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Mandy connell on 84 whas called obama a half breed do you think its a big deal

I think it was kinda funny. A bad choice of words but nothing she needs to be taken to the wood shed for. Kinda funny in its context but i would have said it differently.

I always thought mandy whom i really like is a ziegler type on a smaller scale. She is in your face like he is so we shall see if she lasts. I love her show she is to funny!!!Refers to her kid as the q and of her former political self as a dirty foot hippie liberal. She is to funny i hope she gets to stay on whas for years to come she is very different then anyone they have had in that timeslot.

Not in her politics but in her style. Structured but not structured just very good at what she does.

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I doubt any black people in America are related to President Obama.
But, his mother is white and many people with Kentucky roots are related
to her.

This being said, why attack the president based on the color of his skin?
That was lame!

My longtime friend Joe Kelly would know better. Wish WHAS would give him
more airtime.
 
I can say this as an “old white guy” who went to school every year wondering when my school district would be court ordered to integrate. Unless you are targeting the KKK crowd, any on air person calling anybody “half breed” should be off for a week or two off with no pay. A sitting President can make the station owners life miserable so maybe you could be fired. Richard Nixon, who was a greater threat to the US Constitution (threaten to go after CBS’s O & O’s licenses) than ALL of the Presidents since, gets more respect among a certain “groups” the Obama. President Obama won both the popular and electoral vote. The Republicans got stupid and ran a Vietnam veteran. The Democrats tried twice with a Vietnam veteran and failed twice. It is political suicide to be a Vietnam era vet. I know I am one.
 
At the risk of defending a competitor, I'd really like to see what Mandy actually said and the context in which it was said.

My guess is you guys are making much ado about nothing.
 
Joe Elliot is his correct air name, not Joe Kelly. That was a brain fart.
Wrong words came out. Shucks, this is what Mandy says happened in
her case as well.

I think we should give her the benefit of the doubt. All of us have screwed
up on a mic at some time and have said things we wish we could take back.

Good luck!
 
BIGradio said:
greg.hahn said:
At the risk of defending a competitor, I'd really like to see what Mandy actually said and the context in which it was said.

My guess is you guys are making much ado about nothing.

Here you go - both audio and transcript........

http://thevillevoice.com/2010/08/11/ruh-ro-mandy-connell-on-the-tweetvestigation/


Sorry, but none of that said anything whatsoever about Obama being a halfbreed, so her context and tone cannot be determined by that.

Of course, he IS in fact a half breed, a fact that he celebrates along with millions of other people in this country. But if she said it in some snarky way so as to "attack the president based on the color of his skin", as Flying-Dutchman said, then that would be conduct that we could and should rightfully complain about. I'm just doubting that she did that.
 
I've lightened up on Mandy because I believe her. It was a slip she never meant to say.
I don't think she will ever use the phrase again.

It's unbelievable that so many of you do not understand that the phrase is derogatory.
This ignorance is not at all helpful.

The next announcer to use the phrase will be history.

But, I believe Mandy's explanation.
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
I've lightened up on Mandy because I believe her. It was a slip she never meant to say.
I don't think she will ever use the phrase again.

It's unbelievable that so many of you do not understand that the phrase is derogatory.
This ignorance is not at all helpful.

The next announcer to use the phrase will be history.

But, I believe Mandy's explanation.

Oh bullcrap! I'm sure that an announcer will use the term "halfbreed" on WAKY this afternoon when Cher sings and nobody will be history.

Why is it offensive? It's not offensive to be half Chinese, half Indian, half Irish, half white or half black. It's not a bad thing to be full blooded either. It's a valid description of what you are.

Now the TONE and CONTEXT of the way that is said can make a difference, that is why I keep asking for what she said and in what context. But so far nobody has been able to provide that.

So here it is:


“America has allowed poor people like Oprah Winfrey to come from nothing and create a billion-dollar media enterprise. At the same time it has allowed a young half-breed man — and I say half-breed not in a derogatory way, it was just the first thing I thought of — to become president” -Courier Journal


Now the first thing that strikes me is that she hadn't even finished her sentence before she caught herself and tried to clarify it. That's a pretty significant bit on information that's been omitted up till now.

I don't know if you've ever been live on the radio but let me tell you, it's a feat to talk for 3 hours straight and never say something wrong. But if you're blessed with some tact and good sense, you'll instantly know when something you said didn't come out like you intended. And that is CLEARLY the case here.

Mandy knew as soon as the words came out that they were a poor choice and didn't convey her intention. She might have had the sense to know that some folks, who will find offense in ANYTHING, could find offense in that, even with her clearly good intentions. So she tried to clean it up, assure people that she meant nothing at all bad about the president or his race. But it was too late, and some people just will to be offended.

And notice what this implies about the discussion we've had up to this point:


Flying-Dutchman said:
This being said, why attack the president based on the color of his skin?
That was lame!


She most CLEARLY did not attack the president in any way in this clip. She clearly meant to PRAISE his accomplishments.

See how context matters? Why bash someone when you don't know all the facts?
 
I read that most of the people who complained did not actually hear her comment, and weren't even listeners to her show or her radio station.

Isn't that like contacting a store where you never shop, and complaining about the merchandise they sell?
 
Greg,
I am not a race sensitivity counselor. It's not my job to give people the education their mother
should have. And, Mandy has explained herself. She get's it.

Yes, Cher did a song by the title. The point of the song was to show how hurtful the phrase is.

Yes, children who are half Chinese or Indian are hurt by this insult also. The phrase is used
to mean, YOU AREN'T ONE OF US. That's cruel.

Anyway, I have heard the broadcast and I have listened since. I believe her when she says
she was embarrassed by the slip that she did not mean to say it.

Unless you are playing the Cher song, it is unwise to say the phrase on the air.
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
Greg,
I am not a race sensitivity counselor. It's not my job to give people the education their mother
should have. And, Mandy has explained herself. She get's it.

Yes, Cher did a song by the title. The point of the song was to show how hurtful the phrase is.

Yes, children who are half Chinese or Indian are hurt by this insult also. The phrase is used
to mean, YOU AREN'T ONE OF US. That's cruel.

Anyway, I have heard the broadcast and I have listened since. I believe her when she says
she was embarrassed by the slip that she did not mean to say it.

Unless you are playing the Cher song, it is unwise to say the phrase on the air.


Of course, Dutch, children who are half Chinese or Indian who are taunted with this expression on the playground are hurt by it. That's my point- it's all about context.

Would it be "unwise" for Rush Limbaugh to say it on the air in reference to Obama? How about Tom Joyner? Howard Stern?

Would it be unwise for Gwyneth Paltrow to refer to herself that way? (Her father was of Jewish rabbinical descent.) I say not. What do you say?

I'm thinking that there are several contexts where the people above could use that term with total impunity.

But back to Mandy. Don't you think you ought to admit that you misspoke when you implied that Mandy "used race to attack the President"?
 
Greg,
Many years ago, Joe Elliot of WHAS and I attended Butler University. Sometimes we
would joke about blind people when together. We were the blind guys on campus and no
harm done. We were really just laughing at ourselves.
On the other hand, I heard a bit on the Bob & Tom show that ticked me off. Glass
breaking and then the explanation that this was Stevie Wonder in a china shop.
I have Jewish friends who tell Jewish jokes. They can do this. But, I had best not do it.
Now if Rush or Stern called Obama a HB, I think they would have the same fate as
Howard Cosell.
And yes, I think I was harsh on Mandy because I believed she had said it on purpose. Now, I believe her explanation that HB is a phrase she has never used before. Also, I understand that humans can become flustered and say things they do not mean. So, I wish her the best at
WHAS and hope this matter is over for her.
 
Flying-Dutchman said:
On the other hand, I heard a bit on the Bob & Tom show that ticked me off. Glass
breaking and then the explanation that this was Stevie Wonder in a china shop.

I thought that was pretty damn funny right there. ;D
 
greg.hahn said:
Flying-Dutchman said:
I've lightened up on Mandy because I believe her. It was a slip she never meant to say.
The next announcer to use the phrase will be history.
Oh bullcrap! I'm sure that an announcer will use the term "halfbreed" on WAKY this afternoon when Cher sings and nobody will be history.
Just heard the song on a classic version of Casey Kasem's American Top 40 from 1973, so I guess it technically IS history. These remastered shows are incredible to hear. Check out this site to listen to them each week, or catch it on WGTK at 6pm each Saturday. DISCO LIVES!

http://radiotime.com/options/p_117092/American_Top_40_-_The_70s.aspx
 
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