KTMR AM 1130 has a NEW CP to move into San Antonio

[gabigley1]

KTMR has a C.P. to move from Edna, Texas to Converse, Texas. They will use a three
tower Daytime array east of San Antonio at 25 K.W. They will not have Night operation.

This will be their new coverage area if they move the station to San Antonio:

http://www.radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pat?call=KTMR&service=AM&status=C&hours=D

 

[Willis1000]

A tight little cluster forming on the AM dial:
1100 K-DRY
1130 KTMR
1160 Disney

 

[Mediafrog+]

The KTMR move has been in the works for several years now. Hadn't heard anything further until now. Thought it was originally going to come from a site along 281 north of SA...or am I thinking of something else?

A tight little cluster forming on the AM dial:
1100 K-DRY
1130 KTMR
1160 Disney

A long way from the days when KDRY was a 1kw daytimer on 1110. And 1160's predecessors (KBER, etc.) were 1kw daytimers on 1150.

 

[jd]

Thought it was originally going to come from a site along 281 north of SA...or am I thinking of something else?

No, it was them. They had applied during the major change filing window back in 2004 to move to Bulverde. That was dismissed at their request and they turned their attention to the Converse application, which was classified as a "minor" change. The engineer on the move is Bob Morrow of Houston, who was instrumental in KGOW 1560's big power increase to 50,000 watts.

 

[purpledevil]

I bet you KWKH/Shreveport is certainly glad to know about this move. This station has been rather laughable in the last couple of years, trying to target Sugar Land from Edna. Has KTMR/Edna rectified the illegal nighttime operations problem yet? I believe it was KWKH who sent the FCC a little letter letting them know about it some time back.

 

[daypart]

I wonder if they'll change the call. KTMR would be awfully easy for diary keepers to confuse with KTKR.

 

[gabigley1]

The Original KTMR Application for their move the move to Converse was for 45,000 watts. The FCC did not grant a C.P. for 45,000 watts because of interference concerns for both KDRY and an inbuilt station on
1120 AM in Austin, Texas.
Their FCC consultant then amended their application for 25,000 watts using the same antenna array
and the FCC granted a C.P. for that power level pretty fast.

This move in was made possible by the move of KDRY from 1110 to 1100 and the old KBER
from 1150 to 1160 during the 80s. San Antonio is growing faster now then in the 90s??
That may explain why they didn't make the move to San Antonio in the 90s or was there
a freeze on Daytime Only stations applying for move ins??

 

[Mediafrog+]

The Original KTMR Application for their move the move to Converse was for 45,000 watts. The FCC did not grant a C.P. for 45,000 watts because of interference concerns for both KDRY and an inbuilt station on 1120 AM in Austin, Texas.

Unbuilt station on 1120 in Austin? Is that application still alive in any form? I first heard of that almost 30 years ago...and nothing was ever built. Call was going to be KTCO, IIRC.

 

[radioeye]

The Original KTMR Application for their move the move to Converse was for 45,000 watts. The FCC did not grant a C.P. for 45,000 watts because of interference concerns for both KDRY and an inbuilt station on 1120 AM in Austin, Texas.

Unbuilt station on 1120 in Austin? Is that application still alive in any form? I first heard of that almost 30 years ago...and nothing was ever built. Call was going to be KTCO, IIRC.

I wonder if that's the 1120 Manor, Texas that was reinstated by the commission this year after being previously dismissed?

 

[jd]

I wonder if that's the 1120 Manor, Texas that was reinstated by the commission this year after being previously dismissed?

Yes, it is. Directional with 250 watts from four towers daytime, three at night with 150 watts. And neither pattern is directed toward Austin. Daytime coverage will be anything but impressive and at night they'll get slammed by the 50,000 watts of KMOX St. Louis. Why they keep spending the bucks on trying to make this thing work is beyond me, and I really don't think the FCC likes the idea, either.

 

[gabigley1]

I wonder if that's the 1120 Manor, Texas that was reinstated by the commission this year after being previously dismissed?

Yes, it is. Directional with 250 watts from four towers daytime, three at night with 150 watts. And neither pattern is directed toward Austin. Daytime coverage will be anything but impressive and at night they'll get slammed by the 50,000 watts of KMOX St. Louis. Why they keep spending the bucks on trying to make this thing work is beyond me, and I really don't think the FCC likes the idea, either.

Yes, The unbuilt station on 1120 AM will serve the Austin area in the daytime. Here is their city grade coverage area map which is on file with the FCC here:

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/getattachment_exh.cgi?exhibit_id=636621

On April 30, 2008, they filed another application for a C.P. with the FCC here:

http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws...t=25&appn=101244578&formid=301&fac_num=160615 T

They are using Vir. James Consulting Engineers and they have a very good reputation with the FCC so this application has a reasonable chance on being granted... Getting the station granted on at night will be
a feat in itself. Wasn't this originally a daytime only application when it first filed over 20 years ago
with the FCC?

 

[Mediafrog+]

Yes, it is. Directional with 250 watts from four towers daytime, three at night with 150 watts. And neither pattern is directed toward Austin. Daytime coverage will be anything but impressive and at night they'll get slammed by the 50,000 watts of KMOX St. Louis.

The daytime lobe is aimed WNW towards the north Austin suburbs. The night pattern throws rather feeble lobes W and SSE, which at 153 watts won't do very much with KMOX giving them grief.

The 290 corridor between Austin and Elgin is a growth area, with many new housing developments going up. This area is becoming home to people who want access to the Austin lifestyle, but can't afford the high prices of the inner city or the western hills.

Applicant for 1120 is "JNE Investments." Hmmm, I smell brokered ethnic or religion in the plans.

FCC data is here: http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/amq?list=0&facid=160615

 

[jd]

They are using Vir. James Consulting Engineers and they have a very good reputation with the FCC so this application has a reasonable chance on being granted...

No argument about Vir James. I first dealt with them back in 1980, and their engineer on this job has done some very good work over the years. He also owns a couple of stations in Colorado. So while the application may finally get approved I'm still not convinced it'll be worth all the time and money.

Applicant for 1120 is "JNE Investments." Hmmm, I smell brokered ethnic or religion in the plans.

I'd say you're onto something.

Jeffrey N. Eustis. He's the one who got a "major change" application approved for KTXV 890 in Mabank, southeast of Dallas. He also has a close association with Bustos Media, who bought the station from JNE after it was upgraded to 20,000 watts; they now target Dallas' Vietnamese community with "Radio Saigon" programming. Religion I doubt, but brokered ethnic on 1120 wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

[jd]

An update...

The FCC granted a construction permit on May 20th for the new station in Manor.