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Lake Erie (North Coast of Ohio) weekend of 5/9/09

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gr8oldies

I've spent a few weekends in this area (Vermilion OH) right on the lakeshore. I don't know that anything I heard was DX as I'm still getting acclimated to the band in that area but I did note a few interesting things.

103.1 A CBC French station i don't remember getting during any of my previous trips )anyone know where this is?). It was anywhere from strong to gone.

84.3 CKSY Chatham, ONT..pretty regular there with varying signal strengths. I've noted it once in tghe Dayton area.

88.7 CIMX-1 and 93.9 CIDR (note to Radio Locator: It's not still CKLW-FM). strong day and night.


Detroit signals: Depends..I heard WDET on 101.9, WRIF on 101.1 pretty strong but no WOMC. 95-5 Detroit was covered by Cleveland's Fish.

AM: I hearfd CBW out of Winnipeg mixed with another 990 (maybe the one from Montreal?). There were some other highlights but darn if I remember them.
 
Bodies of fresh water seem to enhance AM signals, i.e WJR Detroit and WGR Buffalo. I am curious if there is any data supporting this.
 
gr8oldies said:
I've spent a few weekends in this area (Vermilion OH) right on the lakeshore. I don't know that anything I heard was DX as I'm still getting acclimated to the band in that area but I did note a few interesting things.

103.1 A CBC French station i don't remember getting during any of my previous trips )anyone know where this is?). It was anywhere from strong to gone.

84.3 CKSY Chatham, ONT..pretty regular there with varying signal strengths. I've noted it once in tghe Dayton area.

88.7 CIMX-1 and 93.9 CIDR (note to Radio Locator: It's not still CKLW-FM). strong day and night.


Detroit signals: Depends..I heard WDET on 101.9, WRIF on 101.1 pretty strong but no WOMC. 95-5 Detroit was covered by Cleveland's Fish.

AM: I hearfd CBW out of Winnipeg mixed with another 990 (maybe the one from Montreal?). There were some other highlights but darn if I remember them.
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88.7 (89X when I was in college at Toledo) and 93.9 were basically locals in Toledo; far stronger than the Detroit stations that were the same distance from us as Windsor. I've personally heard 89X all the way to Cleveland and on really good nights much of the way to Columbus.
I picked up 93.9 down to Findlay once; I'm sure Wild 93.9 out of Lima obliterates CIDR in many areas where it once could be heard.
 
Len14043 said:
Bodies of fresh water seem to enhance AM signals, i.e WJR Detroit and WGR Buffalo. I am curious if there is any data supporting this.
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I've never seen that question addressed. Is there any difference between fresh water & salt water as far as conductivity goes?
 
CJOM (going even further back) on 88.7 was a frequent visitor in Coldwater OH. I've heard them in the Dayton area recently. I had one freak reception of CIDR in Springfield last year. When it was CKLW-FM doing oldies, I had recieved 93.9 in Logansport, IN several times.

Last weekend I recieved CFCO on 630 at night as well as day, CKWW on 580, whatever CHWO's new calls are in the daytime and CHOK, Sarnia during the day.
 
CJOM (going even further back) on 88.7 was a frequent visitor in Coldwater OH. I've heard them in the Dayton area recently. I had one freak reception of CIDR in Springfield last year. When it was CKLW-FM doing oldies, I had recieved 93.9 in Logansport, IN several times.
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That freak reception of 88.7 and 93.9 is impressive, but not surprising. Both stations used to be wide open around here. 88.7 still is, but probably not for much longer. I see a construction permit for a new K-Love station on 88.7 in Rochester, IN. That station along with the new Smile FM in Benton Harbor, MI (are they even at full-power yet? I can't even hear them here even when conditions are favorable) will probably kill off any regular reception beyond 125 miles for CIMX in this region. I have personally heard CIMX as far away as suburban Cleveland, Mansfield, OH and South Haven, MI.

93.9 is still a doable DX frequency in my location. 94.1 WVIC isn't quite strong enough to put bleed on the frequency and WBCT's debilitating I-BLOC has been shut off for quite some time now. I was able to hear Indy's class A 93.9 several times before the 2003 sign-on of WLWD, pretty much stomping out anything else to the south. However all other directions have been great for me. I can hear Chicago's WLIT to the west and Windsor's CIDR to the east. Pointing my antenna to the north has brought WAVC from Mio, MI and WNBY from Newberry, MI and a slight jog to the NW has brought WDOR-Sturgeon Bay, WI and Catholic WMMA also from Wisconsin.

I read a DX report pre-2003 where a guy driving I-69 near Fort Wayne heard CIDR with a 'local quality' signal. In fact, it was so strong that he thought it was Fort Wayne's (at the time) 80's station. Pretty close call, but Fort Wayne's station is actually at 94.1.
 
BobOnTheJob said:
Is there any difference between fresh water & salt water as far as conductivity goes?
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Yes, there's a huge difference. As I mentioned in another thread salt water greatly increases AM propagation: http://boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php/topic,124674.msg1018872.html#msg1018872 Other than offering an unobstructed path fresh water does nothing to increase a station's coverage.

To offer a little info on specific stations mentioned in this thread, the ground conductivity at WJR's site is listed as 8 millimhos per meter, the same as WGR. If you're on the receiving end along the Lake Erie shore it's generally in the 8 range as well, but on the western end of the lake it jumps up to 15. I'll emphasize once again (as noted in that prior post) that these values can vary substantially over land but salt water is always regarded as having 5,000 mmhos conductivity.
 
88.7 and 93.9 are fairly regular catches in the Columbus, OH area
(and I actually got 88.7 once on top of a large hill in Pittsburgh).
 
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