KSHN-FM 99.9 (Shine-All-Nine)Liberty-Dayton,TX

[TXCalradio]

One of the very few LOCAL stations left with a Soft A/C format which is not very common these days in radio. Yes, they play artists such as Carly Simon, Johnny Mathis, Carole King, Seals & Crofts, Bread and Chicago. If only they had a stronger signal to cover more of Houston.
Their current slogan is: "Music Mixed With Things That Matter"
http://kshnfm.com

 

[willdav713]

I remember picking that station up as far west as Sealy back in the early 00s.

 

[Mediafrog+]

If only they had a stronger signal to cover more of Houston.

Not happening with first adjacent KVST in the way, although I'm sure potential owners with considerable money could change that situation.

 

[TXCalradio]

It would be sad to see corporate radio buy this station and destroy it.

 

[foursider]

I agree. It's one of the last local, independent and well-programmed stations left anywhere in the Houston area. If a corporate entity ever got ahold of it; they would just screw it up like all the other corporately owned operations in Houston.

 

[someperson]

Agreed. This station needs to stay exactly as it is. Though I would like better coverage in Houston, I think it's probably better off with its limited signal because then it can't become yet another Houston rimshot. Even though I live near Meyerland, it's still one of my presets because I think it's such a great station. This station has character, with local jocks, well-programmed music, and I actually like the regular news updates. The corporations need to stay far, far away from it.

 

[AndyWaldrop]

As long as the current owner of the station owns it, it will stay just like it is. No need to EVER worry about that.

KVST isn't the only factor in KSHN not being able to upgrade, KILT-FM enters into the equation also. KSHN has no desire to upgrade.

The station is ONLY concerned with serving the public interest, convenience and necessity of Liberty and Chambers counties. And...they do a stellar job of just that.

 

[bradgoehl]

Amen, Great local programing and Great ownership!

 

[Mediafrog+]

KVST isn't the only factor in KSHN not being able to upgrade, KILT-FM enters into the equation also.

Actually, no. KSHN is on the same tower as KQBU and KKHT, both of which are second adjacents to Missouri City signals. KSHN could upgrade if not for KVST.

There is a 99.9 located east of Lafayette that might be an issue; haven't measured the distance.

 

[jd]

I agree that they probably have no intention of upgrading, but here's an overview of the possibilities.

Distance to KTDY Lafayette would be clear by about two miles if KSHN were somehow able to upgrade to Class C1 (but not a Class C) at their present site; likewise the distance to "WACO 100" on 99.9 would clear as well. But besides KVST there are at least a couple of other factors like an adjacent channel station in Lufkin on 100.1 and a co-channel over in Zwolle LA.

It's safe to assume that finding a way to move everything out of the way probably wouldn't be possible due to a lack of alternate frequencies.

 

[OldChicago]

It's safe to assume that finding a way to move everything out of the way probably wouldn't be possible due to a lack of alternate frequencies.

Too many stations and too few frequencies. This is why I do not understand why the FCC does not re-allocate the former frequencies that TV channels 5 and 6 used for FM radio. I hear they are doing this elsewhere since most of the the TV stations have moved to UHF.


Old Chicago

 

[rbrucecarter5]

I agree that they probably have no intention of upgrading, but here's an overview of the possibilities.

Distance to KTDY Lafayette would be clear by about two miles if KSHN were somehow able to upgrade to Class C1 (but not a Class C) at their present site; likewise the distance to "WACO 100" on 99.9 would clear as well. But besides KVST there are at least a couple of other factors like an adjacent channel station in Lufkin on 100.1 and a co-channel over in Zwolle LA.

It's safe to assume that finding a way to move everything out of the way probably wouldn't be possible due to a lack of alternate frequencies.

There was a massive frequency swap to get 107.5 into the area. I bet something could be done - but it would take a lot of money. If somebody decided 99.9 could make money as a move-in - watch out! Especially with 3 adjacent protection gone. Can second be far behind? The FCC turned a blind eye to a first adjacent 40 miles away in Detroit, you might be able to slip a second adjacent spaced closely without attracting attention.

 

[jd]

If somebody decided 99.9 could make money as a move-in - watch out! Especially with 3 adjacent protection gone. Can second be far behind? The FCC turned a blind eye to a first adjacent 40 miles away in Detroit, you might be able to slip a second adjacent spaced closely without attracting attention.

3rd adjacent protection isn't gone, at least not yet. It still has the same power and distance limitations as 2nd adjacent, but it's time to rethink that antiquated part of the rules.

In your first-adjacent example in the Detroit area, the two Class B stations on 102.7 and 102.9 (WSW in Ann Arbor and ENE in Mount Clemens) are separated by roughly 53 miles. This situation certainly isn't new; it's grandfathered back to the 1960's and both stations employ directional antennas.

While there are notable 2nd-adjacent short spaced situations (93.3 and 93.7 in the Austin area comes to mind) I'd say that slipping one in "without attracting attention" isn't likely.

 

[willdav713]

I agree that they probably have no intention of upgrading, but here's an overview of the possibilities.

Distance to KTDY Lafayette would be clear by about two miles if KSHN were somehow able to upgrade to Class C1 (but not a Class C) at their present site; likewise the distance to "WACO 100" on 99.9 would clear as well. But besides KVST there are at least a couple of other factors like an adjacent channel station in Lufkin on 100.1 and a co-channel over in Zwolle LA.

It's safe to assume that finding a way to move everything out of the way probably wouldn't be possible due to a lack of alternate frequencies.

There was a massive frequency swap to get 107.5 into the area. I bet something could be done - but it would take a lot of money. If somebody decided 99.9 could make money as a move-in - watch out! Especially with 3 adjacent protection gone. Can second be far behind? The FCC turned a blind eye to a first adjacent 40 miles away in Detroit, you might be able to slip a second adjacent spaced closely without attracting attention.

They would just move 99.9 to 99.7 and change distance, power, etc.

 

[jd]

They would just move 99.9 to 99.7 and change distance, power, etc.

If it appears that simple to you, let me suggest this:

Do a search for all potential conflicts with a change to 99.7 within a 65 to 180 mile radius and the impact on not only co-channel stations but 1st, 2nd and 3rd adjacents. Compile a list of all stations, their power and station class and the distance to each of them, then get back to us.

 

[willdav713]

They would just move 99.9 to 99.7 and change distance, power, etc.

If it appears that simple to you, let me suggest this:

Do a search for all potential conflicts with a change to 99.7 within a 65 to 180 mile radius and the impact on not only co-channel stations but 1st, 2nd and 3rd adjacents. Compile a list of all stations, their power and station class and the distance to each of them, then get back to us.

Other stations would have to make adjustments too. I know you got 99.1 in Houston, 99.5 in San Antonio, 100.3 in Houston, and San Antonio, and 99.7 (a repeater in Austin). I didn't say it was simple, and I didn't say that other stations would not have to make adjustments. It would take over 5 years to do such a thing, if it were approved, and more money than it is worth, unless the FCC abolishes the 3rd adjacent rule in which by that time all FM's will be just community radio, and the existing FM will move to XM.

I remember mentioning this in a thread, that FM was going to be all digital via XM, and the XM will offer those free, and by subscription you would get those "Premium Channels"

 

[stevenNOLA]

Don't forget about 99.5 in Lake Charles that moved just north of Vinton and now sends a signal all the way to Mont Belvieu.

 

[purpledevil]

Don't forget about 99.5 in Lake Charles that moved just north of Vinton and now sends a signal all the way to Mont Belvieu.

Lake Charles, Austin repeaters and all aren't the biggest problem with his idea. It'd cost you a couple of million to purchase and take KVST-Willis dark to move KSHN to 99.7. I promise you, the New Wavo folks aren't moving K-Star again, at least not without a substanial financial gain.

 

[OldChicago]

If only they had a stronger signal to cover more of Houston.

Not happening with first adjacent KVST in the way, although I'm sure potential owners with considerable money could change that situation.

Unless I am not seeing something, I think KVST should welcome a move by KSHN. I am thinking a move SOUTH to Winnie or Mont Belvieu or
in that general area which will give KVST even more mileage separation from KSHN.

Old Chicago

 

[willdav713]

Don't forget about 99.5 in Lake Charles that moved just north of Vinton and now sends a signal all the way to Mont Belvieu.

Lake Charles, Austin repeaters and all aren't the biggest problem with his idea. It'd cost you a couple of million to purchase and take KVST-Willis dark to move KSHN to 99.7. I promise you, the New Wavo folks aren't moving K-Star again, at least not without a substanial financial gain.

Wasn't K-Star on 101.5 back in the 90s, as a Adult Contemporary format?