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Lack of consumer votes/reviews indicative of HD's failure

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700WLW

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"From Purchase "Funnel" to "Tumbler"

"Another research finding is that the shape of the traditional purchase "funnel" has changed. In the past, as consumers began researching their options, they steadily narrowed their choices all the way to purchase. The study found that there is opportunity for marketers to affect purchase decisions with brand messaging -- be it traditional, online, in-store or word of mouth -- even after consumers have decided where to buy. Sixty-three percent of consumers gather information when they first begin researching a purchase, 57 percent when they are narrowing down their options, 42 percent when they are deciding where to buy, and 51 percent when making their final decision. At each stage of the "purchase tumbler," the Internet is the first place that consumers turn to when gathering information. It is used more than any other resource (including friends and family, offline reviews and traditional media sources)."

http://www.amazon.com/Call-Action-Formulas-Improve-Results/dp/1932226397

Circuit City: "Boston Acoustics Recepter Radio HD"

Don't Buy Into This !
Reviewer: 700WLW from Maryland on Mon Oct 09 10:27:43 EDT 2006
419 out of 492 found this review helpful


http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Cust.../order/D/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs
 
700WLW said:
"From Purchase "Funnel" to "Tumbler"

"Another research finding is that the shape of the traditional purchase "funnel" has changed. In the past, as consumers began researching their options, they steadily narrowed their choices all the way to purchase. The study found that there is opportunity for marketers to affect purchase decisions with brand messaging -- be it traditional, online, in-store or word of mouth -- even after consumers have decided where to buy. Sixty-three percent of consumers gather information when they first begin researching a purchase, 57 percent when they are narrowing down their options, 42 percent when they are deciding where to buy, and 51 percent when making their final decision. At each stage of the "purchase tumbler," the Internet is the first place that consumers turn to when gathering information. It is used more than any other resource (including friends and family, offline reviews and traditional media sources)."

http://www.amazon.com/Call-Action-Formulas-Improve-Results/dp/1932226397

Circuit City: "Boston Acoustics Recepter Radio HD"

Don't Buy Into This !
Reviewer: 700WLW from Maryland on Mon Oct 09 10:27:43 EDT 2006
419 out of 492 found this review helpful


http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Cust.../order/D/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs

That might be true for most products, but we're talking about a radio, being marketed by radio stations almost incessantly. The average listener of a station broadcasting HD probably hears one HD ad per hour.

Being hit with so much information about HD, it's really unnecessary that anyone would need to research it online.
 
On another forum, which I can't mention here, there are discussions of individual radios that have continued for months, and go page after page after page. 700 looks where he knows the "evidence" isn't, and is shocked to find it missing. A very scientific approach!
 
700WLW said:
"From Purchase "Funnel" to "Tumbler"

"Another research finding is that the shape of the traditional purchase "funnel" has changed. In the past, as consumers began researching their options, they steadily narrowed their choices all the way to purchase. The study found that there is opportunity for marketers to affect purchase decisions with brand messaging -- be it traditional, online, in-store or word of mouth -- even after consumers have decided where to buy. Sixty-three percent of consumers gather information when they first begin researching a purchase, 57 percent when they are narrowing down their options, 42 percent when they are deciding where to buy, and 51 percent when making their final decision. At each stage of the "purchase tumbler," the Internet is the first place that consumers turn to when gathering information. It is used more than any other resource (including friends and family, offline reviews and traditional media sources)."

http://www.amazon.com/Call-Action-Formulas-Improve-Results/dp/1932226397

Circuit City: "Boston Acoustics Recepter Radio HD"

Don't Buy Into This !
Reviewer: 700WLW from Maryland on Mon Oct 09 10:27:43 EDT 2006
419 out of 492 found this review helpful


http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Cust.../order/D/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs

Geez, can't you be the least little bit inventive? You post two reviews under different screen names, but containing identical content and scores, and you expect us to believe they were written by two different people?

How about BOTH sides of this debate containing at least SOME honesty, OK?
 
Wanna' see votes for HD Radio? Do as I suggested elsewhere...Google "Love HD Radio" and look at what pops up. Link after link after link to posts by people who LOVE HD Radio. You know...VOTES/Reviews. Google "Hate HD Radio". There are FEWER links, not more. You want "votes"? There you have them. VOTES. From the web. The well of knowledge from which you believe all thirst is quenched!
 
dumber than a box of hair said:
Geez, can't you be the least little bit inventive? You post two reviews under different screen names, but containing identical content and scores, and you expect us to believe they were written by two different people?

How about BOTH sides of this debate containing at least SOME honesty, OK?

Honesty? You're talking about someone reviewing a product they've never owned or even used.
 
dumber than a box of hair said:
700WLW said:
"From Purchase "Funnel" to "Tumbler"

"Another research finding is that the shape of the traditional purchase "funnel" has changed. In the past, as consumers began researching their options, they steadily narrowed their choices all the way to purchase. The study found that there is opportunity for marketers to affect purchase decisions with brand messaging -- be it traditional, online, in-store or word of mouth -- even after consumers have decided where to buy. Sixty-three percent of consumers gather information when they first begin researching a purchase, 57 percent when they are narrowing down their options, 42 percent when they are deciding where to buy, and 51 percent when making their final decision. At each stage of the "purchase tumbler," the Internet is the first place that consumers turn to when gathering information. It is used more than any other resource (including friends and family, offline reviews and traditional media sources)."

http://www.amazon.com/Call-Action-Formulas-Improve-Results/dp/1932226397

Circuit City: "Boston Acoustics Recepter Radio HD"

Don't Buy Into This !
Reviewer: 700WLW from Maryland on Mon Oct 09 10:27:43 EDT 2006
419 out of 492 found this review helpful


http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Cust.../order/D/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs

Geez, can't you be the least little bit inventive? You post two reviews under different screen names, but containing identical content and scores, and you expect us to believe they were written by two different people?

How about BOTH sides of this debate containing at least SOME honesty, OK?

I submitted the first review, and it didn't show up for a couple of weeks, then I submitted the other review, and they both showed up at the same time; of course, I was not trying to post two separate reviews - I thought, the first one may have not gotten submitted correctly, because I got an error for it being too long (if you noticed, the second one is longer). It is amusing, that both reviews have received votes ! :D I hope, this makes you feel better ? ;)
 
Yeah...and how many "reviews" of yours begin with "First of all, HD doesn't stand for high definition......"?

One other thing...if you don't have a freakin' HD radio...in other words, don't have access to the product being "reviewed", how do you justify posting a "review" at all?
 
Mike Walker said:
Yeah...and how many "reviews" of yours begin with "First of all, HD doesn't stand for high definition......"?

One other thing...if you don't have a freakin' HD radio...in other words, don't have access to the product being "reviewed", how do you justify posting a "review" at all?

It's called, cut-n-paste ! :D
 
700WLW said:
It's called, cut-n-paste ! :D

Well, I don't think anyone would debate that you're the master of that. Didn't something like 40 of your posts just get deleted?
 
EasyPeazy said:
700WLW said:
It's called, cut-n-paste ! :D

Well, I don't think anyone would debate that you're the master of that. Didn't something like 40 of your posts just get deleted?

It was, two-against-one ! :D
 
700WLW said:
EasyPeazy said:
700WLW said:
It's called, cut-n-paste ! :D

Well, I don't think anyone would debate that you're the master of that. Didn't something like 40 of your posts just get deleted?

It was, two-against-one ! :D

No, you were just wasting everyone's time by posting the same garbage again and again. That's a TOS violation.
 
Again I ask...700 since you don't have an HD Radio, and have apparently never used one outside of a store (NO radio performs it's best in a typical store with fourescent lights, computers and monitors, tvs, steel infrastructure and concrete walls!), they why would you consider a "REVIEW" by you worth ANYTHING?
 
Mike Walker said:
Again I ask...700 since you don't have an HD Radio, and have apparently never used one outside of a store (NO radio performs it's best in a typical store with fourescent lights, computers and monitors, tvs, steel infrastructure and concrete walls!), they why would you consider a "REVIEW" by you worth ANYTHING?

"Receptor HD"

"I tried this radio at an electronics dealer and could only get two FM stations - the stations sounded exactly like regular analog AM/FM radio, but the analog AM/FM boom-boxes were able to get many stations."

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Cust.../order/D/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs

Actually, the analog boom-boxes were booming away, while the Receptor HD just received a couple of stations ! Sorry, that this thread has made all of you so angry ! :D
 
You tried it AT THE STORE. In a noisy environment. With no quality check...nothing familiar to you in the chain. REAL audio reviewers, in order to determine audio quality, will use something with which they are familiar to listen. Say plugging the audio output into an aux input on their stereo systems. Or hell, simply taking your favorite pair of headphones with you to the store would be a start. THEN you're comparing HD RADIO WITH ANALOG RADIO, not speakers with which you are not familiar, in a room whose acoustics are unknown to you (the biggest variable in sound systems is the ROOM IN WHICH THEY ARE AUDITIONED!), etc.

HD is vastly superior to analog in a few ways that could be completely obscured in a showroom...noise level (I guarantee the noise level in the room was so high you couldn't hear the noise threshold of analog FM...at probably -50 to -60db, much less digital, which is as much as 40db quieter), distortion (obscured by other sounds around you, and the fact that you're not familiar with the speakers!), and frequency response (HD has FAR greater clarity at high frequencies...because there's no 75us pre-emphasis...and to a lesser degree, because frequency response is more extended. Here's a question 700...DO YOU KNOW THAT THE SPEAKER IN THE BOSTON ACOUSTICS DOESN'T ROLL OFF AT FREQUENCIES ABOVE 10khz, swamping your ability to hear the last two types of differences? Of course you don't know. Neither do I. But I sure know the response characteristics of my speakers at home! Hence the suggestion that you should use either a system you're familiar with...YOURS AT HOME, or at least your favorite headphones. Hell, it's not just radio. NO audio gear can be fairily auditioned in most stores, which is why reputable dealers have always allowed home demos.

Even then you're not getting scientifically valid results, because YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LISTENING TO. You carry your biases with you. Valid tests should be done double-blind, with you having no freaking idea whether you're comparing HD to analog, cd to cassette, or PVC siding to brick!

Think that's too much trouble? Getting fair test results IS a lot of trouble. Which is why I'd never give a crap about what someone I have never met says on a blog. P-L-E-A-S-E! I grew up in an era with REAL audio JOURNALISTS, as serious about their profession as journalists covering any other field...people like Len Feldman, Bert Whyte, and yes Julian Hirsch, who dared to believe that most things in audio were MEASURABLE.

Let me get this straight...you had ONE experience with ONE radio in ONE store, and concluded that since you couldn't get more than two stations in HD on the Boston Acoustics, IN THE STORE, HD is "defective". From that "experience" you conclude that others who own the radios and are using them in real homes made of wood and brick, and getting great results, are either delusional or lying. People like me who went to the trouble of posting recordings of what HD actually sounds like are the "enemy". People like you, who have listen to one raido in one store on one occasion are the "authority". That's reality in your bizarro world!

Look, MOST people who have compared the Boston to other radios have found it to be "sensitivity challenged". My first exposure to HD was last summer, at Tweeter in Winston Salem NC. Surrounded by multiple 100kw flame-throwers, I literally couldnt' get ANYTHING in HD. The RF level must have been high enough to light a light bulb in that location, but NUTTIN' on the Boston. Did I conclude that HD was "defective"? No, but I sure left with some doubts. I wrestled for months with whether to buy a radio as a test, and asked numerous engineers if they thought I'd get anything. "Your guess is as good as mine" was the almost unanimous response followed by "but I'm really curious, so let me know!"

300 dollars is a lot for me to pay for an experiment, so I never ordered a Receptor HD, despite a burning desire to learn the "truth" about HD. Would it actually reach me 60 to 80 miles from the nearest stations? Well the Black Friday special at Radio Shack was just the nudge I needed. A HUNDRED FREAKIN' BUCKS, and I could get my money back if it didn't pick up anything. HOW COULD I NOT HAVE TRIED IT? Well it exceeded ANYTHING I had read that HD was capable of (in terms of distance, and stability with a simple indoor antenna). MOST PEOPLE getting 80+ mile HD reception are using outdoor antennas and rotors. Hell, I'd venture that most people getting clean FM STEREO reception are using ourdoor antennas and rotors.

It was at this point that I realized that HD went just as far as CLEAN, noise-free FM Stereo. In my experience, if a station is HD, and you can get a clean, noise-free, non-blended analog signal, YOU CAN GET HD. Furthermore, there are MANY circumstances where the analog is afflicted with multipath distortion, and/or blending from weak signal conditions, but the HD is rock solid. So in these circumstances, HD PROVIDES A CLEAN SIGNAL AT A GREATER DISTANCE THAN HD! This is what I found by doing a real test.

At the most you determined that the Receptor HD didn't perform well at the store. HOW DARE YOU not only apply that as a blanket condemnation of all other radios (which by your own admission you haven't tried), but actually post "reviews" on multiple sites of products you've never used?

If I went into a store in the middle of the day, picked up a multiband portable, got no AM stations, and concluded that AM itself was "defective", what would that say about analog AM technology? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! At best it would say I was misinformed. At worst, that I wasn't anyone that any serious person should ever turn to for "advice".
 
At Radio Shack and Circuit City, all of the analog radios that I tried on FM, were able to get many stations - the HD radio that I tried, was able to get only two stations. Not that it has really mattered, with lack of consumer interest in HD, but I bet, that I have helped cost the Cartel a few HD radios ! :D
 
Mike Walker said:
Again I ask...700 since you don't have an HD Radio, and have apparently never used one outside of a store (NO radio performs it's best in a typical store with fourescent lights, computers and monitors, tvs, steel infrastructure and concrete walls!), they why would you consider a "REVIEW" by you worth ANYTHING?

"What happens when cell phones can hijack your radio?"

"LG Electronics and Sprint have just released a new phone, the Fusic, that not only streams channels from Music Choice (if you pay the freight) and downloads music (like many other phones do), but it is the first phone to include an iPod-style FM transmitter."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/03/what_happens_wh.html#comments
 
700WLW said:
Mike Walker said:
Again I ask...700 since you don't have an HD Radio, and have apparently never used one outside of a store (NO radio performs it's best in a typical store with fourescent lights, computers and monitors, tvs, steel infrastructure and concrete walls!), they why would you consider a "REVIEW" by you worth ANYTHING?

"What happens when cell phones can hijack your radio?"

"LG Electronics and Sprint have just released a new phone, the Fusic, that not only streams channels from Music Choice (if you pay the freight) and downloads music (like many other phones do), but it is the first phone to include an iPod-style FM transmitter."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/03/what_happens_wh.html#comments

Don't waste your time guys, yet another link that contains zero references to HD Radio and is totally irrelevant to the discussion at hand. It's about a cell phone with built in modulator. Whoopee!
 
EasyPeazy said:
700WLW said:
Mike Walker said:
Again I ask...700 since you don't have an HD Radio, and have apparently never used one outside of a store (NO radio performs it's best in a typical store with fourescent lights, computers and monitors, tvs, steel infrastructure and concrete walls!), they why would you consider a "REVIEW" by you worth ANYTHING?

"What happens when cell phones can hijack your radio?"

"LG Electronics and Sprint have just released a new phone, the Fusic, that not only streams channels from Music Choice (if you pay the freight) and downloads music (like many other phones do), but it is the first phone to include an iPod-style FM transmitter."

http://www.hear2.com/2007/03/what_happens_wh.html#comments

Don't waste your time guys, yet another link that contains zero references to HD Radio and is totally irrelevant to the discussion at hand. It's about a cell phone with built in modulator. Whoopee!
What is it with the posst on this site? The people posting must be children because they only see radio as a music delivery system. Radio is much more than that. Of course if you don't own a house or send your kids to school or have any investment in your community I can see how you might come to this conclusion but it is really a immature, shallow view of life. I mean when 9/11 occured did you say to yourself, I wonder where I can listen to the latest song or maybe you wanted to know what was happening to this country or to your town?
 
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