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NBC said to be building new Tonight Show studio at 30 Rock

And the bad news is speculation about Leno, that he may not be included in Tonight's grand re-opening plans for 30-Rock. NY Times reports Jimmy Fallon will host.
 
jfrancispastirchak said:
And the bad news is speculation about Leno, that he may not be included in Tonight's grand re-opening plans for 30-Rock. NY Times reports Jimmy Fallon will host.

Comcast wants Leno gone ASAP
 
Cool if they are moving it back to NY where it all started. I always thought they should have moved it back when Conan took over. They should have revamped the whole show when he took over. Networks need to take risks, the world so different now more competition then there was back then. I will never understand why people compare every late night guy to Johnny, everyone has their own style. Maybe it's because I'm 27 I find most late night shows boring. Conan needed more time to build his show,and Leno needed to stay off the air while that took place. He was still under contract with NBC for 8 months after his last tonight show, But I read somewhere that in his contact they HAD to give him a show as long has he was under contract, WHY they would agree to that I have no idea. I think Fallon is a good choice for" TONIGHT" He has many talents.
 
"The Jay Leno Show" might have survived if NBC had run it once a week. When Jack Paar gave up the Tonight Show in 1962, he finished out his NBC contract with a weekly show Fridays at 10pm. It was some of the best TV ever on TV. Check out the DVD collection. Of course, some would argue that Leno was not up to Paar.
 
Fenway1912 said:
jfrancispastirchak said:
And the bad news is speculation about Leno, that he may not be included in Tonight's grand re-opening plans for 30-Rock. NY Times reports Jimmy Fallon will host.

Comcast wants Leno gone ASAP

And I think Leno knows it. That's why he's been ripping NBC - he has nothing to lose. They have to pay out his contract no matter what, so even if they shut him down, he'll cry all the way to the bank. ;D
 
jfrancispastirchak said:
And the bad news is speculation about Leno, that he may not be included in Tonight's grand re-opening plans for 30-Rock. NY Times reports Jimmy Fallon will host.

How is this "bad" news?

As a person about Jay Leno's age, it makes me a little sad when performers are dropped because they are over 60, and their audience "skews old." But in my opinion, Leno's act is stale. Even Letterman, who's about the same age, has a fresher act, IMO.

Also IMO, Jimmy Kimmel is a very funny and talented guy. Even if his ratings at 11:35 are lower than Leno's, Kimmel has got to be attracting a more desirable (younger) demographic.

If NBC can switch Fallon out for Leno, and still maintain the number one ratings spot, it's a win-win for them.

The Conan Tonight Show was executed very poorly - mostly by Conan and his writers. I had to stop watching, and I've always been a fan. It's hard to believe that it's the same Conan O'Brien who has that excellent show on TBS. But there's no reason to think that fiasco will be repeated on NBC with Fallon.
 
Lkeller said:
But in my opinion, Leno's act is stale. Even Letterman, who's about the same age, has a fresher act, IMO.

Funny. I watch Letterman and I see an angry old man with an act that's a good 20 years past its prime.

So...when Letterman retires, does a Tonight Show move to NYC open the door for CBS to move Late Show to L.A.? Perhaps with Conan jumping from TBS to host?
 
"Angry old man"? Dave's humor is definitely more sarcastic but he laughs out loud more than any other latenight host. I love the sometimes off-the-hook writing on the show...his old NBC show comes off very corny in comparison, imo.

I agree Kimmel is gaining...he's funnier than all of them. The consensus on Fallon where I work is "lame."
 
Fallon is a team player and not afraid to share the limelight. He treats his guests well. He has talent and with the aid of makeup can mimic most any performer. I think his "Tonight" show would become "must see" television and bring a freshness not seen since the Carson days. Even now, many of his clips are the most viewed clips on hulu.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/466458

By the way, doesn't his announcer look like Steve Allen?
 
Leno's time isn't done, but if they're going to make a change, Fallon is a good choice. I see the show falling to third place though, at least for a time.
 
benwolf said:
"Angry old man"? Dave's humor is definitely more sarcastic but he laughs out loud more than any other latenight host. I love the sometimes off-the-hook writing on the show...his old NBC show comes off very corny in comparison, imo.

We all know the old idiom about "one man's trash..."
 
All this sounds too much like the heritage 66-year-old morning man who gets replaced by a younger, cheaper, more aggressive, harder working 35 year old. We've seen that movie play out at hundreds of radio stations around the country, and we all know how it ends. Where's the boomer outrage? I guess Jay already burned it once.
 
TheProToolsParadox said:
Lkeller said:
But in my opinion, Leno's act is stale. Even Letterman, who's about the same age, has a fresher act, IMO.

Funny. I watch Letterman and I see an angry old man with an act that's a good 20 years past its prime.

So...when Letterman retires, does a Tonight Show move to NYC open the door for CBS to move Late Show to L.A.? Perhaps with Conan jumping from TBS to host?

I was thinking the same thing. Conan seems like the most obvious choice by Letterman when he retires.
 
With the Tonight Show likely moving to New York City, it's going to be the end of era at NBC in Burbank. With KNBC (and I believe its Telemundo sister KVEA as well) and Access Hollywood set to move the over the hill to Universal Studios by next year, Tonight is the last show being regularly produced at 3000 West Alameda. The facility will still be there, as NBC sold the lot a few years ago, but continue to lease it.

As to Leno...I'm not a real big fan of his, but I feel sorry for the guy. This is really the third time they've tried to get rid of him; during the fiasco involving him and David Letterman, NBC originally gave Leno a 13-week run, and if he failed, Letterman would get the Tonight Show. Of course, Letterman, not without his own strained relationship with the Peacock, on Johnny Carson's advice bolted for CBS when his NBC contract was expiring, and the rest is history.

Leno has been dominating his timeslot for the most of the last two decades, and surely makes a lot of money for NBC (and for himself as well). If anything, he deserves to go out on his own accord.
 
FightingIrish said:
Conan seems like the most obvious choice by Letterman when he retires.

May seem hard to believe but Conan is a bit too old to replace Letterman. They might as well pick Ray Romano.

I think there are better/younger/hipper people already within the CBS system that they're thinking about.
 
TheProToolsParadox said:
Lkeller said:
But in my opinion, Leno's act is stale. Even Letterman, who's about the same age, has a fresher act, IMO.

Funny. I watch Letterman and I see an angry old man with an act that's a good 20 years past its prime.

So...when Letterman retires, does a Tonight Show move to NYC open the door for CBS to move Late Show to L.A.? Perhaps with Conan jumping from TBS to host?

Not so much angry, just old (and I'm also a boomer, so I'm not age-biased). He comes off like a crusty night club comic who's been phoning it in for years, thinking he's still got it when it's painfully obvious he is just going through the motions... and I never cared for the forced applause after EVERY line no matter how unfunny.
 
TheProToolsParadox said:
Lkeller said:
But in my opinion, Leno's act is stale. Even Letterman, who's about the same age, has a fresher act, IMO.
Funny. I watch Letterman and I see an angry old man with an act that's a good 20 years past its prime. So...when Letterman retires, does a Tonight Show move to NYC open the door for CBS to move Late Show to L.A.? Perhaps with Conan jumping from TBS to host?
"...(IMO) Leno's act is stale..." You may be right, but I still enjoy his schtick. And that might be due to my age, 60-ish. My view: Leno appeals to a broader audience range than any of his late night competitors, the rest of whom appear to be targeting a narrower 18 to 30-ish market. If there is a glimmer of the Carson appeal still alive, Leno has it.

"Letterman... angry old man" I agree. An earlier post noted hosts having the skills necessary to make their guests "look good". Letterman doesn't. And even before guests hit the stage, Letterman's monologues often sound like he'd rather be somewhere else.
 
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