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More ahooga horns were sold for cars last year than HD Radios.

K

KB1OKL

JOHN GORMAN'S MEDIA BLOG

Radio: You don’t want HD Radio’s Bilk-o in your foxhole.


Posted: 03 Jan 2008 08:28 AM CST

You can’t make this stuff up.

How would you like it if one you believed to be a business partner did an about face and supported the very thing your industry is fighting against?

Memo to terrestrial radio: iBiquity and the HD Radio Alliance just double-crossed you.

The dynamic duo closed their dismal year by firing off a letter to the FCC on December 20 urging that if the merger between XM and Sirius satellite radio companies is approved – HD Radios must be included in all satellite receivers.

Riiiiight!
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http://gormanmediablog.blogspot.com/

[EDIT-post truncated because originating material is copyrighted. URL provided by Radio-Info as a courtesy to other users.]
 
KB1OKL said:
Bilk-o can’t come to grips with the fact that more ahooga horns were sold for cars last year than HD Radios.
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Rarely has a better example of the Anti Collective's smear campaign been shown than here. ROUTINELY, anyone not marching to the "Anti" collective's campaign is savaged (small "s") by the mob.

I could easily post a quote from "someone" who supports my position. All you need to do it is a website. I have 29. If you want references to any individuals and farm animals, that's probably also available. It means nothing.

No amount of copyrighted reposting makes your point any more valid. I will also go on record and claim...

"I believe there were a half a million or more HD radios sold in 2007". I thought even the Myopians agreed to this.

I will also claim...

"There were less than a half a million "ahooga horns" sold.

With all honesty I know 3 people who own HD radios. I only know One who has an "ahooga horn"

How about it posters? Do you know someone who bought an "Ahooga horn - LAST YEAR"?

C'mon Big Boy... I bought "2" HD radios last year. Show me someone who bought 2 "Ahooga Horns".

WHERE'S THE BEEF? ? ?

NOW who's got the hyperbole...

Clouseau
 
Well, for one thing he was talking about car radios not home receivers and I did attribute the article to John Gorman. I thought some of you guys might like to see a dissenting opinion.
 
The iBorg do not allow "dissenting opinions".
"Resistance is futile," as they say.

Did you know that a rumble seat is a "dealer installed option" if you are willing to pay?
 
Play Freebird said:
But have a look at this:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=hd+radio,+horn

I couldn't determine the proper spelling of ahooga, so I just left it off. However, the long term trend shows HD Radio making some progress against those horns.

Just kidding! Trying to liven up an otherwise lazy HD bashing blog.
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Interesting! It looks like HD Radio is making nice inroads against all instances of the word "horn."

HD Radio continues its slow but steady climb.
 
I just the day before yesterday dubbed a 1950's record to digital by "The Mark IV", its title is spelled "Ah Ooo Gah".

I was suprised too see this thread title pop up, as "Ah Ooo Gah" isn't a very common phrase these days.
 
Tom Wells said:
I just the day before yesterday dubbed a 1950's record to digital by "The Mark IV", its title is spelled "Ah Ooo Gah".

I was suprised too see this thread title pop up, as "Ah Ooo Gah" isn't a very common phrase these days.
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As a car collector I can tell you thst they actully still sell Ah Ooo Gah horns. Every Model A Ford (and a lot of other cars) have them. I hope HD is selling better.
 
Radioman100 said:
Play Freebird said:
But have a look at this:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=hd+radio,+horn

I couldn't determine the proper spelling of ahooga, so I just left it off.  However, the long term trend shows HD Radio making some progress against those horns.

Just kidding!  Trying to liven up an otherwise lazy HD bashing blog. 
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Interesting!  It looks like HD Radio is making nice inroads against all instances of the word "horn."

HD Radio continues its slow but steady climb.
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Let's do an across-the-board comparison via Google Trends, comparing interest in HD radio, AM radio, Internet radio and FM radio.

http://www.google.com/trends?q=hd+r...adio,+fm+radio&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0

These are international figures. Look at each country and U-S cities below the graph.
 
Talk about a red herring. "Measure" (and there ARE no measurements, we all know that!) sales mostly before the truly affordable (99 dollar) car stereos with HD become available, then declare "nobody bought" the (then) nonexistent products!

I'm sure there were fewer HD Radio portables sold than Dr. Schoalls insoles, too. Wait...THERE AREN'T ANY PORTABLES YET! So NOW would be the time to take your "measurements", before the actual products hit shelves later this year!
 
Play Freebird said:
But have a look at this:

http://www.google.com/trends?q=hd+radio,+horn

I couldn't determine the proper spelling of ahooga, so I just left it off. However, the long term trend shows HD Radio making some progress against those horns.

Just kidding! Trying to liven up an otherwise lazy HD bashing blog.
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Well if I were a doctor and running the code, I would have stopped the CPR about a year ago with that flat line. I've seen better EKG's on corpses before from spurious impulses.
 
KB1OKL said:
Well if I were a doctor and running the code, I would have stopped the CPR about a year ago with that flat line. I've seen better EKG's on corpses before from spurious impulses.
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If you were a doctor, you would have aborted the fetus. You're a DXer, plain and simple. You in no way represent the interests of the radio industry nor typical listeners.
 
As long as we're gong to use the 'patient in the hospital' analogy, I'll play along.

First of all, you just can't lump all IBOC broadcasting into just ONE patient:

Mr. HD FM, although not well enough to leave the hospital just yet...is resting comfortably, and will be just fine in time with just a little TLC.

Mr HD AM, on the other hand...well...I'm afraid it's time to call the hospital's Pastor to come to the room to administer the 'last rights of the church'.
 
Radioman100 said:
KB1OKL said:
Well if I were a doctor and running the code, I would have stopped the CPR about a year ago with that flat line. I've seen better EKG's on corpses before from spurious impulses.
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If you were a doctor, you would have aborted the fetus. You're a DXer, plain and simple. You in no way represent the interests of the radio industry nor typical listeners.
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I think I do represent the average listener except I probably listen much more. Many of my observations as I've said before have been in my car with my car radio when I am just a typical listener, perhaps just with a little more knowledge of band conditions, skywave vagaries, and propagation, and why my favorite stations are getting interfered with. With my R390A's R-390's, SP-600's, HRO's and many other classic radios, 400' LW's, 160M dipoles, and Misek phaser I can phase most of the IBOC hash out for periods of time from seconds to minutes. But there are many times when I'm just trying to listen for pleasure and I can't listen anymore to certain stations most of the time because of IBOC's noise. How many typical listeners know the reason they can't receive it is because of noise from the adjacent radio station?. Also how many typical listeners have the equipment to be able to phase out noise? The main difference between me and a typical listener is that I have much better receiving equipment and antennas and know what is going on with all this noise and they don't.
If the radio industry is going to eventually try to force all of us to go digital and make billions of existing receivers obsolete for a technology which causes more problems that it solves then you are right, I do not represent the interests of the radio industry, but then again only a small percentage of the radio industry believes in this faulty technology so maybe I am more sympathetic to the majority of the radio industry than the minority. Looking at it that way, maybe it's you guys that don't represent the interests of the radio industry, maybe you represent the interests of ummmm.... yourselves? How can you look at that graph and honestly say that IBOC is going anywhere except down the chute?
 
KB1OKL said:
I think I do represent the average listener except I probably listen much more. Many of my observations as I've said before have been in my car with my car radio when I am just a typical listener, perhaps just with a little more knowledge of band conditions, skywave vagaries, and propagation, and why my favorite stations are getting interfered with. With my R390A's R-390's, SP-600's, HRO's and many other classic radios, 400' LW's, 160M dipoles, and Misek phaser I can phase most of the IBOC hash out for periods of time from seconds to minutes. But there are many times when I'm just trying to listen for pleasure and I can't listen anymore to certain stations most of the time because of IBOC's noise. How many typical listeners know the reason they can't receive it is because of noise from the adjacent radio station?. Also how many typical listeners have the equipment to be able to phase out noise? The main difference between me and a typical listener is that I have much better receiving equipment and antennas and know what is going on with all this noise and they don't.
If the radio industry is going to eventually try to force all of us to go digital and make billions of existing receivers obsolete for a technology which causes more problems that it solves then you are right, I do not represent the interests of the radio industry, but then again only a small percentage of the radio industry believes in this faulty technology so maybe I am more sympathetic to the majority of the radio industry than the minority. Looking at it that way, maybe it's you guys that don't represent the interests of the radio industry, maybe you represent the interests of ummmm.... yourselves? How can you look at that graph and honestly say that IBOC is going anywhere except down the chute?
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You attempt to listen to Buffalo, NY from just outside Boston. That's NOT typical radio listening. Not even close to it.
 
Buffalo usually comes in here like a ton of bricks here, it is a regular, it comes in better than WBZ many nights.
So unfortunately does WCKY.
 
KB1OKL said:
I think I do represent the average listener except I probably listen much more.

........

With my R390A's R-390's, SP-600's, HRO's and many other classic radios, 400' LW's, 160M dipoles, and Misek phaser I can...
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C'mon be truthful with us. Someone has put you up to this prank right?

You can not POSSIBLY have put these two thoughts in the same post and be serious!

Clouseau
 
clouseau said:
KB1OKL said:
I think I do represent the average listener except I probably listen much more.

........

With my R390A's R-390's, SP-600's, HRO's and many other classic radios, 400' LW's, 160M dipoles, and Misek phaser I can...
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C'mon be truthful with us. Someone has put you up to this prank right?

You can not POSSIBLY have put these two thoughts in the same post and be serious!

Clouseau
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when I'm in my car I am the typical listener as I'm not DXing, I want to be entertained in some way or other, I like WWKB and when WCKY's IBOC is making it difficult to receive WWKB I am not entertained, I am irritated. I know why, most listeners don't, that is the only difference between me and the average listener in that situation.
 
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