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NBC Entertainment Exec To Jay Leno: Stop Making Fun Of Our Ratings

Consider:

NBC won 13 of the first 15 weeks of the season, largely on the
strength of Sunday Night Football and "The Voice." Since the
end of football season, "Do No Harm" lasted two episodes, "1600
Penn" and "Deception" are on the bubble, and "Smash" returned
to such dismal ratings it's been banished to Saturday night. NBC
is pinning its hopes now on "Hannibal," which debuts April 4, and
even it is derivative of Fox's hit "The Following." What's more,
as mentioned elsewhere, last month NBC fell to fifth, trailing even
Univision. ("The Following," BTW, has been the only broadcast hit
of midseason.)

ABC has also come up with two disasters: "Zero Hour" and "Red Window,"
while CBS's "Golden Boy" is at least a "maybe."

The shows creating the buzz are on cable or PBS: "The Walking Dead"
(AMC), "The Bible" (the History Channel), "Downton Abbey" (PBS), all of
which have beaten their competition (the first two have even made the
top 10 among all primetime shows); "Mad Men" starts its new season April 7.

As an article in my local paper this morning put it:

At a moment when social-media buzz and other viewer engagement are
metrics of success as never before, CBS's slate scores in old-fashioned ways:
entertaining, reassuring, even pleasantly anesthetizing its audience.
This leaves the other networks to try to copy not themselves, as CBS does
so brilliantly, but rather cable's celebrated strategy of not copying itself.

The joke may just be on the broadcast networks (excluding CBS) and not just
NBC.
 
Also strange.... NBC can't come up with new scripted shows worth a damn, but USA (which NBC owns) keeps doing it and several have hit the ball out of the park. USA also produces those shows a lot cheaper than NBC's shows.
 
....and how much mileage will the network get for all of us discussing this so called feud between Leno and the net? Seriously, this WWE type verbal hype (also one of Universal's higher rated cable shows) is being discussed on multiple platforms.
 
Studio20 said:
....and how much mileage will the network get for all of us discussing this so called feud between Leno and the net? Seriously, this WWE type verbal hype (also one of Universal's higher rated cable shows) is being discussed on multiple platforms.

Unless it translates to higher ratings, they couldn't care less.
 
BD Sullivan said:
Studio20 said:
....and how much mileage will the network get for all of us discussing this so called feud between Leno and the net? Seriously, this WWE type verbal hype (also one of Universal's higher rated cable shows) is being discussed on multiple platforms.

Unless it translates to higher ratings, they couldn't care less.

And people won't watch shows they don't like because Leno is calling NBC execs snakes. The only show that might get a bump is Tonight, which sets a higher number for Fallon to meet when he gets the show.

Jay knows how to play this game. NBC doesn't. And the longer this goes on, not only does the network look bad, Jay gets a sympathy vote, and Fallon and Myers have their confidence shaken that NBC will stand behind them.

If NBC caves and keeps Jay, Jay wins. If NBC pulls the plug on him early to stop the PR drama, it'll cost them tens of millions in penalties. Jay wins. And if NBC lets Jay go to the end of his contract, Jay wins. If Jay gets to follow that up by going to FOX for 10 years while CBS tries to solve the Letterman problem and Fallon splits the Kimmel audience, Jay wins. So does FOX.

In none of those scenarios does NBC win.
 
michael hagerty said:
BD Sullivan said:
Studio20 said:
....and how much mileage will the network get for all of us discussing this so called feud between Leno and the net? Seriously, this WWE type verbal hype (also one of Universal's higher rated cable shows) is being discussed on multiple platforms.

Unless it translates to higher ratings, they couldn't care less.

And people won't watch shows they don't like because Leno is calling NBC execs snakes. The only show that might get a bump is Tonight, which sets a higher number for Fallon to meet when he gets the show.

Jay knows how to play this game. NBC doesn't. And the longer this goes on, not only does the network look bad, Jay gets a sympathy vote, and Fallon and Myers have their confidence shaken that NBC will stand behind them.

If NBC caves and keeps Jay, Jay wins. If NBC pulls the plug on him early to stop the PR drama, it'll cost them tens of millions in penalties. Jay wins. And if NBC lets Jay go to the end of his contract, Jay wins. If Jay gets to follow that up by going to FOX for 10 years while CBS tries to solve the Letterman problem and Fallon splits the Kimmel audience, Jay wins. So does FOX.

In none of those scenarios does NBC win.

I offer you the Golden Hammer Award for nailing it. Great commentary!
 
michael hagerty said:
BD Sullivan said:
Studio20 said:
....and how much mileage will the network get for all of us discussing this so called feud between Leno and the net? Seriously, this WWE type verbal hype (also one of Universal's higher rated cable shows) is being discussed on multiple platforms.

Unless it translates to higher ratings, they couldn't care less.

And people won't watch shows they don't like because Leno is calling NBC execs snakes. The only show that might get a bump is Tonight, which sets a higher number for Fallon to meet when he gets the show.

Jay knows how to play this game. NBC doesn't. And the longer this goes on, not only does the network look bad, Jay gets a sympathy vote, and Fallon and Myers have their confidence shaken that NBC will stand behind them.

If NBC caves and keeps Jay, Jay wins. If NBC pulls the plug on him early to stop the PR drama, it'll cost them tens of millions in penalties. Jay wins. And if NBC lets Jay go to the end of his contract, Jay wins. If Jay gets to follow that up by going to FOX for 10 years while CBS tries to solve the Letterman problem and Fallon splits the Kimmel audience, Jay wins. So does FOX.

In none of those scenarios does NBC win.

Roughly a year after Leno had taken over for Carson, NBC started putting up billboards and showing ads, imploring viewers to "Stand Up for Jay," after the combination of so-so ratings, bad PR (the Kushner debacle most prominently) and the impending start of Letterman's CBS show undoubtedly jangled some nerves at 30 Rock. It would be another year before one notable arrest for prostitution changed things for the rest of Leno's original run--Hugh Grant getting busted for soliciting and Jay memorably beginning his interview by saying, "What the hell were you thinking?"
 
FredLeonard said:
Also strange.... NBC can't come up with new scripted shows worth a damn, but USA (which NBC owns) keeps doing it and several have hit the ball out of the park. USA also produces those shows a lot cheaper than NBC's shows.
That makes me wonder if there are some elements at Comcast that don't really care about improving NBC's fortunes because they feel they make more money on cable.
 
Morgan Wick said:
FredLeonard said:
Also strange.... NBC can't come up with new scripted shows worth a damn, but USA (which NBC owns) keeps doing it and several have hit the ball out of the park. USA also produces those shows a lot cheaper than NBC's shows.
That makes me wonder if there are some elements at Comcast that don't really care about improving NBC's fortunes because they feel they make more money on cable.

You're not the first to wonder. A big question the FCC had during the merger hearings was Comcast's commitment to broadcast.

And as "30 Rock" slyly pointed up in a conversation between Jack Donaghy and a Kabletown exec, the biggest line item of profit for the company is on-demand porn in hotel rooms. There's not even a close #2.
 
michael hagerty said:
Morgan Wick said:
FredLeonard said:
Also strange.... NBC can't come up with new scripted shows worth a damn, but USA (which NBC owns) keeps doing it and several have hit the ball out of the park. USA also produces those shows a lot cheaper than NBC's shows.
That makes me wonder if there are some elements at Comcast that don't really care about improving NBC's fortunes because they feel they make more money on cable.

You're not the first to wonder. A big question the FCC had during the merger hearings was Comcast's commitment to broadcast.

And as "30 Rock" slyly pointed up in a conversation between Jack Donaghy and a Kabletown exec, the biggest line item of profit for the company is on-demand porn in hotel rooms. There's not even a close #2.

I saw that episode of 30 Rock and assumed it was fiction. You mean to say Comcast actually provides porn to hotel rooms? Call me naive, but it's a bit shocking that a mainstream high-profile American media corporation would do this.

Well....maybe News Corp... ;D
 
Lkeller said:
I saw that episode of 30 Rock and assumed it was fiction. You mean to say Comcast actually provides porn to hotel rooms? Call me naive, but it's a bit shocking that a mainstream high-profile American media corporation would do this.

Well....maybe News Corp... ;D
I've read in WSJ or Time not long ago about this very subject. The profits made from on demand porn are massive and just about every media conglomerate outside of The Mouse have a huge stake in it.
 
Robnoxious said:
Lkeller said:
I saw that episode of 30 Rock and assumed it was fiction. You mean to say Comcast actually provides porn to hotel rooms? Call me naive, but it's a bit shocking that a mainstream high-profile American media corporation would do this.

Well....maybe News Corp... ;D
I've read in WSJ or Time not long ago about this very subject. The profits made from on demand porn are massive and just about every media conglomerate outside of The Mouse have a huge stake in it.
Two reasons for that (assuming you're not joking):
1. Disney wants to maintain its family-friendly image at all costs.
2. Disney has ESPN.
 
I did see some cartoons online in which Donald Duck and Minnie Mouse .... oh, never mind. ::)
 
DToTheJ said:

This whole flap is deja vu Fred Allen-in-1947 all over again. Allen's 4/20/47 show was bleeped for about half a minute when he criticized NBC on-air for cutting his 4/13 show off before he was finished (the network always did so 40 seconds before the hour). Not only that, but Red Skelton and Bob Hope were bleeped by NBC for talking about it. So the idea of NBC being pathologically thin-skinned goes back over 65 years.

NBC relented a few days later. Allen's show was canceled in 1949.

Link: Tralfaz
 
KeithE4 said:
DToTheJ said:

This whole flap is deja vu Fred Allen-in-1947 all over again. Allen's 4/20/47 show was bleeped for about half a minute when he criticized NBC on-air for cutting his 4/13 show off before he was finished (the network always did so 40 seconds before the hour). Not only that, but Red Skelton and Bob Hope were bleeped by NBC for talking about it. So the idea of NBC being pathologically thin-skinned goes back over 65 years.

NBC relented a few days later. Allen's show was canceled in 1949.

Link: Tralfaz
Red Skelton bleeped? Surely not!
 
Red Skelton bleeped? Surely not! [/quote]

Apparently so. And don't call me Shirley! ;D
 
Disney wouldn't be in this. It's the providers of cable and satellite service (Comcast, Verizon, Cox, Time Warner, News Corp, whoever owns Dish),and it appears to be a business in decline as more people bring their own laptops, iPads, etc and avoid having the X-rated movie charge show up on the bill. It's down to about $50 million for Comcast now. Still too early to walk away from.
 
And in an amazing coincidence, tonight's syndicated 30 Rock episode (running simultaneously on WGN America and the local MNT affiliate) was....the Kabletown porn episode.
 
Good one tonight: Leno mentioned the rumor that he was being replaced by a younger host (cue the photo of Jimmy Fallon), fast forward to Letterman also being replaced with a younger host (insert the photo of Leno). Jay chuckled and said, "I like that one."
 
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