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7399radiofun
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How much money does one need to make to survive in Seattle radio? Now, obviously the pay is different for each company but how about an average salary for each daypart...bare minimum in Seattle?
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kinda depends on whether your shift (and your looks) allow for a little bit of hooking on the side so you can actually HAVE grocery money.
Otherwise...there are really only four shifts left in this market: Mornings (which are usually under contract), middays (which tend to be held by veterans who have settled into a nice lifestyle of sleeping in and still being able to watch primetime TV), afternoons (also usually under contract) and the fourth can be anything from evenings (getting more rare, except country, younger audience stations) to a utility person who does all the fill-ins, weekends, production, starbux runs, and kisses the management parts the other three missed.
Survival income far different than what is paid or competitive. Which are you asking?
Otherwise...there are really only four shifts left in this market: Mornings (which are usually under contract), middays (which tend to be held by veterans who have settled into a nice lifestyle of sleeping in and still being able to watch primetime TV), afternoons (also usually under contract) and the fourth can be anything from evenings (getting more rare, except country, younger audience stations) to a utility person who does all the fill-ins, weekends, production, starbux runs, and kisses the management parts the other three missed.
Survival income far different than what is paid or competitive. Which are you asking?
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7399radiofun
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ya know really it's more of just wondering...if I had to take a wild shot I'd say...
Nights - $45,000 or $50,000 (maybe a little high, depending on company)
Afternoons - $80,000 - 100,000
Middays - No earthly idea
Mornings - $400,000+
thoughts?
Nights - $45,000 or $50,000 (maybe a little high, depending on company)
Afternoons - $80,000 - 100,000
Middays - No earthly idea
Mornings - $400,000+
thoughts?
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WarpFactor
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7399radiofun said:
Close...
Nights - 45k tops
PMD - 65 to 130k
Middays - 50 to 90k
AMD - 100 to 500k
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yoyo205
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For Clear Channel salaries, subtract about 20-50k off each daypart
No Joke!
No Joke!
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DaleGriffin
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Don't work for them then.
Did anyone else think this thread was about Ted DiBiase?
Did anyone else think this thread was about Ted DiBiase?
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SeattleRadioPro
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Dale Jackson said:
Uh - no.
The O'Jays - maybe.
WarpFactor said:
Are they just for the gig, or is it with other duties attached (e.g, Prod Director, MD, Promo etc etc)
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yoyo205
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Dale Jackson said:
That's why I did stop working for them [EDIT]. What part of that post made you think I still work there?
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squawkker
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I hate to say it, but for a variation on the old saw, in regards to this, "if you have to ask, it's too low". If you're interested in making money, this is the wrong business for you, at least on the programming side. Sales and management are comparable to other similar businesses.
On-air work in radio is a rare business that combines low pay, with low stability. The only exception MIGHT be doing mornings. If you're talented enough to do it, and don't mind getting beat up for awhile, it could be worth it.
Generally, I've found the only way to approach radio reasonably is: Would I do it for free? (because there have been times, I nearly have). Some guys coast and do "4 and the door", but they're usually not as good as they think they are. Generally, anyone who's any good, works pretty darned hard for their money, deserves more than they get.
And the only reason morning talent gets paid so much, is because of the REMARKABLE revenue they generally bring in.
On-air work in radio is a rare business that combines low pay, with low stability. The only exception MIGHT be doing mornings. If you're talented enough to do it, and don't mind getting beat up for awhile, it could be worth it.
Generally, I've found the only way to approach radio reasonably is: Would I do it for free? (because there have been times, I nearly have). Some guys coast and do "4 and the door", but they're usually not as good as they think they are. Generally, anyone who's any good, works pretty darned hard for their money, deserves more than they get.
And the only reason morning talent gets paid so much, is because of the REMARKABLE revenue they generally bring in.
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DaleGriffin
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yoyo205 said:
What? Ted DiBiase was a rassler from the 80s with money, money moooooneeeeey!
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I disagree, with the "everybody on the programming side makes low wages" comments -- even though most do. People in radio are just scared to name thier value for fear of losing their job. They would get paid more if they'd STOP working for nothing and demand higher wages. There are plenty of people doing well on the programming side and there are even more selling themselves short. If you are in a major market and not making above the median income or what YOU consider a good wage it is your own fault. Most people just accept what the company offers them, THAT is why the pay scale is low for most. I hate to see how people in radio just settle for low pay because it is looked upon as the lowest form of media... eventually leading to them leaving the business to sell real estate or something.
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Itchisakimoto
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It is a results driven industry... What have you done for me lately mentality... If you produce ratings which translates into advertising dollars then you are going to get a larger portion of that pie... There are plenty of great radio talents out there wasting away in hicksville without and audience or ratings and the only way those folks will ever make more than the base salary in their market is to work hard and hope they are heard by somebody who has the right opportunity because companies are never going to pay their air staff more for less...
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