NBC O&O KXAS AIRING CARTOONS IN DAYTIME WEEKDAY SCHEDULE? GET REAL!

[MikeShannon914]

11AM-12 noon Monday and Tuesday...cartoons. This is the best an O&O can do?!?!?!?!?!?!? And it's not anything that's even good (some cheaply-produced Canadian stuff.) Some poorly-drawn elephant and other figures. At least throw on some "Jetsons" or "Hong Kong Phooey." Ya know, they couldn't get rid of cartoons quickly enough on Sat mornings...and now this on weekdays.

May I suggest instead:

- Reruns of "The Texas News," so viewers can see the good ol' days at KXAS/WBAP-TV, before robotic cameras and robotic anchors took over.

- A return of Peter Marshall and Leslie Uggams in the syrupy, sappy "Fantasy" (c. 1982.)

- A return of "Dateline" with Bobbie Wygant

- Resurrect the "Officer Friendly Show" from KRLD-TV

- "Harold Taft Classics"...antique weather forecasts with his famous hand-drawn maps

- And maybe this would be a good time to finally show all those episodes of "Classic Concentration" that Channel 5 permanently pre-empted in 1988-89. Same for "Santa Barbara," "Texas," "Passions," the 1970s version of "You Don't Say," and the first two seasons of "Card Sharks"

- Or, just plug in some Art Fleming episodes of "Jeopardy," since it used to run at 11:30AM anyway on Ch 5...or the later entries in that slot, "Chico and the Man" and "The Gong Show."

Suppose we could petition the local cable companies to bring in KTEN-Sherman/Denison as our local NBC default station instead?

(Oh, and KXAS *WAS* showing informercials in this slot up until recently.)

 

[RadioFanBoy]

I'm guessing your referring to Qubo, the 3 hr "E/I" block NBC runs on Saturday Mornings to fufill its FCC requirement. Perhaps this Mon-Tues airing was done only durning the Olympics. Or KXAS is clearing the way for College Football on Saturday Mornings.

 

[Slambang]

I thought qubo was being ran on the subchannel? Thats an odd thing...

Dont forget classic re-runs of "Love Connection", it'll be back in two and two

 

[X-Man]

I found it very odd that NBC 5 was airing cartoons on Monday, but come to find they probably put that in the 11am timeslot because of the Olympics coverage on the weekend, other than that it would've been shown at it's regular time slot. As far as Qubo I believe it's on the subchannel for KPXD Ch. 68. In the 11am timeslot this fall NBC 5 is going to put The Bonnie Hunt Show on instead of informercials.

I also forgot about Fantasy, that's a show from the past. Boy Mike, you brought some memories on that one

 

[Slambang]

Wonder how long Bonnie Hunts new syndie talker will last, and it is being produced by worldwide pants?

 

[bpatrick]

Even if wanted to, and the shows were available,
KXAS wouldn't have the Art Fleming version of
"Jeopardy!" at 11 AM (not 11:30, that's when
"Who, What Or Where" came on). KTVT carries
Alex's version of "Jeopardy!" at that time.

And if you're talking about the short-lived 1978
syndicated version of "You Don't Say!" that's one
thing, but the 1975 version was on ABC. BTW, that
was about a year before I moved to Dallas. Did
Channel 8 carry it?

But I also suspect the cartoons were a one-time-only
thing, again to satisfy the FCC's requirement of three
hours a week of kids' shows which, in this case, were
no doubt pre-empted by the Olympics. In fact, this
coming Saturday a number of NBC stations in the
Carolinas and Georgia will have cartoons virtually all
afternoon, probably for the same reason.

 

[MikeShannon914]

Ahhh, you are correct on "You Don't Say." Channel 8 did not carry it in 1975.

KXAS really butchered the NBC daytime schedule in the 1970s and 80s. (There was a thread on this many months ago on this board.) They rearranged it to their own liking, even if it meant a tape-delay of one day on the soaps (which put the week-ending cliffhanger on Mondays instead of Fridays.) Looking back just now, it appears that the mess started when LIN bought WBAP-TV and switched it to KXAS in 1974. The 1972 schedule (from the nbc5i.com website) looked like this:

9 a.m. - Dinah's Place [my note: not sure why Ch 5 carried only 30 mins of this one-hour show?!?]
9:30 - Concentration
10 a.m. - Sale of the Century
10:30 - Hollywood Squares
11 a.m. - Jeopardy
11:30 - Who, What or Where
11:55 - NBC News
12 p.m. - High Noon News (Frank Mills, Bernie Tamayo, Ron Godbey)
12:20 - Dateline
12:30 - Three on a Match
1 p.m. - Days of Our Lives
1:30 - The Doctors
2 p.m. - Another World
2:30 - Return to Peyton Place
3 p.m. - Somerset
3:30 - Mike Douglas
4:30 - Truth or Consequences
5 p.m. - Inside Area 5 (Roy Eaton, Russ Bloxom)
5:30 - NBC Nightly News
6 p.m. - The Texas News (Russ Bloxom, Ward Andrews, Harold Taft and Boyd Matson)

I compared it to my 1972 "Fall Preview" TV Guide from Los Angeles, and found the schedules nearly identical. WBAP-TV did bump down the entire afternoon schedule to accommodate the High Noon News, and even KNBC didn't show "Somerset." I guess "T or C" was syndicated by then, as WBAP ran it in during that 'slot returned to the local stations.'

If I can dig out some later TV Guides sometime, perhaps I can make a better illustration of what happened in those LIN years!

I also forgot about Fantasy, that's a show from the past. Boy Mike, you brought some memories on that one

I hated that show!! Mainly because NBC dumped out of the spring/summer 1982 first-run reruns of "CHiPs" that September to put on "Fantasy." But that show reminded me of "Girl in My Life," the garbage ABC put on when "The Dating Game" was canceled in July, 1973. (Both basically were regurgitations of "Queen for a Day." Bleah.)

 

[X-Man]

Ahhh, you are correct on "You Don't Say." Channel 8 did not carry it in 1975.

KXAS really butchered the NBC daytime schedule in the 1970s and 80s. (There was a thread on this many months ago on this board.) They rearranged it to their own liking, even if it meant a tape-delay of one day on the soaps (which put the week-ending cliffhanger on Mondays instead of Fridays.) Looking back just now, it appears that the mess started when LIN bought WBAP-TV and switched it to KXAS in 1974. The 1972 schedule (from the nbc5i.com website) looked like this:

9 a.m. - Dinah's Place [my note: not sure why Ch 5 carried only 30 mins of this one-hour show?!?]
9:30 - Concentration
10 a.m. - Sale of the Century
10:30 - Hollywood Squares
11 a.m. - Jeopardy
11:30 - Who, What or Where
11:55 - NBC News
12 p.m. - High Noon News (Frank Mills, Bernie Tamayo, Ron Godbey)
12:20 - Dateline
12:30 - Three on a Match
1 p.m. - Days of Our Lives
1:30 - The Doctors
2 p.m. - Another World
2:30 - Return to Peyton Place
3 p.m. - Somerset
3:30 - Mike Douglas
4:30 - Truth or Consequences
5 p.m. - Inside Area 5 (Roy Eaton, Russ Bloxom)
5:30 - NBC Nightly News
6 p.m. - The Texas News (Russ Bloxom, Ward Andrews, Harold Taft and Boyd Matson)

I compared it to my 1972 "Fall Preview" TV Guide from Los Angeles, and found the schedules nearly identical. WBAP-TV did bump down the entire afternoon schedule to accommodate the High Noon News, and even KNBC didn't show "Somerset." I guess "T or C" was syndicated by then, as WBAP ran it in during that 'slot returned to the local stations.'

If I can dig out some later TV Guides sometime, perhaps I can make a better illustration of what happened in those LIN years!

I also forgot about Fantasy, that's a show from the past. Boy Mike, you brought some memories on that one

I hated that show!! Mainly because NBC dumped out of the spring/summer 1982 first-run reruns of "CHiPs" that September to put on "Fantasy." But that show reminded me of "Girl in My Life," the garbage ABC put on when "The Dating Game" was canceled in July, 1973. (Both basically were regurgitations of "Queen for a Day." Bleah.)

Yeah, I heard both Fantasy and The Girl In My Life were both flops back in the day. I didn't even know that NBC was running CHiPs re-runs in the afternoon back then. As far as KXAS's schedule from the 70's & 80's, I would've expected better from a major market NBC affiliate such as them to clear all of the NBC shows, even with all those independent stations back then, they would've picked up some of those shows that KXAS or any of the network affiliates pre-empted for other programming I know Ch. 27 could've used some of those shows in their line-up. When I look at some of the TV schedules back in the day and even now and where they put certain programs you can't help but scratch your head like "What in the world are they thinking putting that show there!" ???

 

[MikeShannon914]

CHiPs ran from March through September, 1982 on NBC daytime, 2:30-3:30PM on Ch 5. The order was all mixed up, but Wednesdays they would always show an episode from the first season, 1977-78.

Ch 27 did indeed carry NBC's "Super Password" and "Sale of the Century" in late afternoon slots for a while during 1986-87, and 27 was considered the "alternate NBC station" even in primetime if KXAS decided to show local programming, or perhaps show a local game (not sure why "Classic Concentration" didn't get picked up, too.) Didn't happen often, but I recall the Thursday night lineup moving to 27 one time (Matlock, In the Heat of the Night, Crime Story) when some local event came up that KXAS decided to carry. Now this was long before every major station in the market bought up (or LMA'ed) a UHF station. I assume NBC set this up with 27 directly.

Seems like "The Girl in My Life" and "The Newlywed Game" were both canceled at the same time, at Christmas 1974. That last "NWG" is floating around out there in the game show trading circles...Eubanks gets so emotional that he can't even say goodbye.

Just remembered that KXAS also did not air the "Hollywood Squares/Match Game Hour" in 1983-84.

 

[bpatrick]

Are you sure that Channel 5 was delaying the soaps
in 1972? Those were the times they aired in the
Central time zone (I was living in Birmingham at
the time and we got the entire NBC and CBS daytime
schedules in pattern; Channel 5's network block matches
Channel 13's in Birmingham at the time). In fact, the
first time I remember 5 delaying a daytime show was
when it ran "Sanford And Son" reruns at 3:30 instead
of 9 AM (it ran a truncated 30-minute version of "Donahue"
in 1977).

And "T or C" went into first-run syndication in 1966;
its success prompted Goodson-Todman to revive "What's
My Line?" in 1968, and "To Tell The Truth" and "Beat The
Clock" in 1969 for the first-run syndication circuit.

 

[ropertex]

I seem to remember an uproar when a delayed episode of a popular soap was not broadcast 'due to technical difficulties." Not sure if somebody forgot to start the VTR, the tape messed up, or it might have been the day after the station's power was off all afternoon.

 

[bpatrick]

It seems that people always get in an uproar when an
episode of their favorite soap gets pre-empted. IIRC,
there were even people complaining because "As The
World Turns" was cut off when JFK was assassinated.

 

[SirFreebie1975]

It seems that people always get in an uproar when an
episode of their favorite soap gets pre-empted. IIRC,
there were even people complaining because "As The
World Turns" was cut off when JFK was assassinated.

I wonder if the same happened on 9-11?

 

[fredcantu]

The most common reason for a taped soap to miss its slot was that it was pre-empted on its orginal broadcast day. Try explaining that to a viewer with a crawl or booth announcer. ''The program scheduled for broadcast at this time will not be shown today only because it didn't air when we were going to record it... or something like that.''

 

[bpatrick]

If worse comes to worse they can pull the stunt
NBC did in 1983 with "Search For Tomorrow." They
claimed (and nobody's ever proven it's true) that
somebody stole the tape of a particular episode,
necessitating that they do the show live; Don Pardo
even introduced the show: "LIVE from New York, it's
'Search For Tomorrow'"! It got the show a lot of
publicity but SFT was on a one-way ticket south by
that time (CBS had dropped it the year before).

And it wouldn't surprise me if people did complain about
their soaps being pre-empted by 9/11 coverage. However,
during the O.J. Simpson trial, a large number of people tuned
out of their soaps and never came back. So the complaints
probably weren't as extensive as they might have been prior
to the '90s.

When Dan Region was the announcer on ATWT he'd always
let us know if the show was going to be pre-empted the following
day (for holiday programming, the NCAA basketball tournament,
or whatever). I wonder if even that did any good in cutting down
the number of complaints.