

If I were representing a corporation buying KNTV, I would want assurances that it would retain its NBC affiliation, and I would think NBC would guarantee that - otherwise the sale price of their station would plummet.

I see two more likely scenarios regarding the Chronicle conflict if Hearst puts in a bid for all the NBC O&Os:

1. Hearst buys the other O&Os (at least in the markets they aren't running newspapers), but spins KNTV off to another buyer, who would also want assurances that they were buying an NBC affiliate.

2. Hearst sells the Chronicle, and buys KNTV. Reportedly, the Chronicle is losing subscribers at an even more rapid rate than most big city dailies - the paper is bleeding to death, and its future is very bleak.

3. Hearst buys KNTV after convincing the FCC or Congress to change the rules, given that daily newspapers are now an endangered species, and it's ridiculous to continue the policy that corporations can't own a newspaper and a TV station in the same market.

Remember that the FCC made an exception for KRON and the Chronicle when they were both owned by the Chronicle Corporation...I don't know the history of that...perhaps it was due to a 'grandfathering' type situation, but regardless - exceptions can be made.

In any of these scenarios, KRON is still out in the cold.
 
I'm not sure if KRon 4 can be save from the Titanic. Beside what other programs besides news that Kron 4 is watchable?

Dr. Phil
Inside Edition
Jack Hanna Animal Adventure (E/I requirement)
The Insider
Entertainment Tonight
The Hills
MNT PRIME
 
Re: Interesting array of possibilities that could happen with Comcast/NBC

Lkeller said:
Newschannel4SF said:
There are some interesting possibilities that could come forth with this sale of NBC to Comcast. The first is that the NBC Owned and operated stations will more than likely be sold off. One of the main reasons for that is because Comcast has service in this market as well as several other main top 10 markets around the country.

The other very interesting possibility is that Hearst may be one of the key players to put a bid in for the purchase of the NBC Owned and operated stations KNTV being one of them here in the Bay Area. Another interesting twist in this drama is that Hearst owns the Chronicle which may conflict with the purchase of KNTV. The reason I bring this up is could this be an opportunity for KRON to come back as an NBC affiliate if Young or the bank decides to sell if an opportunity arises.
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A long shot for KRON at best, I would think. KNTV has value primarily because it is an NBC affiliate. It has much less value if it loses NBC and becomes a lowly independent station...oh...kind of like another station that tanked a few years ago when it lost NBC.

If I were representing a corporation buying KNTV, I would want assurances that it would retain its NBC affiliation, and I would think NBC would guarantee that - otherwise the sale price of their station would plummet.

I see two more likely scenarios regarding the Chronicle conflict if Hearst puts in a bid for all the NBC O&Os:

1. Hearst buys the other O&Os (at least in the markets they aren't running newspapers), but spins KNTV off to another buyer, who would also want assurances that they were buying an NBC affiliate.

2. Hearst sells the Chronicle, and buys KNTV. Reportedly, the Chronicle is losing subscribers at an even more rapid rate than most big city dailies - the paper is bleeding to death, and its future is very bleak.

3. Hearst buys KNTV after convincing the FCC or Congress to change the rules, given that daily newspapers are now an endangered species, and it's ridiculous to continue the policy that corporations can't own a newspaper and a TV station in the same market.

Remember that the FCC made an exception for KRON and the Chronicle when they were both owned by the Chronicle Corporation...I don't know the history of that...perhaps it was due to a 'grandfathering' type situation, but regardless - exceptions can be made.

In any of these scenarios, KRON is still out in the cold.
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I'd guess #2 or #3 are more likely. I don't think it'd be worth it for Hearst to buy a few NBC O&Os, but have to worry about divesting after that. Also, I'd be surprised if Comcast NBC divested NBC stations in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles. It just seems unwise to drop guaranteed clearances in the largest markets which are the backbone of the network. But then again, Comcast may want the cash proceeds from selling all the stations, or the FCC may insist on it. At that point, the stations and the network remain at different interests, so that Comcast wouldn't care so much if there is a precipitous decline for NBC for it to be a distant 4th from the FOX CBS and ABC, and be at equivalent of what the CW is now, as long as the cable channels it acquired from the NBC Universal deal like CNBC and USA do well. Under that scenario with NBC at such a low, costs would be cut, and whatever remaining talent at NBC, or NBC news would shift to CBS, ABC or elsewhere or just be done. Like Meredith Viera too expensive for NBC, so she moves to GMA, Matt Laueur to CBS, shows like The Office done and cancelled, Jay Leno retired, SNL to cable.

But, maybe Comcast keeps NBC going and wants to keep atleast 5 NBC O&Os with the top 3, Washington DC and another one or two. I think San Francisco maybe worth keeping with the synergies of owning the Telemundo affiliate, with the high Hispanic population it serves in the Bay Area, and an affluent demographic for KNTV otherwise. So, what remains is Philadelphia, Hartford and a few other markets. The Dallas and San Diego NBC O&Os are partially owned by LIN.

I agree KRON would still be out in the cold.
 
Re: Interesting array of possibilities that could happen with Comcast/NBC

ding12 said:
Lkeller said:

A long shot for KRON at best, I would think. KNTV has value primarily because it is an NBC affiliate. It has much less value if it loses NBC and becomes a lowly independent station...oh...kind of like another station that tanked a few years ago when it lost NBC.

If I were representing a corporation buying KNTV, I would want assurances that it would retain its NBC affiliation, and I would think NBC would guarantee that - otherwise the sale price of their station would plummet.

I see two more likely scenarios regarding the Chronicle conflict if Hearst puts in a bid for all the NBC O&Os:

1. Hearst buys the other O&Os (at least in the markets they aren't running newspapers), but spins KNTV off to another buyer, who would also want assurances that they were buying an NBC affiliate.

2. Hearst sells the Chronicle, and buys KNTV. Reportedly, the Chronicle is losing subscribers at an even more rapid rate than most big city dailies - the paper is bleeding to death, and its future is very bleak.

3. Hearst buys KNTV after convincing the FCC or Congress to change the rules, given that daily newspapers are now an endangered species, and it's ridiculous to continue the policy that corporations can't own a newspaper and a TV station in the same market.

Remember that the FCC made an exception for KRON and the Chronicle when they were both owned by the Chronicle Corporation...I don't know the history of that...perhaps it was due to a 'grandfathering' type situation, but regardless - exceptions can be made.

In any of these scenarios, KRON is still out in the cold.
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I'd guess #2 or #3 are more likely. I don't think it'd be worth it for Hearst to buy a few NBC O&Os, but have to worry about divesting after that. Also, I'd be surprised if Comcast NBC divested NBC stations in New York, Chicago and Los Angeles. It just seems unwise to drop guaranteed clearances in the largest markets which are the backbone of the network. But then again, Comcast may want the cash proceeds from selling all the stations, or the FCC may insist on it. At that point, the stations and the network remain at different interests, so that Comcast wouldn't care so much if there is a precipitous decline for NBC for it to be a distant 4th from the FOX CBS and ABC, and be at equivalent of what the CW is now, as long as the cable channels it acquired from the NBC Universal deal like CNBC and USA do well. Under that scenario with NBC at such a low, costs would be cut, and whatever remaining talent at NBC, or NBC news would shift to CBS, ABC or elsewhere or just be done. Like Meredith Viera too expensive for NBC, so she moves to GMA, Matt Laueur to CBS, shows like The Office done and cancelled, Jay Leno retired, SNL to cable.

But, maybe Comcast keeps NBC going and wants to keep atleast 5 NBC O&Os with the top 3, Washington DC and another one or two. I think San Francisco maybe worth keeping with the synergies of owning the Telemundo affiliate, with the high Hispanic population it serves in the Bay Area, and an affluent demographic for KNTV otherwise. So, what remains is Philadelphia, Hartford and a few other markets. The Dallas and San Diego NBC O&Os are partially owned by LIN.

I agree KRON would still be out in the cold.
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An excellent analysis, Ding12 (maybe because it agrees with mine ;D). The only thing I might disagree about is the scenario in which Comcast has a big fire sale, and dumps NBC shows and talent. I don't think they'll be able to that - at least not for a few years until the traditional networks really go into their predicted decline. There will be a lot of pressure to block this deal, and there's likely to be less sympathy from regulators now that the Obama administration is in office. Comcast will need to make assurances that the NBC network will not be gutted like a fish.
 
How about this scenario: NBC sells 48, buys 4 and shifts Telemundo to 11. They end up with two signals broadcasting from the Peninsula. I don't think Telemundo has ever been on a channel number that high anywhere, correct me if I'm wrong. They'd end up higher than Univision, which be good for the ego, I would think. ;) So it might work as a strategy.

Oh, and 48 would be the new home for Azteca America. ;D
 
stationless listener said:
How about this scenario: NBC sells 48, buys 4 and shifts Telemundo to 11. They end up with two signals broadcasting from the Peninsula. I don't think Telemundo has ever been on a channel number that high anywhere, correct me if I'm wrong. They'd end up higher than Univision, which be good for the ego, I would think. ;) So it might work as a strategy.

Oh, and 48 would be the new home for Azteca America. ;D
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That scenario has been floated before. But what corporation - especially NBC Universal - can afford to shell out good money for an "ego" play in this economy? In this cable/satellite world, channel position means increasingly less. Obvious example - KNTV's new branding as "NBC Bay Area." In a few years, most viewers will forget it's OTA dial position.

By "signals broadcasting from the Peninsula," I assume you're referring to studio facilities. Technically, KNTV's major transmission tower (signal) now broadcasts from Mt. San Bruno, which is between Burlingame and South San Francisco (I think)...could be Daly City.
 
KSTS Telemundo 48? Their local news is a joke. Unlike their LA counterpart KVEA 52, they only have local news at 11PM M-F. Their 6PM newscast are coming out from the Telemundo Dallas office.
 
travisl5678 said:
STOP KICKING A DEAD HORSE, NBC IS HAPPY WITH KNTV
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I'm not the one kicking a dead horse, I simply posted a story for those who may be curious. Since I don't live in the Bay Area, I could honestly care less about whether NBC stays on KNTV or not. In fact, the article never said anything about NBC moving its affiliation back to KRON. Basically, NBC would continue run to KRON as is, with Young continuing to own the station.
 
Will this mean, should I eventually tune in for KRON4 news, I would see the gang from KNTV? Like KTVU produces the news for KICU and KGO produces the news to KOFY and KPIX produces the news for KBCW?
 
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