MARINERS LEAVING KOMO, KIRO GOING ALL-SPORTS, KBSG FLIPS TO TALK

[Primitive]

First, whoever posted the original Subject... when it comes to an unconfirmed rumor found on somebody's blog, please put ???? Question Marks ???? around the subject. A casual reader might think this is actually confirmed by Bonneville.

That headline got YOU to read the post didn't it, Craig...oops, I meant Gregg? Then it's working perfectly.

No. It misleads people into reading. It got me, and now that I see it's a bunch of rumours, I'm annoyed you wasted my time.

 

[ponderosaAZ]

Lots of rumors floating around and I think much is still actually up in the air. Couple of other rumors out there - not covered here. One: KTTH goes all sports. Makes sense, if their signal is strong enough.

The problem is night coverage and wicked ground conductivity + skywave interference on these class B's:

The KTTH 770, KJR 950, the new KRKO 1380, and
are all insufficient at night. KTTH 770 is OK at 50kW, until sundown when it drops to 5kW. The new KPTK 1090 CP daytime would be perfect, but horrible after sundown.

KIXI would be a good signal for either talk or sports, w/ transmitters near Bellevue, covering the east side at night, and all the way from Vancouver, BC to Ashland, OR at night. 50kW/10kW DA2

Maybe a simulcast ?

 

[TowerLamp]

KIXI would be a good signal for either talk or sports, w/ transmitters near Bellevue, covering the east side at night, and all the way from Vancouver, BC to Ashland, OR at night. 50kW/10kW DA2
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Get a grip! KIXI has no coverage south of Tukwila, nothing north of Shoreline and nothing east of Issaquah when in night pattern. They get their ass kicked by the co-channel from Dallas, OR. KIXI is great daytimer but sucks in DA2 mode with it's 10K night power. Let's get the M's on an FM signal and fill-in coverage with network affiliates for secondary markets like Bellingham.

 

[Itchisakamoto]

Because the younger demographics that stations want to attract don't know that AM exists.

Do you really think younger audience is the audience listening to the Mariners or Seahawks on the radio? That audience is either at the games or packed into some sports bar someplace taking them in on the Big Screen with friends... Sports Radio = Old fart armhchair quarterback radio at least where the Mariners & Seahawks are concerned, KJR may draw a slightly younger crowd because they host the Huskies...

I think the best reason to launch an FM sports station in this town is because you have a unique opportunity to program a sports station from the ground up that does not put out the same boring crap day after day from the same boring people....

KJR should really be scared if this become reality because they will no longer be "The Sports Leader" around here anymore...

 

[ponderosaAZ]

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Get a grip! KIXI has no coverage south of Tukwila, nothing north of Shoreline and nothing east of Issaquah when in night pattern. They get their ass kicked by the co-channel from Dallas, OR. KIXI is great daytimer but sucks in DA2 mode with it's 10K night power. Let's get the M's on an FM signal and fill-in coverage with network affiliates for secondary markets like Bellingham.
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you're correct, but all of the freqs in question have signficiant drawbacks, due to wicked ground conductivity and nightime protections, KIXI,KKNW,KPTK,KTTH, and even KJR have issues in the Kent/Auburn/Puyallup river valleys

the mariners should stay on KIRO-AM and take advantage of the skywave

 

[Steenman]

Are there any ratings yet on the new FM sports station in Portland, the one that flipped from Jammin? Might shed some additional light on this?

 

[semoochie]

It's way, way too early! Ask this question again in about a year.

 

[djdan]

Both are down. Too early to tell after one trend. See what happens in a year.
In Phoenix both the AM sports and FM news station saw big decreases in numbers. No question the move was a failure in Phoenix. One has to wonder with no college sports doing well, the Mariners doing poorly and no pro basketball. Is it even the right time to launch a sports station? This is hardly a sports town right now. KJR-AM is sub two share, do you want to split that number and add another sports station. I'd bet Bonneville learned its lesson from Phoenix and Salt Lake and will keep music on the FM, add Mariners to the AM and have the market dominant AM station. Timing is not right for sports or following an election year going with a news or talk on FM. This will really be a bleak sports town if the Seahawks have a poor season. Course stranger things have happened in Seattle radio. Remember the Buzz? How about MIX 95.7 or MIX 92.5. Movin might even fall into the category of programming moves that make no sense in Seattle. All sports KIRO would seem right up there with the head scratchers if it happens.

 

[Kelly]

See now there you go making sense again Dan! You of all people should know that there is no place for common sense on this board!