NBC Sucks Again... For NOT covering the Olympic Ceremonies LIVE.

[TheBigA]

I don't think NBC can afford to lose many more viewers. After all, they aren't exactly the TV version of OWN.

There's no connection at all between their delaying certain Olympics events and their standing in the ratings. In fact, at the end of the year, the Olympics will be one of their major successes, along with The Voice. The way to win back viewers is to create more successful series programs, not cow-tow to the whims of a handful of complainers.

 

[TheBigA]

I do not and I will not care -- the main thing is that every other country watched the ceremony live and unfiltered, while Americans could not,

So watch a feed from another country. Lots of people here seem to be able to do that...why not you?

NBC paid the money, so it's their show, and they get to make the rules. In those other countries, the media is owned by the government, and so it's a very different story. You want to get what you want for free, and that's not how things work.

 

[JayR]

As for viewers, contrary to the neverending complaints online, they're getting more viewers per night than Atlanta so far:

http://nbcumv.com/mediavillage/spor...s/2012/07/30/nbcsthreedayave1343677084493.xml

Unbiased source I see... :

I'm getting my LIVE (and commercial free) coverage on the BBC. NBC can go pound sand continue to wallow as an also ran network. NBC doesn't even deserve 4th place.

Fourth place would be a major improvement in the Miami market...they're trailing in sixth place behind Univision and sister network Telemundo.

 

[landtuna]

There's no connection at all between their delaying certain Olympics events and their standing in the ratings. In fact, at the end of the year, the Olympics will be one of their major successes, along with The Voice. The way to win back viewers is to create more successful series programs, not cow-tow to the whims of a handful of complainers.

The Olympics are always a major TV success, just like the Super Bowl. Guaranteed ratings. But one hump on the camel doesn't translate to two and the Olympics won't finance the rest of the year for NBC nor would savvy agencies believe those ratings could be sustained without quality in their normal programming.

I am not suggesting that NBC cow-tow to a handful of anyone and am not one of those who has complained....simply because I don't watch the Olympics and could care less when they are shown. But if I did want to watch the various events live and without all the blabber it would be online. Even in a foreign language the announcing makes more sense than listening to Matt Lauer.

 

[firepoint525]

If anyone talks too much, I tune them out. I always have. It's what I do.

The TV networks believe that their target audience wants to hear chatty hosts. I take it you're not a 30-40 year old woman. That's who they're aiming at.

I'm not, but the wife is. And she agrees with me.

 

[firepoint525]

The TV networks believe that their target audience wants to hear chatty hosts. I take it you're not a 30-40 year old woman. That's who they're aiming at. If you tune it out, they don't care.

What they may not realize is that by irritating those who want only relevant talking they are making a negative impression of their network which will translate into a general dislike and they will lose a viewer. I don't think NBC can afford to lose many more viewers. After all, they aren't exactly the TV version of OWN.

Couldn't agree more. They can't afford to lose too many more viewers. Especially if they are using the Olympics as a vehicle to launch their fall lineup (which they are).

 

[TheBigA]

But one hump on the camel doesn't translate to two and the Olympics won't finance the rest of the year for NBC nor would savvy agencies believe those ratings could be sustained without quality in their normal programming.

No one believes it will. That's no reason for then to do what you want when lots of other people feel otherwise.

Here's what I've learned from being a broadcaster: You can't please everyone. Ever. If they did things your way, there would be another bunch who'd complain about something else. If it's not one thing, it's another. Like Roseanne Rosannadanna.

 

[landtuna]

No one believes it will. That's no reason for then to do what you want when lots of other people feel otherwise.

Here's what I've learned from being a broadcaster: You can't please everyone. Ever. If they did things your way, there would be another bunch who'd complain about something else. If it's not one thing, it's another. Like Roseanne Rosannadanna.

Once again, I wasn't the one complaining about 12's coverage of the Olympics. I don't watch 12 nor have I watched the Games.

 

[liradioisbad]

As for viewers, contrary to the neverending complaints online, they're getting more viewers per night than Atlanta so far:

http://nbcumv.com/mediavillage/spor...s/2012/07/30/nbcsthreedayave1343677084493.xml

Unbiased source I see... :

Here's your unbiased source:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...-down-3-falls-in-time-period-premiere/143210/

I've just learned to stop complaining and enjoy what's around. I know where to find BBC streams for more reliable live stuff of marquee events. Besides, outside of the NFL and maybe The Voice nobody will watch NBC anyway afterwards.

 

[Mario500]

No one believes it will.  That's no reason for then to do what you want when lots of other people feel otherwise.

Here's what I've learned from being a broadcaster: You can't please everyone.  Ever.  If they did things your way, there would be another bunch who'd complain about something else.  If it's not one thing, it's another.  Like Roseanne Rosannadanna.

Once again, I wasn't the one complaining about 12's coverage of the Olympics.  I don't watch 12 nor have I watched the Games.

What is this "12"?

 

[landtuna]

What is this "12"?

Channel 12, KPNX Phoenix. NBC.

 

[landtuna]

Here's what I've learned from being a broadcaster: You can't please everyone. Ever. If they did things your way, there would be another bunch who'd complain about something else. If it's not one thing, it's another. Like Roseanne Rosannadanna.

You might want to read Dan Wetzel's latest blog. Seems the number of unhappy viewers of NBC are "in the millions".

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics--critic-of-nbc-has-twitter-account-suspended-after-network-complains.html

 

[azumanga]

What is this "12"?

Channel 12, KPNX Phoenix. NBC.

Or, as some on the Phoenix board is calling, "Mc12".

 

[oldiesfan6479]

What is this "12"?

Channel 12, KPNX Phoenix. NBC.

Or, as some on the Phoenix board is calling, "Mc12".

Thx for the Mc12 reference, azumanga!

And Senor Tuna, it's more correctly "Channel 12 KPNX Phoenix Mesa. NBC."

 

[ixnay]

And Senor Tuna, it's more correctly "Channel 12 KPNX Phoenix Mesa. NBC."

Sure you don't mean KPNX Moo Mesa*, oldiesfan?

Is Richmond, VA's Channel 12 still affiliated with the Peacock? (and since oldiesfan brought it up, IIRC one of the Big 3 Richmond market stations is licensed to Petersburg but I believe it's the ABC affiliate [at least that was the case in 2004 when I stayed in Harrisonburg one night])

*Think ABC's animated Sat. morning horse opera of 20 years ago, Wild West C.O.W. Boys of Moo Mesa, about the adventures of a three-steer posse.

ixnay

 

[liradioisbad]

Here's what I've learned from being a broadcaster: You can't please everyone. Ever. If they did things your way, there would be another bunch who'd complain about something else. If it's not one thing, it's another. Like Roseanne Rosannadanna.

You might want to read Dan Wetzel's latest blog. Seems the number of unhappy viewers of NBC are "in the millions".

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/olympics--critic-of-nbc-has-twitter-account-suspended-after-network-complains.html

I don't see any factual proof in that article that it's "in the millions." Thousands? Yes. But this is the kind of event not taylored for the usual sports fan. I read somewhere the average age of Olympic viewership is well in the fourties. I think that's a less likely demographic to go on twitter/facebook and complain. Not to mention they're more used to the formula than younger viewers.

If you really want to laugh at NBC right now, the front page of today's NY Daily News says they shipped Hoda Kotb to London since the Today Show's ratings are down even further since they removed Ann Curry. This Olympic boost is not gonna last:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...today-show-olympic-coverage-article-1.1125399

 

[recto101]

It would have been possible for border cities (Seattle,Detroit, Buffalo) to get CTV to the North of the states, and Televisa to the South (San Diego, El Paso, Brownsville) in order to get live, nonstop coverage without waiting several hours to get the results on the spot.

I don't think CTV is as widely avaliable near the border as CBC, mainly because CTV simulcasts a lot more American shows than CBC.

Well I'm Only watching the Boxing matches on CNBC I just think it more exciting than the other sports. I know in recent Olympics theres more hype in who took PED and who did not . I just think this year the USA Will suck in the Olympics simply because Theres too much hype over who took steroids from past olympics. Also US and China will be accused of Cheating the games its no surprise here.

On the other hand, Olympic boxing is long plagued with scoring problems. Even Jim Lampley went off on a rant after the gold medal basketball game in 2008 about this problem.

True and even Pro WBO Boxing during the recent Bradley Vs. PAcquiao fight there were scoring problems too.

 

[landtuna]

And Senor Tuna, it's more correctly "Channel 12 KPNX Phoenix Mesa. NBC."

I was giving him the geographic location of Channel 12, not the FCC version. But if you want to be totally correct it is "Mesa-Phoenix" although it is almost always identified on-air as "Phoenix-Mesa".

Personally, the COL means nothing to me. 12's studios are in Phoenix and so are its transmitters. It does not program expressly to Mesa but rather to the whole metro area. Therefore it is a Phoenix station.

Since nobody else pays attention to the FCC these days neither will I. ;D

 

[landtuna]

If you really want to laugh at NBC right now, the front page of today's NY Daily News says they shipped Hoda Kotb to London since the Today Show's ratings are down even further since they removed Ann Curry. This Olympic boost is not gonna last:

Apparently not lasting even now:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/london/story/2012-07-31/NBC-primetime-fails-Olympics-ratings/56609078/1

 

[TheBigA]

Did you read the article? It's not because they're not doing what you want. In fact, the article says Olympic viewing is higher in the west, where you are. The problem is the team isn't winning. No one wants to watch teams from other countries beating Americans.