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LOVE FM NEW SATURDAY NIGHT LINE-UP (MIxers)

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cutupkid

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Heard through the vine that Brian Middleton and Tim Schommer Put together a group of mixers for saturdays show:
Consisting of both Brian and Tim, in addition to Chicago veterans DJ gooch, Wesley the Whiz kid, and Martin Boogieman Luna. :)
 
Here is the story but does not say the day or time.

http://www.timspinnin.com/

Maybe it is a new Friday night mix show? If I find out more info I will let you know.

I have to think DJ JM3 is still mixing in some capacity. Last Saturday's show was outstanding!
 
I have talked to JM3 , and he knows nothing of this....

But then again management has not replied to his emails.....He built that show...it would be a slap in the face to dump him........
 
Ok.

I found some more info and on DJ the Whizz Kid's Myspace page it does indeed say Saturday nights, but no time.

http://www.myspace.com/wesleydawhiz

That sucks if DJ JM3 has no idea that this is happening. Hopefully it is in addition to his show not replacing his show.

Wow just think about Middleton and Schommer teaming up now. Bobby D., TKC, and Markski on Nine FM, and the Kiss Beatfreaks getting bright and throwing old school to boot.

I would be very scared if I was B 96. Nobody with the history is mixing on their Street Mix anymore. Bye Bye Julian and DJ Speed. All left from back when the other mixers were there is Mixin Marc and Dan Morrell.

Now it makes total sense why Tim declined Nine FM. Something told me when I heard Brian Middleton join the station he would do something and it was not just doing weekends.

Overall the Chicago listener are winning. Never seen this much mix show choices in a long time. I have not even included Power and GCI to the equation.

I will contact Love FM directly to see if I find out any more about what is happening. But you are right. They are not good at replying to my e-mails even when I complimented them about last week's show.
 
I found from DJ JM3- he is no longer with LOVE-fm.... According to JM3 his sound was" too Urban AC" for the audience love fm wanted according to station bosses......

They felt bad that he got the word from a message board...I hope that someone will pick him up...
 
Wow. If you talk to DJ JM3 tell him he did an outstanding job no matter what Love FM said. I wonder if this is an overreaction to their summer ratings book as they took a surprising big tumble and they are in the process of tweaking their format. Makes it appear they want to have a "B 96" type 90s music mix show rather than an Classic Dance, Disco, Motown (their slogan) type mix show.

Sounds hypocritical to me..... Are they true rhythmic AC programmed for Chicago or a safe cookie cutter Rhythmic AC?

I know radio is a cruel business. Don't be surprised if this was in the works pending Brian Middleton getting hired at Love FM. I don't blame him or any of the new mixers, I blame management over there who can't man up and tell someone honestly they are going in a new direction. Just sounds fishy to me.

I will still tune in because I feel like Middleton and Schommer leaving was the start of B 96 forgetting where they came from and losing some of its audience for good. People listened to them simply by name alone and their mixes were at times better than the big guys like Bobby D, Markski, and TKC who I personally think are unlistenable and too uncommercialized at Nine FM and why maybe Tim said thanks but no thanks as his mixes would have stuck out like a sore thumb. Once the buzz starts that they are mixing again, people will tune in.

Chicago loves its freestyle and I am sure Tim will not forget his roots nor Middleton forget his Hitmixes back in the day.

This exact same thing that happened to JM3 is why I decided not to persue radio after college. Such a shame radio is all about immediate results than giving a idea a chance to mature.

Also I don't think artists like Yes, Police, Rick Astley, Madonna that DJ JM3 mixed quite a bit was very Urban AC to me. What a pathetic response. If only I was a PD..... Sorry to rant.
 
What you stated was true. The writing was on the wall when middleton got hired.....

...JM3 did what V103 refuses to do...deliver a solid dance show.....not laden with safe road hits....just good dance music....
 
Problem with Jm3 is that he couldn't get over himself. His held his mixes way too long. I've been mixing for over 15 years now. I've done over 50 remixes for record companies and can tell you that when the break is over you're out and in to the next song! You don't let the song trail into the vocals of the next song and then fade it out 20 seconds in. It sounds BAD!

Tim and Brian are top notch guys! They can throw down with the best of em. I live in NYC now and look forward to streaming them online.

Go get em guys!
 
blowmonkey105 said:
Problem with Jm3 is that he couldn't get over himself. His held his mixes way too long. I've been mixing for over 15 years now. I've done over 50 remixes for record companies and can tell you that when the break is over you're out and in to the next song! You don't let the song trail into the vocals of the next song and then fade it out 20 seconds in. It sounds BAD!

Tim and Brian are top notch guys! They can throw down with the best of em. I live in NYC now and look forward to streaming them online.

Go get em guys!
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Thats Bull!!!! He rode blends, but most of the time he was in and out...not playing the longer than 3 mins of the song and 16 beats maybe 32 beats of a blend at the most....As long as the vocals dont clash its no issue....He did better than most of the cats out now.....If you heard some the Mixes he did with Steve Hurley on Tom Joyner you would know where his skills are.....
 
What is up with this station!?!?!?! There is a DJ JM3 mix airing as we speak!!!! What a slap in the face and terrible PR move this whole thing has been.

You change the direction of the show and have new mixers.... fine.

You don't tell the guy who made the show possible and he finds out on a message board.... Not cool personally but that is radio sometimes... ok I don't agree but fine.

Now to rub salt into the wounds you have the audacity to air his mixes again tonight a couple of days after you had to let him go!!!!!??? That is where I have a big problem with.

I would be worried if I were these DJs coming in even though they are Brian Middleton and Tim Spinnin Schommer among other well knowns. Almost setting them up to fail from the beginning. Keep an eye on your back because the minute they feel you are too "underground," too "ghetto house," too "B 96 ish", or too "freestyish" they may kick you to the curb via a grapevine/messageboard like what happened to JM3.

Unless that is a way to give JM3 a nice farewell, this may be the ultimate slap in the face I have seen in quite some time for a mix show other than when Julian jumped back to B 96 while Kiss was still airing his mixes!!! That was huge egg on their face although they are laughing now.

And we wonder why radio is in the terrible shape it is........ I just have a bad vibe about all of this. It could end the way Frankie did at Nine FM and Julian did when he jumped to Kiss. Over before it even began.
 
Wow, here let me give you a lesson so you all know the realities.

First off, V103's mix show has big numbers. Kenny's my partner, Armando's like a brother, it does nothing for me, I'm not who they're after. It works and works big time.

John and I have had multiple conversations about this and what happened to him is what happens when you don't deliver. What John was doing wasn't working for them

In his defence, the station is brutal. It's pathetic now. It's 80s pop and 70s disco and lame ass pop. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard a station so screwed up in years.

John's well aware of my call on their 1.7 rating months ago as well as what I thought he should've been doing. This station is doomed in the direction it's now heading and a 1.5 is right around the corner, no matter who's doing the mixing.

He's a great guy but you gotta deliver, you can't play music for the House Heads, they're not listening.
 
wbmx said:
Wow, here let me give you a lesson so you all know the realities.

First off, V103's mix show has big numbers. Kenny's my partner, Armando's like a brother, it does nothing for me, I'm not who they're after. It works and works big time.

John and I have had multiple conversations about this and what happened to him is what happens when you don't deliver. What John was doing wasn't working for them

In his defence, the station is brutal. It's pathetic now. It's 80s pop and 70s disco and lame ass pop. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard a station so screwed up in years.

John's well aware of my call on their 1.7 rating months ago as well as what I thought he should've been doing. This station is doomed in the direction it's now heading and a 1.5 is right around the corner, no matter who's doing the mixing.

He's a great guy but you gotta deliver, you can't play music for the House Heads, they're not listening.
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WBMX is right....for that audience what JM3 does isnt large enough...there are house heads listening but not enough to bring large numbers.....It also needs to be heavily promoted....You cant put a show on and not promote it with a few day part liners....you billboards, tv ads, etc......Also have the mixer at station events...and a web presence......

V103 doent have any real competiton...they win by default....

Also JM3 did bring it to a 2.5 from 1.3 in one book...but WBMX did call it right they did drop in the last book.....

Also JM3 didnt play all house..He played everything.( the 10pm hour was an exception-it was the disco hour)...but he did get a little "free spirited" in the last month... I enjoyed it, but im only one person.....
 
And you can't have the station not promote anything like that, it's just stupid and they never did. The air talent has no business (for the most part) being there, they're terrible for that format. They have no passion, didn't live the music and most of them in private probably hated 90 percent of the songs back in the day so they have no passion for the format which is now, NO FORMAT, just a mess. Prolly hedging for Fresh FM which is a big, big mistake.

Also, going from KC to Chas Jankel? TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE into both those songs. They had him on a leash but he had freedom too. He tried to please his house heads and their demo and it sank him. Going from 1975 to 1982, outside formats can have an adverse effect. The sound of the songs, the arrangement styles, the key they're in, the sound quality from drum machines to real drums all go a long way to making it sound un appealing and a major tune out for most.

Also note, here's hardly any classic dance being played, at least if you ran a perceptual study, no one would know because they're not playing much of what one who knows to be classic dance like Cece, C&C, Max A Million, Robin S, Real McCoy, Jesus! It's so damn easy. My guess is that they prolly tested the higher end of the demos not the lower (if they did any) and those dance hits won't test well with the upper end of their target - what they're doing now? OUTER SPACE and delivering that "please disperse, there's nothing to see here".

He'll land on his feet somewhere. I wouldn't look at Brian, Tim and Martin, all very dear friends and people I respect as the fix for them, they'll step all over themselves and do it wrong (the station will) because it just appears they don't have a clue. They're an 80s based station playing crap, played out 80s followed up with played out disco and lame ass 70s junk. It's a train wreck. Nothing makes sense. Their station name, their positioning, nothing. It's a real mess and there's no help in sight. Look out below... AGAIN.
 
wbmx said:
Wow, here let me give you a lesson so you all know the realities.

First off, V103's mix show has big numbers. Kenny's my partner, Armando's like a brother, it does nothing for me, I'm not who they're after. It works and works big time.

John and I have had multiple conversations about this and what happened to him is what happens when you don't deliver. What John was doing wasn't working for them

In his defence, the station is brutal. It's pathetic now. It's 80s pop and 70s disco and lame ass pop. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard a station so screwed up in years.

John's well aware of my call on their 1.7 rating months ago as well as what I thought he should've been doing. This station is doomed in the direction it's now heading and a 1.5 is right around the corner, no matter who's doing the mixing.

He's a great guy but you gotta deliver, you can't play music for the House Heads, they're not listening.
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In all fairness, I think SOME of the House Heads were/are listening, but not enough though. I don't think the problem was the music necessarily, but the way the show was promoted (if there was any). I personally tuned in because of various hits on this message board from those who talked about the show and how great it was.

Also, the music that JM3 played wasn't ALL House, it was a blend of pop, R&B and House Music, which I think he blended well. Correct me if I am wrong, part of Love FM's moniker is Classic Dance and Disco and House Music is a part of classic dance, especially in the Chicago market. It wouldn't make sense if JM3 didn't play it (House Music).

In terms of V103's mix show, it isn't a bad show, BUT the station has more of a following because of its history with the listeners AND promotion of the show. You also had at the time a big name hosting it, Big Daddy woo woo, Tornado (R.I.P.).

Let just see if Love FM has enough sense to promote this dance party more than then did JM3's.
 
Hamp said:
In all fairness, I think SOME of the House Heads were/are listening, but not enough though. I don't think the problem was the music necessarily, but the way the show was promoted (if there was any). I personally tuned in because of various hits on this message board from those who talked about the show and how great it was.

Also, the music that JM3 played wasn't ALL House, it was a blend of pop, R&B and House Music, which I think he blended well. Correct me if I am wrong, part of Love FM's moniker is Classic Dance and Disco and House Music is a part of classic dance, especially in the Chicago market. It wouldn't make sense if JM3 didn't play it (House Music).

In terms of V103's mix show, it isn't a bad show, BUT the station has more of a following because of its history with the listeners AND promotion of the show. You also had at the time a big name hosting it, Big Daddy woo woo, Tornado (R.I.P.).

Let just see if Love FM has enough sense to promote this dance party more than then did JM3's.
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I agree with you 200%...
JM3 is a very talented DJ....I caught him at the summer dance DJ series in 2005. There is something about this kid- something that cant be denied.....Music seems to be a passion with him-Its more then a job.

I heard the blend that WMBX was talking about( KC & Chas Jenkel)...It sounded brilliant! I heard a few others like Naked Eye's Promises Promises & CHeryl Lynn's "Got to be real". It was in the same key, the beats complimented each other, and I could see a dancefloor get energized by it......The only person I have heard that can mix that kind of variety and make it sound good is Kenny Jason.

I would love to see JM3 go to v103....It would be a better fit for him. But the question would be - Will Derrick Brown let him do what he was doing on Love??

With the Clear Channel Hype & JM3's talent, it could garnish the same excitement that Boolu Master brought to WGCI when he was there.
But that is my wishful thinking........
 
I agree with the people who have posted that the station is basically a mess. They cant seem to stick with any format there
and everytime they seem like they are starting to build an audieance they tweak the format again and lose the listeners they
built up. First off before they were LOVE FM they were running with WNND hits of the eighties and nineties and when they
started getting a good base of listeners they flipped to LOVE FM when it was A LOVE SONG STATION and i thought that was a
smart move LITE FM was irritating their core listeners by trying to be like THE MIX and they came along and put together a
station that was softer than LITE FM and not as soft as WNUA and could atract an audiance from WLIT,WNUA,V103,SOUL1063
and was good background music at work or in stores in fact I started hearing in more offices and stores than I did WLIT and right
when that seemed to catch on they flipped it again and lost all the listeners they just built up.I had several women in my family
that loved when it was the origonal LOVE FM who have now flipped to WNUA bacause LITE FM and LOVE FM are annoying to them
now. Another thing I dont under stand is why they are still calling it LOVE FM that name does not fit there format at all.
It almost seems like Clear Channel is paying them off to keep shooting themselves in the foot like this.
 
Sorry to hear about JM3. Hope the best for him. As for the new show so far tonight. Wow. I really like it. Very polished and studio sounding, but alot of fun. I think this will appeal to the older mix crowd.
 
djzack67 said:
Sorry to hear about JM3. Hope the best for him. As for the new show so far tonight. Wow. I really like it. Very polished and studio sounding, but alot of fun. I think this will appeal to the older mix crowd.
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It sounded better with a host. I will give it that much.....

Radio has done nothing more then destroy what Lee Michaels & WBMX/WDAI has built. Its seems to me that it might as well never happened.....what a waste.....
 
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