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NABCO BLAZOR AND MO AND THE DEATH OF RADIO

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mo rock

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you can stop reading now if you expect this to be a venomous tirade against a former employer that let me go, (some may read, fired) from a six figure (some may say, no way, but yes way) job just before christmas... not that there's any 'good' time to lose a six figure a year job or any job, because that is not what this is going to be. Nabco gave me a great opportunity and i rode it until the wheels fell off knowing there is nothing more i could have done outside of not voting for Obama because i think that scared the fiscal out of my conservative republican tax minded friends and who can blame them?... this is more in response to the many post that query the state of radio in columbus, and having resided there and done radio for the last 3 1/2 years and being the most recent, if not also the most gorgeous casualty, i think i have a few things to say...

let's discuss vision. more importantly, long term vision of which i think the current economical state has all but blinded many to. from a glance, a very quick glance, it might seem financially sound for Nabco to let go of Blazor And Mo In The Mornings, a show that cost them roughly a hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year for Bob and Tom, a show that syndicated probably runs about sixty thousand a year, (about forty too much, but i digress)... what is not factored in is the "human" element which aside from matt mnich, a friend and rather tall human, i wonder if others with a vote there at Nabco, understood. ie, lets look at revenue lost or 'let go' with the letting go of Blazor And Mo In The Mornings, Classics Sports Bar, huge chunk of revenue gone from a concept i brought the sales department in the form of Mo's Mix. the owner was more than happy to do one a month, and we were up to Mo's Mix 22, so believe me there was ad time being purchased that is now gone because, well, you can't have Mo's Mix without Mo and i don't see Tom flying his happy ass down to Columbus once a month. Yavitch and Palmer, an account i brought sales when on air, Blazor and I discussed a speeding ticket i received and they called in and we saw the potential for show and had them on once a week with free legal advice which turned into a 40k a year ad buy. gone. where. tune in to wags and elliot and you will find out. The Movie Tavern, another buy brought to sales by me and my love for film. we were on our second three month buy, now wave that bye bye because again, Tom ain't dragging his happy ass down to see movies with listeners. Columbus Car Audio, who was there prior, but had exhausted all ideas until i gave sales, 'win Mo's mostly used stereo', and was working on the next good idea. i could go on, and i could, but the point is made, simply put, i was paying my own salary. Nabco need not have worried about me. i was their best sales person. and it was only to get better. things a board of directors either ignores or simply doesn't understand.

it's sad, and not necessarily for me, for again, i was afforded a great opportunity, made great friends for life and am moving on to direct a movie in columbus this Feb, that i was in pre-production on for over a year, believe me, i saw the writing on the wall. so i am good. i left on very good terms and wouldn't hesitate to accept the call back. even at a reduced salary. hell, i would have taken a pay cut if anyone had asked. it's sad because i see my friends there making what i think is a move in the wrong direction. Nabco, with its three stations should be Columbus' voice! but it seems they are moving away from being able to be just that. it's more than a little ironic that you brand yourself "Columbus' Rock Station" then effectively become all but the only rock station in Columbus without a local morning show. vision. long term. ride the storm. this is not a problem inherent with Nabco but radio across the nation.

secondly, as i have seen it discussed here on this board that Nabco wants to reach the 25 54 demo and Bob and Tom can do that better, well that's not true. Blazor and myself had growing 25 54 numbers when we were Blazor And Mo, which is to say when they brought us back, after, and i don't care what research says, and ill advised 2 months off, then threw 6 songs an hour onto the show, (and when two of those songs are one by Metallica at 8 min and one by GNR at 7 1/2, that is now an 8 song hour) and reduce talk time to 8 min an hour, that is not a morning show. that is not going to work. even if it was promoted which it was not. ironically, they now have a heavily promoted morning show with zero songs which begs me to ask humbly, what were Blazor and I doing for the past 8 months? vision. long term. ride the storm. and for the love of god if you want 25 54 numbers STOP PLAYING SO MUCH METALLICA! there are bands that grow, U2 and their fans grow with them. then there are bands that show no growth what-so-ever so the age of the average fan when they first achieved success, 18 to 34, will be the age of people that will continue to find them fascinating. i don't know many 40 year olds that were waiting for Death Magnetic.

i hope this did not come off as vitriolic. i truely have no anger, but i am awash in dissapointment at what was on its way to be. perhaps this needed to be moved from in front of me to complete my film, Benediction (thebenedictionmovie.com) and that holds richer rewards, but i will miss my friends, co-workers, bosses, even hal fish, lay off the guy, he's got a lot of hair to worry about, but more importantly, good personality driven LOCAL morning radio. you will never compete with the iPod or a morning show that is the equivelant of that.

mo rocka
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Actually, Michael Alwood was the latest casualty last Tuesday, but that's neither here nor there.

May I suggest you get in contact with Gary Richards in the event of his future resurfacing somewhere on the Columbus radio dial? I'll be happy to give you his number if you drop me a personal message.

Your sales background will be especially helpful, and should he find a new outlet, the former WVKO listeners became disenchanted with Bill Press after his appearance was cancelled this past spring.

Good luck to you, Mo.
 
empathy for Michael Alwood, though i must disagree when you say, "that's neither here nor there", i think what's happened to him, i and others will soon be everywhere and that will probably soon render radio chat boards like this, obsolete. i will drop you a personal message, but i must say i have no background in sales. i was able to pull those clients in through me and my partners morning show, being on the air, given the time to talk and being local so that we were also seen. that's what a good morning show does. a good local morning show, and i keep stressing local because i believe syndication to a great degree is what's wrong with radio. what i was saying in that post was that even though i wasn't in sales, i think it was overlooked that for all intent and purposes, they had someone doing that job as well as his own. thanks again for the well wishes. may the new year find you prospering.
 
Mo-

Class, dignity, perspective. You have them; keep them. Adversity is sometimes a prelude to greatness.

My best to you and Mark.
 
Seems like Mo Knows. However, it appears that the one(s) making the decisions don't know. Could it be that they are so deep in the forest, that they can't see the trees? ???
 
Mo,

Great post! I too was a casualty of the Columbus Radio Gauntlet in 08. It was above and beyond the hardest day of my life. After all, it was the first time I was fired and it was after 12 years of service. I am very proud of what I was able to accomplish while I was there, but I have to tell you that I was more proud of how I handled my termination. I went home to my wife and kids, had a moment, then told myself that you are only judged by what you did yesterday if you have no tomorrow. I have since found something even better than I had, without uprooting my family. Opportunity is out there and I know you will be fine. You attitude is just right for success. The scars of 2008 will only make us tougher and ready for what is to come in 2009. Good Luck!

Ty
 
You're complaining that NABCO let you go when you were making a six figure salary? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???? Of course they let you go. There are much more talented people out there working their asses off for less than half of what you were making. AND YOU FREAKING COMPLAIN?
Just be happy you were getting paid that much money for doing something you loved. You could have been digging ditches and getting paid half of what NABCO was giving you.
 
Mo!!!!!!!!!! Is this THEE Mo? Columbus comedy role model Mo? Wow, I cannot believe you are on this forum. OK, one question Mo. Speaking for all Day 1ers, I think it is about time someone gave us an explanation about what happened to the Grego Show???? Also, is Grego somewhere that we can listen to him on the internet?

Mr Clean, I think you need to read the post again. Mo said he was paying his own salary with the sales jobs he did. And you say there are more talented people working their asses off for less than half of what Mo made. That is true, but I would also say there are a lot of less talented people who don't accomplish anything really but yet make more than that. Obviously the people running 99.7 and 103.9 would fall in that category as far as I am concerned.

And how the heck do you fire someone right before Christmas? Seriously? I read on this board how Clear Channel does that every year. What is with that? Are these companies really so poorly managed that they cannot see this stuff coming farther in advance?
 
whodey, I had someone explain to me why people get canned before Christmas---and it makes sense. They want the fired employees "off the books" before the first quarter of the following year--and since most will be on vacation after Christmas through Jan 1st---the firings must occur before Christmas. Didnt say I agree with it---but it does make sense....
 
Sorry to see (hear) you go, Mo.

Mo's Mix and your relentless support for Elbow were the only things that kept 99.7 on my presets.

I'm not usually one to predict the future but I can say with confidence that there is now a 0.00% chance that I'll ever flip to a NABCO station when my Usual Suspects start to get dull. I didn't listen for Ronni Hunter's tired gimmick and I listened in spite of Blazor's stupid name. Bob and Tom? They were too old for my tastes last time they were on in this market and I don't think they've done anything to freshen the content.

I do agree that you've got to spend money to make money. If management would invest in talented, hard-working people with progressive (although perhaps unfamiliar) ideas, they'd get a higher percentage back in return.
 
Re: Sorry to see (hear) you go, Mo.

Snat said:
I didn't listen for Ronni Hunter's tired gimmick and I listened in spite of Blazor's stupid name.

What is Ronni's tired gimmick?  I have some guesses as to what you might mean, but better to ask.

Snat said:
I do agree that you've got to spend money to make money.  If management would invest in talented, hard-working people with progressive (although perhaps unfamiliar) ideas, they'd get a higher percentage back in return.

That's the truth.  And if anyone should be able to do it, it's a Mom-n-Pop with no debt-service to deal with and no hot-to-trot investors or shareholders clamoring for instant results. It's that whole instant-economic-gratification mindset that fueled the current economic disaster.
 
Mr. Clean, with all due respect perhaps you need to re-read my post. I complained about certain things, but being let go was not one of them. As a matter of fact, i didn't complain at all more than just state facts. And your statement, "You were making six figures, of course they let you go," shows a profound lack of understanding of the entire point. I WAS PAYING MY OWN SALARY, they didn't have to worry they only had to reap. i won't disagree that there are more talented people than me as well, assuming of course you are not including yourself in that group.
 
Re: Sorry to see (hear) you go, Mo.

Snat said:
Mo's Mix and your relentless support for Elbow were the only things that kept 99.7 on my presets.

I'm not usually one to predict the future but I can say with confidence that there is now a 0.00% chance that I'll ever flip to a NABCO station when my Usual Suspects start to get dull. I didn't listen for Ronni Hunter's tired gimmick and I listened in spite of Blazor's stupid name. Bob and Tom? They were too old for my tastes last time they were on in this market and I don't think they've done anything to freshen the content.

I do agree that you've got to spend money to make money. If management would invest in talented, hard-working people with progressive (although perhaps unfamiliar) ideas, they'd get a higher percentage back in return.

They finally put a nail in the coffin of the mix, but Elbow will never die. Nor I assume wll Ronnie Hunter whom I love, gimmick (?) or no. More important than your "spend money to make money" i think might be, "don't waste money you've already spent."
 
Whodey07 said:
Mo!!!!!!!!!! Is this THEE Mo? Columbus comedy role model Mo? Wow, I cannot believe you are on this forum. OK, one question Mo. Speaking for all Day 1ers, I think it is about time someone gave us an explanation about what happened to the Grego Show???? Also, is Grego somewhere that we can listen to him on the internet?

Mr Clean, I think you need to read the post again. Mo said he was paying his own salary with the sales jobs he did. And you say there are more talented people working their asses off for less than half of what Mo made. That is true, but I would also say there are a lot of less talented people who don't accomplish anything really but yet make more than that. Obviously the people running 99.7 and 103.9 would fall in that category as far as I am concerned.

And how the heck do you fire someone right before Christmas? Seriously? I read on this board how Clear Channel does that every year. What is with that? Are these companies really so poorly managed that they cannot see this stuff coming farther in advance?

The Grego Show, well that would take about an hour and some drinks, which i have both or so hit me up some time and i can relate to you how and why that imploded. Thanks for the response to Mr. Clean, i wrote the same before realizing you had already pointed it out. not sure what the source of his hostility towards me is anyway. one would think he was paying my salary. finally, in Nabco's defense as far as the time of the firing... i was still warmly invited to the Christmas party, at which i stole some home-made sausage. karma's a bitch.
 
MrClean said:
You're complaining that NABCO let you go when you were making a six figure salary? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???? Of course they let you go. There are much more talented people out there working their asses off for less than half of what you were making. AND YOU FREAKING COMPLAIN?
Just be happy you were getting paid that much money for doing something you loved. You could have been digging ditches and getting paid half of what NABCO was giving you.

btw, my salary was only undeserved if the ratings did not bear it out which it did as i was consistantly being bonused on landing in the top 3. and wouldn't losing as you say an "undeserved six figure salary" be the very thing one would complain about. which i did not. i mean, honestly, whose going to complain about losing a job at Chipoltle? and finally, Nabco did not "Give" me anything. i worked the for 3 and a half years and never missed a day and remained while 4 people were fired around me. i "Earned" every penny of that pay. thanks for your time.
 
mo rock said:
MrClean said:
You're complaining that NABCO let you go when you were making a six figure salary? ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME???? Of course they let you go. There are much more talented people out there working their asses off for less than half of what you were making. AND YOU FREAKING COMPLAIN?
Just be happy you were getting paid that much money for doing something you loved. You could have been digging ditches and getting paid half of what NABCO was giving you.

btw, my salary was only undeserved if the ratings did not bear it out which it did as i was consistantly being bonused on landing in the top 3. and wouldn't losing as you say an "undeserved six figure salary" be the very thing one would complain about. which i did not. i mean, honestly, whose going to complain about losing a job at Chipoltle? and finally, Nabco did not "Give" me anything. i worked the for 3 and a half years and never missed a day and remained while 4 people were fired around me. i "Earned" every penny of that pay. thanks for your time.

If you're going to quote me, you might want to get my actual quote right. I never said "undeserved six figure salary". But you said it. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..... :)

Thanks for your time too! ;)
 
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i was still warmly invited to the Christmas party, at which i stole some home-made sausage. karma's a bitch.
[/quote] So ur a sausage smuggler? ;D
 
As someone who programs...I can tell you that Metallica does appeal to the 25-54s. In fact, most of their "Black Album", some of "Master" & "Ride", and a few "Load/Reload" tracks usually show up on the first page of every music test. As a 40-year old myself, I'm just about right in the middle of that precious desired demo. And...Metallica (along with U-2) are the biggest Rock band of our generation. The response to "Death Magnetic" tracks has been the most positive since the Black Album. The shows are filled with older fans now. It's been a big resurgence for the band. So, it stands to reason that those 25-54s would be more receptive to Metallica music on their favorite station than the past few years. When you look at what bands are doing well right now, they're not the bands that skew younger. The kids are embracing AC/DC, Metallica, and bands like Nickelback. Who..in my humble opinion are the Foreigner/Journey/Insert safe-mainstream-rock band-of-a-40-something's-youth-here of today.

Having to play music is a tough pill to swallow for all talent. The reason? Control. Radio is now run by people who aren't music fans. Those who make the decisions, do so with spreadsheets, and reach/frequency formulas. It's no longer about the Rock n' Roll fan, getting the new CD from Band-X and whipping it on the air to spread the gospel. It hasn't been about that for a long time. So, the talent feels like they're being held accountable to hold an audience...but have no control over the content of their show. This is a somewhat valid concern. Let's face it...If the audience hates the song you're playing, and tunes out, you're the one who loses cume. And it's ain't because you're not entertaining. It's Tom Petty's fault. And the trick here is to only program proven, mass-appeal music. And that music is? The same Metallica song that talent hate playing because they view it as an intrusion/diversion from their entertaining, personality-driven airshift.

And, part of that issue is, we're no longer in the music-education business. Program Directors have so much on their plates that it's almost impossible for them to actually sit down, and listen to music. They have a meeting to go to to set up this quarters' NTR event. Then, they have to chair the Promotions Meeting and try to find a way to wrangle T-Shirts/Stickers/Banner Roll with no budget. Did I mention they also have to cut part-timers hours, because there's no money for people to be on the air because we're trading out spots to cover the costs of the van repairs? So, we continue to slam the same tired songs we've been playing for decades. It's very difficult to grow new music into library because the shelf life, and setup necessary to do so, takes too much time from the PD's day. Most Music Directors are glorified secretaries. They just plug in the songs that the out-of-town consultant feeds the PD because "it's testing in Madison."

There's a huge problem with music-based radio. But, it's not all our fault. Record companies are not committed to artist development. But, neither are we. It's not easy to make some of these bands interesting. Quick! Who plays bass for Nickleback? Who cares? They're faceless. But, they sold 7 million copies of their last CD, and they're selling 2 million so far of this one. Why? How are they connecting with the audience? It certainly isn't "the most music in Columbus" or "another 10-in-a-row." Somewhere, somehow, people are finding out about Nickelback. It certainly isn't from radio. We concede the artist development to the internet. And only now, are we considering that our web pages might be more than just billboards for banner ads. (Not really...we're fixated on NASCAR-ing our sites too...mistake!) Programming is being utilized to bolster sales. And although that's part of what we do...it's become Kudzu. We are now sacrificing the product in the name of sales. Short-term solution at the expense of the brand. Some of it is our fault in programming for not keeping focus of what we need to do. And, part of it is people who have no idea what we do. Most management people have no idea what it's like to open a mic. Wouldn't know what the hell to do. Same with your sales managers. None of them can do our jobs. If they could, we'd be gone tomorrow. Sales people are a different mindset, but unfortunately, that mindset is most closely connected to revenue, and therefore will always get the benefit of the doubt from those in control.

And what happens when your brand becomes tarnished? You change formats.

We always hear that our job is to establish a connection with the audience. So, then why is it OK to treat that connection as a disposable commodity? Music is not supposed to be disposable. It's supposed to evoke an emotion. And we're supposed to be working toward that goal. But...we don't. Talent treat music as an intrusion. We half-heartedly sell it. We whip through the calls with no pride. We treat the station like it's their pleasure to have us in their studios. Because we're in such a hurry to get that next dick-joke, or parody on the air. We often forget that the listener might be friggin' stoked that you're playing "Rocket" by Def Leppard. It might be their favorite song. This is show business. We are playing a role. And that role is to sell a lifestyle. To help that person escape for a few minutes. And if we embrace the music as a facet of the show to cleanse the palette, and prepare the next segment of our brilliant content, it becomes an enhancement. The better we are at that sell...the better the audience thinks our show is. How may of you have worked in music radio and had a listener call to tell you that you play the best music on the station? Meanwhile...it's the same 300 songs everyone else is playing. You're making a stronger connection. For whatever reason. The music and how we sell it, can absolutely be a positive. If you're going to be forced to include music in your show, then embrace it, and be the foremost authority on everything about music...as well as the brilliant entertainer that you believe you are.

Now...of course this really only applies to those who have to play music during their show. But, a good 8 minute song is an opportunity to set up the next bit, edit calls etc. It's like having underscore music to get to the next segment.

We have this notion that people hang on our every syllable. Ironically, we're told that they want "more music" in the morning...and then replace us with a syndicated show that plays almost none. The reality is...balance is tantamount to success. There are music intensive morning shows that do VERY well. Because the show is the correct balance of great songs, and non-musical content. Conversely, there are morning shows that are just murder to listen to due to the hosts incessant need to hear themselves speak. Needless babbling, wrapped in canned laughter, and horrible bits from prep services. Homogenized, boring, radio. Or, it's the wacky "morning zoo." And of course, we cannot leave out the "naked chick in the studio show."

Now, I could easily rip apart the Bob & Tom Show. And I'm sure there are those whom would agree with every point that I'd present. But, the reality is, they work in certain Midwest cities. When I was doing mornings at Eagle, I think B&T were on The Fox? Sorry..don't remember the station. But...the excuse was always "signal deficient." That's not an issue with 99.7. So, we'll see if they can compete on an even field with the other successful Columbus morning shows.

The real answer is...We as an industry must let sales worry about obtaining units to fills the stopsets, and have programming focus on the on-air product. And, it's incumbent upon Sales management to make sure the sales people know the f'n product! That's where Programming can do their most important work. How can you sell something you know nothing about? How many sales people even know their on-air lineup off the top of their heads? Can they name the core artists without opening their 1-sheet? Do they really know their station? And does talent understand that clients will love the occasional name-drop? Some do. Most don't think of it.


I'm sorry to hear you lost a decent gig. I'm more sorry to hear what they were paying you. I certainly wasn't seeing that cash at Eagle.

Good luck with your movie.
 
Mo,
I, as a radio fan in the Columbus area (Grove City actually), am really sorry to see you and Blazor go. I enjoyed your work from day 1 in Columbus. Hell, you guys made the mornings at work seem to fly by! I now see that Megan is no longer on air as well. Very sad for everyone. 99.7 went from a station that I ONLY listened to, to now one that I don't really care to listen to.
May God Bless you and your family in years to come. I know you will succeed in everything you do, please keep us informed as to any future plans.
 
Neanderpaul said:
I'm sorry to hear you lost a decent gig. I'm more sorry to hear what they were paying you. I certainly wasn't seeing that cash at Eagle.

I was with you until that sentence. What you are paid, what you earn and what you're worth are rarely synonymous.
Even if he got $1.5 million a year it shouldn't matter. More power to anyone that negotiates a deal in his or her favor.
 
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