LAS VEGAS HAS A DANCE STATION JUST LIKE PULSE 87.7 ITS CALLED 94.5 THE VIBEhttp:

[blazin2009]

ARE STATION WAS LIKE PULSE 87.7 YOU CAN ONLY GET IT IN DEFFERENT AREAS OF LAS VEGAS BUT NOW THEY BOOST THE SIGNAL IT COMES IN VERRY CLEAR ALL OVER LAS VEGAS AREA AND UTAH AND ARIZONA. http://www.vibevegas.com/home/

 

[d21ofnj]

I've listened to Vibe since day one, it's awesome the signal got boosted and is hitting the hot spots of Las Vegas. I did ask people in the St. George area if Vibe is also coming in crystal clear.

 

[dj_quad4]

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[davideduardo]

I've listened to Vibe since day one, it's awesome the signal got boosted and is hitting the hot spots of Las Vegas. I did ask people in the St. George area if Vibe is also coming in crystal clear.

They put a 340 watt booster on to the NE of the Strip; it does not get a 64 dbu signal beyond Nellis AFB into the urban area of the market. Many decades of study have shown that 95% of all reported in home and at work listening takes placle inside the 64 dbu signal.

Whether it is heard in St george or not matters little; St. George is not in the Las Vegas MSA and has no bearing on this station's success.

 

[nd2023]

I've listened to Vibe since day one, it's awesome the signal got boosted and is hitting the hot spots of Las Vegas. I did ask people in the St. George area if Vibe is also coming in crystal clear.

They put a 340 watt booster on to the NE of the Strip; it does not get a 64 dbu signal beyond Nellis AFB into the urban area of the market. Many decades of study have shown that 95% of all reported in home and at work listening takes placle inside the 64 dbu signal.

Whether it is heard in St george or not matters little; St. George is not in the Las Vegas MSA and has no bearing on this station's success.

I thought you only bashed New York City dance stations. And yes, it is heard on I-15 even north of Cedar City, Utah, all the way down to a few miles into California. This is the dance station with the 2nd largest signal, only behind Sirius XM BPM.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, there are more cactus than people in the 64 dBu contour of 94.5 The Vibe.

 

[davideduardo]

I thought you only bashed New York City dance stations.

I have no need to bash any stations in that format in the US; most bash themselves with no help from me. Yet Party has the biggest chance of any in succeeding as the expense structure and format have a greater liklihood of working, although only as a very narrow appeal station.

And yes, it is heard on I-15 even north of Cedar City, Utah, all the way down to a few miles into California.

I could hear Tripoli, Lybia, nearly every day on my car radio in San Juan for a decade or more. Tripoli never made the San Juan book, athough.

This is the dance station with the 2nd largest signal, only behind Sirius XM BPM.

Outside of the small class B FM areas, 100 kw FMs are a dime a dozen.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, there are more cactus than people in the 64 dBu contour of 94.5 The Vibe.

Not too many cacti in that desert area... they are more on the Sonora desert and the Mohave. But the rattler count is definitely higher than the people count.

 

[wgliradio]

Yet Party has the biggest chance of any in succeeding as the expense structure and format have a greater liklihood of working, although only as a very narrow appeal station.

I would be so sure. The parties involved in JVC have been known to turn wine into water. John and Morey sunk all the gains from the WLIR sale into print media (and bad print media at that).

 

[d21ofnj]

I have no need to bash any stations in that format in the US; most bash themselves with no help from me. Yet Party has the biggest chance of any in succeeding as the expense structure and format have a greater liklihood of working, although only as a very narrow appeal station.

WHHAATT?!?!?!? After YOU completely ripped Party apart back in the Pulse/Dance posts back in the summer, saying Party only had about 1500 listeners and now you're kissing their a$$??

 

[d21ofnj]

Yet Party has the biggest chance of any in succeeding as the expense structure and format have a greater liklihood of working, although only as a very narrow appeal station.

I would be so sure. The parties involved in JVC have been known to turn wine into water. John and Morey sunk all the gains from the WLIR sale into print media (and bad print media at that).

JVC had nothing to do with the issues of Jarad & Morey. JVC wasn't around the time when Jarad & Morey decided to sell the 92.7 frequency to Univision and killed WLIR to now a sports format far out into Montauk.

 

[d21ofnj]

I thought you only bashed New York City dance stations.

I have no need to bash any stations in that format in the US; most bash themselves with no help from me.

Yea, then explain this:

How about switch to a dance music format and call it Energy 92.7 FM?

You know, that is a great idea! In fact, I think no matter what station we are discussing, dance would be a suitable replacement for any format flip. With the track record of the format in this market, what could go wrong?

Yeah, I agree. Like, totally.

And the reference to the 92.7 Energy in Chicago that bled money for several years is really nifty.

Hey, where's that girl Buffy? There is a vampire that refuses to die that needs to be staked.

How biased of a statement is that comparing vampires to dance stations?!  You're basically saying that dance stations needs to be killed off the dial.  What's up with that?!?!  How about all the other formats that TRULY need to get off the air but are not, but ONLY dance formats need to be killed?!?!  Well, guess what, if dance music stations are like vampires and refuse to die, GUILTY AS CHARGED!  We won't EVER DIE, and you are just gonna have to deal with it!

 

[Up_N_Down_The_Dial]

I've listened to Vibe since day one, it's awesome the signal got boosted and is hitting the hot spots of Las Vegas. I did ask people in the St. George area if Vibe is also coming in crystal clear.

They put a 340 watt booster on to the NE of the Strip; it does not get a 64 dbu signal beyond Nellis AFB into the urban area of the market. Many decades of study have shown that 95% of all reported in home and at work listening takes placle inside the 64 dbu signal.

Whether it is heard in St george or not matters little; St. George is not in the Las Vegas MSA and has no bearing on this station's success.

I thought you only bashed New York City dance stations. And yes, it is heard on I-15 even north of Cedar City, Utah, all the way down to a few miles into California. This is the dance station with the 2nd largest signal, only behind Sirius XM BPM.
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, there are more cactus than people in the 64 dBu contour of 94.5 The Vibe.

It does not matter how large your signal is... it only matters how many people are in the city grade signal... There are tons of 100kw stations in Montana... but about 5 people in the listening area... but with the highly directional signal which is only 3kw broadcasting from Queens.. 87.7 will cover FAR more people than some full signal large market stations...

 

[CHRles]

I've always been disappointed with stations like Vibe in Vegas and the former Energy Arizona due to their signals. Why bother launching a format such as Dance, which is a hard sell to begin with and its primary audience lives within major urban areas.
St. George is a well known ass a great retirement community not as a haven for Dance radio.

 

[TonySantiago]

Okay, I have something very important to say about this. It's been bugging me since I left home reading this, and being on my lunch break I can let this out now.

CACTUS??? ;D

 

[d21ofnj]

I've always been disappointed with stations like Vibe in Vegas and the former Energy Arizona due to their signals. Why bother launching a format such as Dance, which is a hard sell to begin with and its primary audience lives within major urban areas.
St. George is a well known ass a great retirement community not as a haven for Dance radio.

It was just a question, since the coverage map shows it hits St. George, UT, part of arizona, and Nevada. Just wondering if anyone from St. George is listening to Vibe, that's all.

http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=FM1244170.html

 

[davideduardo]

How biased of a statement is that comparing vampires to dance stations?!

The comparison is broader than that... any station or format that is not performing needs to be "staked" in these hard times. With the PPM, we know with greater certainty and much greater speed whether something is not working... and just as the TV operators know that a show is not working in its first or second showing, radio can now make that kind of rapid decision.

You're basically saying that dance stations needs to be killed off the dial.

Not the station, the fomat... whatever the format is... if it is not performing.

What's up with that?!?! How about all the other formats that TRULY need to get off the air but are not, but ONLY dance formats need to be killed?!?!

Of course, I did not say that. In the context of dance, I am saying that a format that does not achieve results needs to be changed or refocused. For example, the change in focus and expense structure of Party (vs. Pulse) may make the format / facility viable on a very limited scale. In this case, changing costs and expectations may turn out to be the answer. Or not.

Well, guess what, if dance music stations are like vampires and refuse to die, GUILTY AS CHARGED! We won't EVER DIE, and you are just gonna have to deal with it!

Why would any owner keep a non-performing format instead of something with greater potential?

 

[davideduardo]

It was just a question, since the coverage map shows it hits St. George, UT, part of arizona, and Nevada. Just wondering if anyone from St. George is listening to Vibe, that's all.

Since there is no Arbitron data, and I am uncertain if any other company rates the St. George / Cedar City area, it's hard to answer that question.

 

[Doug D]

In some markets dance along with the right pop and rhythmic product can do well. We forget that our favorite stations back in the day that played dance didn't just only play it.

You have to pick the best couple of records and allow them to grow along side familar hits.

Pulse did well for its situation, but if you did it above 92 and made it more familiar, it could be a top performer.

 

[d21ofnj]

The comparison is broader than that... any station or format that is not performing needs to be "staked" in these hard times. With the PPM, we know with greater certainty and much greater speed whether something is not working... and just as the TV operators know that  a show is not working in its first or second showing, radio can now make that kind of rapid decision.

Okay, G-Rock had higher numbers than Hit, but they were "staked".  WQXR tremenesly dropped and we know what that issue is, so because of their low numbers I guess they should be "staked" too. 

Not the station, the fomat... whatever the format is... if it is not performing.

So what gives to the formats that are completely duplicated as in 5 CHR's and 4 classic rock stations score so high when they are all the same?

Of course, I did not say that. In the context of dance, I am saying that a format that does not achieve results needs to be changed or refocused. For example, the change in focus and expense structure of Party (vs. Pulse) may make the format / facility viable on a very limited scale. In this case, changing costs and expectations may turn out to be the answer. Or not.

It's just funny that every response you say of a format failing is strictly on dance.  When othr formats flip, like country, alternative, jazz, hot talk, modern rock, it's a different story. 

Why would any owner keep a non-performing format instead of something with greater potential?

Then why are you keeping La Que Buena?

 

[davideduardo]

WQXR tremenesly dropped and we know what that issue is, so because of their low numbers I guess they should be "staked" too.

WQXR was "staked" when the NYT sold it. It's revenues, like nearly all commercial classical stations, had virtually evaporated, and the station was worth more to the Times dead than alive. The format moved, as a non-commercial station, to 105.9. Non-comms often exist to present formats that can't be commercially successful. On this one, you are veritably hoist on your own petard.

So what gives to the formats that are completely duplicated as in 5 CHR's and 4 classic rock stations score so high when they are all the same?

There are two true CHRs in NY. And each has a different approach, one with more personality and a more extensive library, while the other is music intensive with amazingly fast rotations. The three others I imagine are statinons that partisans of each would not confuse (whatever they are) and folks in the industry would consider totally separate formats.

It's just funny that every response you say of a format failing is strictly on dance. When othr formats flip, like country, alternative, jazz, hot talk, modern rock, it's a different story.

No format has had so many failures and an almost total lack of success as dance in the last decade. In fact, Party on Long Island is about the only real success story.... it now beats legendary WLNG in billing, in fact. And my point about the former Pulse is that the Party management may pull it off based on a better cost structure and lowered expectations.

Why would any owner keep a non-performing format instead of something with greater potential?

Then why are you keeping La Que Buena?

Performance is based on revenue. Que Buena is the only station directly serving the million or so Mexican group in New York. There are ad buys specifically for the group, and the cume indicates a significant delivery of it.

While there is no market for a 1-share station in general market, there is for the Hispanic market, where a 1 share in general market is a 10 to 12 share among Spanish dominant Hispanics.

 

[d21ofnj]

WQXR was "staked" when the NYT sold it. It's revenues, like nearly all commercial classical stations, had virtually evaporated, and the station was worth more to the Times dead than alive. The format moved, as a non-commercial station, to 105.9. Non-comms often exist to present formats that can't be commercially successful. On this one, you are veritably hoist on your own petard.

First of all, I ain't setting no trap for someone else. Second, regardless if it's non-commercial or commercial, as you stated this for Pulse, WQXR shouldn't be any different. Third, Univision and WNYC was also involved in the "staked" of WQXR, so if anything, you helped demise WQXR.

There are two true CHRs in NY. And each has a different approach, one with more personality and a more extensive library, while the other is music intensive with amazingly fast rotations. The three others I imagine are statinons that partisans of each would not confuse (whatever they are) and folks in the industry would consider totally separate formats.

Well, in the ears of the listeners and by what is on rotation, the only difference that separates these stations are by their brand name. Sad, but true.

No format has had so many failures and an almost total lack of success as dance in the last decade. In fact, Party on Long Island is about the only real success story.... it now beats legendary WLNG in billing, in fact. And my point about the former Pulse is that the Party management may pull it off based on a better cost structure and lowered expectations.

Energy SF, Energy Arizona, C89.5, (since we are going non-commercial too), and believe it or not, PULSE!!, had shown that a dance station definitely works. Unfortunately, with the lack of intelligence by the mainstream still labeling dance as "techno" and advertisers looks at dance and thinks "we are not investing in druggies, booze, and a sex scene" as what you guys think, and the fact that when CHR stations play a dance track or a remix, they NEVER acknowledge the actual DJ that remixed it, but they say it's the station's "own remix" You know it, the back knows it, and the corps know it. If dance works in San Fran, Arizona, NYC, the Jersey Shore, Chicago, Las Vegas, LA, Houston, Miami, Orlando, and even a middle of nowhere town like Binghamton, NY, then I don't know why all of you can't give this a chance. I have yet to see CC, CBS, Citadel, or any other multi billion dollar company ever tried a dance format, so they shouldn't be talking if they NEVER tried it before.

Performance is based on revenue. Que Buena is the only station directly serving the million or so Mexican group in New York. There are ad buys specifically for the group, and the cume indicates a significant delivery of it.

While there is no market for a 1-share station in general market, there is for the Hispanic market, where a 1 share in general market is a 10 to 12 share among Spanish dominant Hispanics.

What about the club scene? What about that community for those dedicated for the nightlife and to get their business promoted. Unfortunately, Internet Radio streams cannot ir revenue or else a big royalty charge will be penilized by the Copyright Royalty Board. IN THE JERSEY SHORE, so many bars and nightclubs love to get their ads on the air. However, big greedy advertisers in NYC specifically, look at "local" businesses as a joke. I am not pulling this out of thin air, I am telling you this because I was out there promoting my station, and getting to know my area. Dance music has their own community, i.e., Latinos, Guidos, LBGT, (yes, there is a gay community in Asbury Park) and all others that respect and love dance music and would love nothing for even an LPFM to play some dance in the shore. LI has Party, and had them for years, so why not the shore, which is reconized and most popular with MTV coming down here, have a dance station.