Mike Malloy FIRED from Air America Radio

[Scribbler]

I believe the operative words here are: "It will be interesting to see if."
As I mentioned Thom gets a better share in Seattle than Franken. And Thom is up against Dave Ross on KIRO, the guy who does commentaries for both AP Radio and CBS Radio, is the regular sub for Charles Osgood, and was a Democratic candidate for congress in the last election (won the primary, lost the general election). Hartmann is also up against "The Commentators," which has a liberal host paired with a conservative." Franken is up against personality talkers Ron and Don on KIRO, whom I would not consider direct competition for the progressive talk audience, and the conservative host from "The Commentators."

No, the operative words were: ..."look for more stations to dump...Al in favor of Thom."

And if you're going by the numbers that Hartmann posted on his web site, he wasn't against Dave Ross during that period -- Ross was in PM drive against Franken, who beat both fellow liberal Ross and conservative Michael Savage (Notice the asterisk after Dave Ross's name).

 

[dampier]

Why is it that every time a liberal gets upset with soemthing they have to protest, or sign some worthless petition???

If you are going to inject politics into this, at least put your room key at Hypocracy Hotel in your pocket, because now everyone knows where you are staying.

Here is none other then Droby's QUOTE from HuffPo:

This is all very nice, except it has nothing to do with what I was calling you on, which was your hypocritical comments that it is liberals that do all the protesting and petition signing. What you are on about has absolutely nothing to do with what I am talking about.

Next time, try to stay on the same page before you hit reply.

 

[dampier]

The interesting question that Doc and Damp can't answer is why is AAR' website still has Mullah Malloy listed in their lineup? Is it true that cash crunch probs are so severe that they can't pay someone to edit a couple of HTML lines..

Who cares.

Hmm, lemme guess... It's George Bush's fault.. He made a phone call and black helicopters started flying around just befor randi rhodes did a ***** on mullah malloy

Irrelevent hyperbole.

 

[evnlee]

This was extremely unprofessional of Air America, firing a host half an hour before airtime (filling in for Randi Rhodes), and not giving him a chance to say goodbye.

I know this is not the same thing: but here's what happens when you let disgruntled people on the mic. It's priceless, but if you were to 'give' Malloy 2 weeks to say 'goodbye' , he would have have donse something similar to this: 8)

http://carmige.com/audio/iquitthisbitch.mp3

 

[Ultimajock]

...the hell he would. He had (IIRC) three months' advance notice of the folding of the i.e.America network, and he wound up being the last show heard over it. He was ticked off at the technical and financial incompetence of the UAW in their mishandling of the outfit, but so were those of us listening, and he was no more vocal about it than the callers were...

 

[fred flintstone]

I know this is not the same thing: but here's what happens when you let disgruntled people on the mic. It's priceless, but if you were to 'give' Malloy 2 weeks to say 'goodbye' , he would have have donse something similar to this: 8)

And you KNOW he would have something "similar" how?
C'mon, let it go.
He might have; he might not have.
Now we will never know.
Apparently, anybody who works for you can expect the kind of ugly termination which is all to common in radio.
Apparently, you think radio is right to treat people as it does.
Radio is the most mismanaged industry I can think of.
It is run by drones, who were shat upon earlier in their careers, and now feel entitled to do the same to others.
This is the primary qualification for a management position in radio (MBA? Whasat?)

Franco remains dead.
Malloy remains fired.
Five more days until what would have been his last show anyway.
No word on what happens with the time slot.
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[evnlee]

I know this is not the same thing: but here's what happens when you let disgruntled people on the mic. It's priceless, but if you were to 'give' Malloy 2 weeks to say 'goodbye' , he would have have donse something similar to this: 8)

And you KNOW he would have something "similar" how?
C'mon, let it go.
Apparently, anybody who works for you can expect the kind of ugly termination which is all to common in radio.
Apparently, you think radio is right to treat people as it does.

'Radio' is absolutely right in taking disgruntled talent off the air. What do you think 'radio management' should do? Let 'Inetta tha Moodsetter' have 2 weeks to call her co workers and employers names? Give Malloy a 2 week head start in insulting AAR management ( I cant believe I'm actually defending that bunch ) behind thier microphone, instead of on his website and Huffpo?

You need to 'let it go'. If you want to work in radio, it's part of the gig. When celebrities complain about 'no privacy', that's also part of the gig. You learn to live with it. Or, most adults do :

 

[fred flintstone]

Are you going to keep this thread going until everybody agrees with you?
You've said you're piece.
OK, radio often does operate that way. Not everyone thinks it should.
Radio does often operate that way even when the talent has given no cause for them to expect irresponsible behavior.
Apparently you think people who get shabby treatment should smile and say "thank you, sir, may I have another."
You seem to make Malloy wrong for being "disgruntled" (resenting how he was treated).
I can't believe you are defending this kind of treatment of employees.
I can't believe you are defending SOBs acting like SOBs.
I can't believe you are finding somebody guilty of bad behavior based on something he might or might not have done.
I can't believe how you cowtow to management (or authority figures, in general).
I can't wait to see how you react if management ever screws you (and you become disgruntled).
It's part of the gig because there are so many authoritarian personalities in radio. They go beyond those who put up with ill treatment just to be on the radio; they are people who endorse ill treatment.
Which is what you are doing.
Sig heil.

 

[kaufcom]

This thread is too focused on "how" rather than "why" Malloy was canned. We know that AAR is very reluctant to let anyone go. Does anybody even remember Liz Winstead? Why did they decide to go after Malloy with his large following of late night listeners. Many who've been listening to him since his stint at IE America. I suspect that he had crossed the line where liberals are not supposed to go. It's one thing to suggest that 2000 or 2004 election was stolen by the Republicans, but when you start suggesting that Bush had something to do with 9/11 attacks and you give over two hours to a Lyndon Larouche advocate you are crossing the line. I suspect that this why Malloy was let go.

 

[Scribbler]

This thread is too focused on "how" rather than "why" Malloy was canned. We know that AAR is very reluctant to let anyone go. Does anybody even remember Liz Winstead? Why did they decide to go after Malloy with his large following of late night listeners. Many who've been listening to him since his stint at IE America. I suspect that he had crossed the line where liberals are not supposed to go. It's one thing to suggest that 2000 or 2004 election was stolen by the Republicans, but when you start suggesting that Bush had something to do with 9/11 attacks and you give over two hours to a Lyndon Larouche advocate you are crossing the line. I suspect that this why Malloy was let go.

That may be the reason, but there was no "Lyndon Larouche advocate." The guy he had on was a "former" Larouche associate, who had broken with Larouche some time ago.

As for what "they" did two years ago, there's a whole new crop of suits in charge at AAR, so the "they" now is far different than the "they" was in 2004.

Meanwhile, despite Mike Malloy's assertion that Laura Flanders will be his permanent replacement, nobody seems to have told Flanders. Here's what her producer posted on the Flanders blog last night:

I must restate this: We are not replacing Mike Malloy. We were as shocked as anyone Malloy was pulled from the AAR line-up. We're kindred spirits. We have not been told anything by AAR management about moving to weekdays, in general, or about replacing Malloy specifically. We've been told that we're on the weekend.
by Steve Rosenfeld at September 10, 2006 - 8:22pm |

 

[evnlee]

Are you going to keep this thread going until everybody agrees with you?
You've said you're piece.
You seem to make Malloy wrong for being "disgruntled" (resenting how he was treated).

Fred, get a grip.

YOU are the one keeping this stupid thread going.

Malloy WAS wrong to be resentful. He got canned. Act like a grown up and MOVE ON. If you have talent, FIND ANOTHER GIG!

It's pretty clear YOU have been fired at least once in radio, and never got over it. Get some help.

If you want to be on syndicated radio, then you have to roll with the punches.


Baroosk:I suspect that he had crossed the line where liberals are not supposed to go. It's one thing to suggest that 2000 or 2004 election was stolen by the Republicans, but when you start suggesting that Bush had something to do with 9/11 attacks and you give over two hours to a Lyndon Larouche advocate you are crossing the line. I suspect that this why Malloy was let go."

I have to agree with Baroosk here. Not even 'progressives' can cross that line

This makes the most sense as to why AAR would sh*tcan Malloy the way they did. He went too far left.

 

[fred flintstone]

Fred, get a grip.

YOU are the one keeping this stupid thread going.

Malloy WAS wrong to be resentful. He got canned. Act like a grown up and MOVE ON. If you have talent, FIND ANOTHER GIG!

It's pretty clear YOU have been fired at least once in radio, and never got over it. Get some help.

If you want to be on syndicated radio, then you have to roll with the punches.

I'm not the one who brought this thread back to the top after it had been dormant for over a week.

If you've never been fired, you've never worked in radio.

Not only are you able to tell what Malloy would have done - you now arrogantly presume to tell people how they should feel or respond in a given circumstance. Fruther, you are the one labelling Malloy "disgruntled" based on your own suppositions - not anything he has said or done.

Here is your line of illogic:
Malloy would trash AAR if not taken off the air.
Malloy is disgruntled because he would have trashed AAR.
Malloy would have trashed AAR because he is disgruntled.
AAR was right to take him off the air before he could trash them.

This sounds like Bush logic.
No wonder rednecks love Bush (along with cigarettes, cheap beer and NASCAR).

Talk about getting a grip!
It's been 141 years and you people still haven't gotten over losing the Civil War.
You want to secede, you got to learn to roll with the punches, Rhett.

 

[evnlee]

Not only are you able to tell what Malloy would have done - you now arrogantly presume to tell people how they should feel or respond in a given circumstance. Fruther, you are the one labelling Malloy "disgruntled" based on your own suppositions - not anything he has said or done.

Okay~ first Malloy rips the 'suits at Air America' while subbing for Randi Rhodes, which gets him yanked off 'second chair' duty for the other premier takent in the coveted pm drive slot in the middle of the week....

Then he gives a couple hours to a guy who's wacky conspiracy theories was sure to aggravate some of the backers of AAR, and I believe his did this knowingly, not out of ingorance.

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27268094.shtml

Then his wife/producer starts posting about the firing and giving out contact #'s for AAR on DU and HuffPo, trying to start an uproar..

All this sounds like a real 'pro'. A touch of 'class'..Definitely a guy I would want on my 'team'. :

 

[cyberdad]

Okay~ first Malloy rips the 'suits at Air America' while subbing for Randi Rhodes, which gets him yanked off 'second chair' duty for the other premier takent in the coveted pm drive slot in the middle of the week....

Then he gives a couple hours to a guy who's wacky conspiracy theories was sure to aggravate some of the backers of AAR, and I believe his did this knowingly, not out of ingorance.

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27268094.shtml

Then his wife/producer starts posting about the firing and giving out contact #'s for AAR on DU and HuffPo, trying to start an uproar..

All this sounds like a real 'pro'. A touch of 'class'..Definitely a guy I would want on my 'team'. :

I don't think his bashing of the Catholic Church and other religions went down very well, either. I personally agreed with Malloy philosophically on some of the points he made, but for the most part, I found him abrasive and insensitive. And on more than a few occasions, I'd add "hateful". I, for one, won't miss him.

 

[kaufcom]

There will be life after AAR for Malloy. He's an established liberal talk personality with a large loyal fan base (Check out his various on line petitions.) Most likely he will wind up on Satellite Radio where he will be a bigger draw than Alex Bennett, The Young Turks, Bill Press, Lynn Samuels, or Thom Hartman. It's a no brainer for Sirius to add Malloy to their lineup. From what I understand Malloy was getting just over 100 G's from AAR. Sirius could easily match that number. It's also a good way to corner the anti-AAR lib talk audience.

 

[fred flintstone]

There will be life after AAR for Malloy. He's an established liberal talk personality with a large loyal fan base (Check out his various on line petitions.) Most likely he will wind up on Satellite Radio where he will be a bigger draw than Alex Bennett, The Young Turks, Bill Press, Lynn Samuels, or Thom Hartman. It's a no brainer for Sirius to add Malloy to their lineup. From what I understand Malloy was getting just over 100 G's from AAR. Sirius could easily match that number. It's also a good way to corner the anti-AAR lib talk audience.

We've come a long way on this board. I'm glad to read that there is such a thing as "the anti-AAR lib talk audience." :

Sirius does have an opportunity to boost their Sirius Left Channel. They are about to lose the Young Turks.
My recommendations:

Continue Bill Press live 6am to 9am
Move Stephanie Miller to air live 9am to 12pm (replacing Bennett).
Take all three hours of Thom Hartmann live (Lynn Samuels now gets hours two and three)
Continue Ed Schultz 3pm to 6pm Live.
Take Malloy live 6pm to 10pm
Add Doug Basham live 10pm to 1 am.
Give Samuels and Bennett weekend shows.
Take "Best of Peter B. Collins" on weekends also to test the show.
Also have top local progressive hosts do live weekend shows for Sirius (Marvin, Newcomb, Rogers, Taliafero, Taylor, et al), possibly on a rotating schedule.

More live programming enhances the appeal of the channel.
Have special numbers for Sirius subscribers to call shows.
Do special marketing to get back former subscribers who went to XM when AAR bailed.

 

[Scribbler]

There will be life after AAR for Malloy. He's an established liberal talk personality with a large loyal fan base (Check out his various on line petitions.) Most likely he will wind up on Satellite Radio where he will be a bigger draw than Alex Bennett, The Young Turks, Bill Press, Lynn Samuels, or Thom Hartman. It's a no brainer for Sirius to add Malloy to their lineup. From what I understand Malloy was getting just over 100 G's from AAR. Sirius could easily match that number. It's also a good way to corner the anti-AAR lib talk audience.

Hartmann said on Sam Seder's show late last week that he'd been talking to Sirius and some of the other lefty shows on Sirius (Press, The Young Turks, and Hartmann) are also on a few terrestrial stations, so Malloy might well go that route.

BTW, this has nothing to do with Malloy, but I heard Wayne Gilman doing the news on AAR today. So much for the theory that he was just a "legacy" employee of WLIB and would return there when AAR switched stations in NYC.

 

[Scribbler]

We've come a long way on this board. I'm glad to read that there is such a thing as "the anti-AAR lib talk audience." :

It's been quite obvious on this board that there was "such a thing." Let's see: MWebster, NWebster, MerriamWebster, skyeye, Bierkenstock, Emacee, Fred Flintstone....there's seven right there!

 

[fred flintstone]

It's been quite obvious on this board that there was "such a thing." Let's see: MWebster, NWebster, MerriamWebster, skyeye, Bierkenstock, Emacee, Fred Flintstone....there's seven right there!

See, we have come a long way. You used to call me a conservative and compare me to Maloney.
I've used some other names but SamBuca wiped old posts, including my posts under those other names. So, you have not got a complete list of my efforts to keep one-step ahead of Lance.
And then there are the people with multiple personalities who have concurrent posting identities - not just handles. They take different viewpoints and different styles and even debate themselves online (and take an infantile joy in thinking they are fooling everyone). ???

 

[Scribbler]

It's been quite obvious on this board that there was "such a thing." Let's see: MWebster, NWebster, MerriamWebster, skyeye, Bierkenstock, Emacee, Fred Flintstone....there's seven right there!

See, we have come a long way. You used to call me a conservative and compare me to Maloney.
I've used some other names but SamBuca wiped old posts, including my posts under those other names. So, you have not got a complete list of my efforts to keep one-step ahead of Lance.
And then there are the people with multiple personalities who have concurrent posting identities - not just handles. They take different viewpoints and different styles and even debate themselves online (and take an infantile joy in thinking they are fooling everyone). ???

I don't think I've ever called you a conservative, although I certainly have compared you to Maloney. You both have an unhealthy obsession with trashing Air America, but at least Maloney gets a little something from Amazon for his efforts.

So you admit that you've used other names on this board besides the seven that I listed! Such extreme behavior narrows down the list of suspects who would go to all the trouble it would take to create additional "multiple personalities" who "debate themselves online." I can think of only one person who would be that obsessive, who seems to have unlimited time on his hands, and who has a history of reinventing himself, over and over again.