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KTRU agreement wtih KPFT to keep KTRU on air on KPFT's digital signal

Why did they have to pay to lease the HD channel from KPFT? Would it not have made more sense to just make the use of the same channel from KTRU for free as a condition of sale?
 
I've got the feeling that the gang at the Keeping Public Radio Public blog, who have not hidden their contempt for HD and Ibiquity (and given a home for posting to the "HD Radio Farce" guy who spams and trolls any and every article on HD and has been thrown off here and other radio boards), are going to be screaming bloody murder at KTRU for taking the KPFT offer. It seems to me that the offer (which KPFT made shortly after the sale first announced) was the only choice they had to preserve an on-air presence and (as they allege) continue to get record service.

Which makes me wonder if in San Francisco KPFA will make a similar offer to the former KUSF people (this, of course, would be a different deal because USF has kicked out the KUSF management, while KTRU's people have been operating out of their Rice studios all along).
 
College stations have loyalty and often compelling, unique content. Perhaps this is a viable, positive use for HD. And all the naysayers about it should realize its here, and has to be dealt with. At least housing programming like this is a forward thinking positive use of HD spectrum instead of more jukebox channels.
 
DToTheJ said:
Translation: KTRU is dead!

Not exactly. Sales of HD radios may pick up in Houston due to loyal KTRU listeners.

At least it's being put to better use since it's currently the programming landfill. It's mutually beneficial since it generates needed revenue for the station to pay the electric bill while allowing an organization to piggyback on the strong signal.
 
So KTRU moves to 90.1 HD-2 on the 14th, which makes me wonder how close we are to seeing KUHC debut. Also, wouldn't this actually mark the end for K-TRU as KTRU? Wouldn't KTRU become KPFT-HD2 once the move happens? I don't recall ever seeing 2 sets of calls allowed for one frequency, subchannel or not.
 
purpledevil said:
So KTRU moves to 90.1 HD-2 on the 14th, which makes me wonder how close we are to seeing KUHC debut. Also, wouldn't this actually mark the end for K-TRU as KTRU? Wouldn't KTRU become KPFT-HD2 once the move happens? I don't recall ever seeing 2 sets of calls allowed for one frequency, subchannel or not.

They will be on both 91.7 KTRU and 90.1 HD-2 on the 14th and remain on both until Rice turns 91.7 and 91.5 over to UH... whenever that may occur.

So your top of hour ID will be KTRU Houston, KPFT HD-2 Houston and then after 91.7/91.5 goes away it becomes KPFT HD-2 Houston. At that point, they can still refer to themselves as KTRU all they want as long as they do a proper legal ID of KPFT-HD2 Houston at the top of the hour.

Rice federally trademarked "KTRU" and the phrase "Rice Radio" before they put it up for sale, so while somebody else could file for the call letters, if they tried to use them it could get messy.
 
TheBigA said:
Why did they have to pay to lease the HD channel from KPFT? Would it not have made more sense to just make the use of the same channel from KTRU for free as a condition of sale?

91.7 isn't HD. You can't ask UH to lease back something that isn't there.
 
johndavis said:
TheBigA said:
Why did they have to pay to lease the HD channel from KPFT? Would it not have made more sense to just make the use of the same channel from KTRU for free as a condition of sale?

91.7 isn't HD. You can't ask UH to lease back something that isn't there.

91.7 has the ability to have HD channels, just like KPFT. It just needs the equipment.
 
johndavis said:
... your top of hour ID will be KTRU Houston, KPFT HD-2 Houston and then after 91.7/91.5 goes away it becomes KPFT HD-2 Houston. At that point, they can still refer to themselves as KTRU all they want as long as they do a proper legal ID of KPFT-HD2 Houston at the top of the hour...

I reckon that they might go the corporate radio route and say "KPFT-HD 2 Houston" very, very fast somewhere near the TOH.
 
Wonder if the "Save KTRU" gang will now withdraw their formal objections to the sale with the FCC?

Looks like sanity finally triumphed over delusion. The sale of 91.7 wasn't going to be stopped, anyway. This is a good outcome for all parties involved. Anyone objecting needs to stop living in the 1960's.

The best things: This will speed the launch of KUHC, as well as the revamp of KUHF; and will help promote the additional programming options that HD radio provides.
 
So KTRU fans will get their programming on KPFT HD channel 2. Ho hum.

As one who worked at KUHF for nearly 18 years, and watched the enormously expensive addition of HD capability, I can testify that, so far, HD has not been worth the investment for KUHF.

For several years now, KUHF HD2 has carried NPR's daily lineup of talk and information programs. Over the past two years, KUHF has learned that almost no one is listening on an HD radio, because almost no one is buying them. People who DO own them complain constantly about the spotty reception.

Here's the cold hard truth: The vast majority of people who listen to KUHF's HD schedule are listening ON THE INTERNET. KTRU's owners and managers are going to have the same experience and learn the same lesson: HD radio is not worth the expense. They'll find that most of their audience will be listening Online. Just as it is with KUHF HD2, and HD3, the audience for KPFT's HD2 broadcasts will be so small they won't be able to measure it.

This is why KUHF is buying another radio station for pete sakes.
 
Well it looks like the Friends of KTRU group is not happy with the HD2 channel being offered by KPFT.

According to their website, they "...reject any notion that the dispute...has been resolved by the agreement
regarding the simulcasting of KTRU’s programming on KPFT’s HD2 channel."

The entire news release -- including their slam of HD radio -- is at http://savektru.org/.
 
dx7 said:
Well it looks like the Friends of KTRU group is not happy with the HD2 channel being offered by KPFT.

According to their website, they "...reject any notion that the dispute...has been resolved by the agreement
regarding the simulcasting of KTRU’s programming on KPFT’s HD2 channel."

The entire news release -- including their slam of HD radio -- is at http://savektru.org/.
And GM JOey Yang is quoted on the Pacifica press release as approving whole-heartedly the move to KPFT HD-2 and on the Save KTRU press release as having reservations. Hoo boy.
 
Making Friends of KTRU "happy" is not the issue. The goal is to make the FCC happy.

Joey Yang is acting like a spoiled child here. The University didn't have to make this deal. The sale would have been approved any way.
 
TheBigA said:
91.7 has the ability to have HD channels, just like KPFT. It just needs the equipment.

It's not worth putting HD on that stick. It's too far out of town. Any usable signal barely makes it downtown. With the digital signal running at a fraction of the analog, HD on 91.7 would cover more trees than people.

At least KPFT can put a usable HD signal over the Rice campus, which is more than you can say about 91.7 in analog.
 
You're forgetting that KPFT has already fronted the expense of HD on their signal several years ago; and are currently running BBC and some other irrelevant programming on it, now. So, for Rice, it's just a matter of leasing the time on the channel. That's preferrable to the expense of putting HD on the existing KTRU signal. And, I'm sure the two people that have HD radios will be happy to hear something besides BBC, come next week.
 
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