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KSPA-AM 1510 files to change transmitter sites

I really hate to admit this, because I've loved radio so much all my life. But it's over.

I don’t agree that radio is in a death spiral, though it may never be what it once was. Having said that, when I'm wrong, I'm usually too optimistic. You’re welcome to disagree with me. If you do, the time to get out was yesterday. The next best time is now. No reason to wait for it to implode. Put your skills to work now before your competitors get the chance.


But, it's all about the apps on the phone, isn't it? Some are so horrible as to not be useful. I get commercials from Colorado and Kansas City when I live nowhere near those places.

If you're on a cell network, the apps might think you’re somewhere else. I get a lot of commercials for Chicago and Indianapolis despite both being about five hours from me. Even Facebook logged me in Indianapolis a few weeks ago via the cell network. They usually get my location right when I'm on WiFi.

What are your favorite radio apps? For me, it's RadioApp first and SimpleRadio second. RadioApp just presents a dial, like a radio and it has changed my life.

I still haven’t found anything better than TuneIn, iHeart, and Audacy. TuneIn's recent update that removed folders in CarPlay really irritates me, though. When I'm on Bluetooth, I usually play radio through Apple Music. At home, I just tell Alexa what to play. I generally avoid single station apps as they make my phone and iPad too difficult to use with all the clutter. Of the pure streaming radio services, I like AccuRadio the best, but I have noticed it no longer has a Roku app, the Alexa app is clunky, and the iPhone app has no CarPlay capability.
 
I think a lot of people still listen to KNX 1070 in other parts of Southern California. Here in San Diego County, KNX comes in like a local -- whereas 97.1 cannot be received in most areas. KNX is a good source during earthquakes and other huge stories, because San Diego doesn't have a 24/7 local news station. 600 KOGO and 89.5 KPBS are only local a few hours a day, with some cut-ins at the top and bottom of the hours.
While it is nice that there is a regional voice, KNX could not care less about the audience in San Diego, Riverside/San Bernardino or Oxnard/Ventura. That is because they get no greater revenue from that added coverage, so they only take an interest in LA and Orange counties.
 
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KRNX 780 has two translators:
K243AM 96.5 & K286CO 105.1. I wasn't talking about the "real" KRNX FM that bearly covers Colorado Springs.

This 780 AM IMHO only exists to legally "feed" the translators.

There are two trains of thought on the same tread both of which have derailed. Could be confusing

Thanks for clarifying. I think I got confused when you replied to Paul's post about KRNX-FM with verbiage that sounded like you thought it was one of the translators.
 
While it is nice that there is a regional voice, KNX could not care less about the audience in San Diego, Riverside/San Bernardino or Oxnard/Ventura. That is because they get no greater revenue from that added coverage, so they only take an interest in LA and Orange counties.
As I've mentioned before, now that most LA Metro KNX listeners are in all probability tuned to 97.1 FM, 1070 AM's purpose presumably is to act as a "translator" to fill in any voids not adequately served by any FM signal, an example near my area is the Community of Topanga in which virtually no FM stations are listenable.
 
As I've mentioned before, now that most LA Metro KNX listeners are in all probability tuned to 97.1 FM, 1070 AM's purpose presumably is to act as a "translator" to fill in any voids not adequately served by any FM signal, an example near my area is the Community of Topanga in which virtually no FM stations are listenable.
And, we should remember that the Mt Wilson signals are spotty around Santa Clarita and Valencia, and pretty useless in Lancaster / Palmdale... all part of the LA Metro Survey Area. So the AM has some definite fill-in potential.
 
A video on "America's Funniest Home Videos" had a girl learning to read who saw 11 and said "Pause".

As I've mentioned before, now that most LA Metro KNX listeners are in all probability tuned to 97.1 FM, 1070 AM's purpose presumably is to act as a "translator" to fill in any voids not adequately served by any FM signal, an example near my area is the Community of Topanga in which virtually no FM stations are listenable.
Unfortunately, the ground conductivity inland in and around the mountains is marginal.

I’m not convinced that everyone has switched to 97.1. From what I understand, it usually turns to a 60/40 ratio fairly fast with the 40 on AM being mostly over.

I for one see no reason to listen on FM when I get it perfectly being that I live about 5 miles from the transmitter. I don’t want to waste an FM button on it just to hear the better frequency response on spoken word.

It’s the only AM station that I ever listen to since I cannot stand the the talk shows on the others and mostly care less about sports.

Someone with the data can confirm the breakout though the back door in Maximizer ( if that’s what it’s still called).
 
I for one see no reason to listen on FM when I get it perfectly being that I live about 5 miles from the transmitter. I don’t want to waste an FM button on it just to hear the better frequency response on spoken word.
If you're close enough to hear the translator, it seems the AM signal should be good enough. I know of one case where that wouldn't be true because the translator is in a different town, but I don't have enough buttons and besides, the station dropped 60s music and added more 80s so there's no point.
 
Someone with the data can confirm the breakout though the back door in Maximizer ( if that’s what it’s still called).
The Nielsen software does not allow the breakout of combined Single Line Reporting stations. You have to order a special report for that .

What I need to find out is whether such reports are restricted just to the stations involved, or whether a competitor who want's to know the distribution can order it.
 
That was a general comment about translators.

Then, IMNSHO, it was off-topic and also not phrased to be interpreted as a "general" comment.

In context, here is how I interpreted it ...
1. Michael Rivers Kramer, talking about KNX here in Los Angeles, said he lives five miles from the AM 1070 transmitter and therefore had no need to tune to KNX-FM.
2. You somehow interpreted his remark as involving a translator that does not exist. And you did not call it a "general comment" but phrased it as a direct response to Michael.
3. I pointed that out.
4. ...
 
San Diego County is its own market and any KNX listening in SD is completely irrelevant.
I realize SD County is a separate market from L.A. And from a revenue standpoint, I understand KNX doesn't care about San Diego. But when a huge story hits (a.k.a. major earthquake, North Korea missile strikes the U.S., etc.) and if that happens at an odd hour (middle of the night, 7am Sunday morning,,etc.), and all the power & cell service goes out, KNX may be the ONLY source of info for the 3.3 million residents in this county. And that's not "irrelevant."
 
I realize SD County is a separate market from L.A. And from a revenue standpoint, I understand KNX doesn't care about San Diego. But when a huge story hits (a.k.a. major earthquake, North Korea missile strikes the U.S., etc.) and if that happens at an odd hour (middle of the night, 7am Sunday morning,,etc.), and all the power & cell service goes out, KNX may be the ONLY source of info for the 3.3 million residents in this county. And that's not "irrelevant."
I generally agree with your statement. I was only referring to KNX's SD listenership to be irrelevant in terms of business considerations.
 
I realize SD County is a separate market from L.A. And from a revenue standpoint, I understand KNX doesn't care about San Diego. But when a huge story hits (a.k.a. major earthquake, North Korea missile strikes the U.S., etc.) and if that happens at an odd hour (middle of the night, 7am Sunday morning,,etc.), and all the power & cell service goes out, KNX may be the ONLY source of info for the 3.3 million residents in this county. And that's not "irrelevant."
And what percent of those 3.3 million have a home radio... or even know how to find a AM station they likely have never heard of?
 
And what percent of those 3.3 million have a home radio... or even know how to find a AM station they likely have never heard of?
In a major disaster, if power outages were widespread (and they didn't have a battery-operated radio in an emergency kit), some of those 3.3 million would probably find KNX on their car radio. Maybe not many, but in a disaster some people will go to great lengths to get info.

In January 1994, our home was damaged in the Northridge quake. Not only was power out for days, we had no water service. So, we drove back and forth to a friend's home in Reseda to shower, etc. I distinctly remember hearing a number of cars tuned to KNX and the former all-news KFWB. Yes, I realize that was more than 20 years ago, and before internet/cellphone usage became widespread. But even then, AM listening was not huge. People were desperate for quake info, and with power outages KNX was the perfect source.
 
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