New 106.5 The Lake Sounds Like WGCL G98 In The 1980'S Before It Became WNCX

[musicman44]

Need all the cleveland ohio listeners to try to listen to the new 106.5 the lake one more time if you already. The station is wanting males and females age 30 to age 45 to listen to one radio station. It sounds like WGCL G98 back in the 1980's. When WGCL changed from top 40 to WNCX classic rock I did this. :'( :'( :'( When the great radio frequency swap happen it helped out clear channel only and clear channel back then had the money to it. they have tried over the past 2 years to move all the radio statio antenna close to cleveland as they can without breaking the rules of the FCC. 96.5 antenna was south of akron and now it is north of akron. 99.5 100.7 and 106.5 antenna is in the suburbs of cleveland. 98.1 WKDD antenna was north of canton and now it is northwest of akron. 106.9 WRQK radio is in canton and is the only one that has not moved yet. Clear Channel has done this very quietly without no know noitce or caring. opps big mistake. go to www.radio-locator.com to see this info. I live in knoxville tennessee area and type this please and see what this area has for music. pit a full excuses for radio station in my area. best stations are in ohio. i listen to cleveland ohio radio all the time and i love the cleveland browns cleveland indians and the cleveland cavs. please let me know what you all think. WGCL CALL LETTERS For 106.5 THE LAKE. MMMM! IT FITS!!!

 

[nightfly61]

Too stuck on 90's standards to sound like "The Great 98". However I may tune in just for the imaging if they got Beau Coup & Jonah Koslen back together to cut a jingle package similar to the old WGCL's.

 

[musicman44]

do you think that the great 98 was a good station that should have never went away? i think so

 

[SonoSational18]

Need all the cleveland ohio listeners to try to listen to the new 106.5 the lake one more time if you already. The station is wanting males and females age 30 to age 45 to listen to one radio station. It sounds like WGCL G98 back in the 1980's. When WGCL changed from top 40 to WNCX classic rock I did this. :'( :'( :'( When the great radio frequency swap happen it helped out clear channel only and clear channel back then had the money to it. they have tried over the past 2 years to move all the radio statio antenna close to cleveland as they can without breaking the rules of the FCC. 96.5 antenna was south of akron and now it is north of akron. 99.5 100.7 and 106.5 antenna is in the suburbs of cleveland. 98.1 WKDD antenna was north of canton and now it is northwest of akron. 106.9 WRQK radio is in canton and is the only one that has not moved yet. Clear Channel has done this very quietly without no know noitce or caring. opps big mistake. go to www.radio-locator.com to see this info. I live in knoxville tennessee area and type this please and see what this area has for music. pit a full excuses for radio station in my area. best stations are in ohio. i listen to cleveland ohio radio all the time and i love the cleveland browns cleveland indians and the cleveland cavs. please let me know what you all think. WGCL CALL LETTERS For 106.5 THE LAKE. MMMM! IT FITS!!!

A few thoughts and some errata here. First, I agree with one of the posters that WGCL shouldn't have gone away. Back in the mid 80's they were out-cumeing WMMS and needed a few tweaks and not a format change. They did not initially switch to classic rock. When Metropolis bought them, they brought in John Gorman who was more motivated by a grudge against WMMS and not what the market needed or wanted. the initial format was a train-wreck AOR presentation (a prequel to today's 107.3?). They then flipped to what I would call a classic hits format which then evolved to classic rock. As for antenna moves, 96.5's tower was originally in Cuyahoga Falls. It's now in Brecksville (on the same tower as WTAM and WZAK). 98.1 HAS moved their transmitter north... twice. 98.1's stick was originally in downtown Canton. Then it moved to near Hartville, south of Akron. Now it's at the old 96.5 site in the Falls. CC also moved 101.7 from New Philly to North Canton. These moves, however, were all a matter of public record and approved by the FCC, so nothing sinister there. WRQK can't move becuase of adjacent channel issues with 106.5 and 107.3. To answer another poster... WGCL might be a good set of call letters but I suspect something that says "Lake" is probably more likely (WWLK, WLKW, WLAC, WLAA, etc.)

 

[musicman44]

where the radio antenna for 96.5, 98.1 to help these stations get better ratings from cleveland. it this is so, it was a good idea for clear channel.

 

[Rusty Muck]

A few thoughts and some errata here. First, I agree with one of the posters that WGCL shouldn't have gone away. Back in the mid 80's they were out-cumeing WMMS and needed a few tweaks and not a format change. They did not initially switch to classic rock. When Metropolis bought them, they brought in John Gorman who was more motivated by a grudge against WMMS and not what the market needed or wanted. the initial format was a train-wreck AOR presentation (a prequel to today's 107.3?). They then flipped to what I would call a classic hits format which then evolved to classic rock.

Part of the WGCL/WNCX debacle was due to the ownership (Detroit-based Metropolis Broadcasting) being a triage of utter radio novices. They had no idea what WGCL was, and went along with the rock/CHR format without any internal debate or studies as to whether or not it was wise to blow up G98. The dismissal of the entire airstaff and infamous bungling of Danny Wright's contract (they simply ran out of money to buy out his contract, and Danny was forced to board-op overnights for several months) didn't help one bit.

Then, they look at the internals that saw the ratings tanking big-time after the flip (although, to be fair, the demos were incompatible, and WNCX did start to recover in the actual demo Gorman/Sanders was trying to reach) freaked out to Jane Scott, and then pulled the plug a few weeks later.

One of the owners actually died of a brain tumor not long after the rock/CHR was abandoned, and another actually quit his job at their Detroit station. If it wasn't for Mike McVay's classic hits format holding the fort until Norman Wain, Bob Weiss & Co. swooped down on WNCX and WERE, the station easily could have fallen silent, or worse.

Obviously, Gorman and Sanders have admitted to how colossal a mistake it was to join a station with an ownership so clearly unprepared and ill-equipped.

To answer another poster... WGCL might be a good set of call letters but I suspect something that says "Lake" is probably more likely (WWLK, WLKW, WLAC, WLAA, etc.)

As for the call letters, because this is now a PPM market, the WMVX calls don't need to be changed quickly. It's the name "The Lake" that matters more in ratings data input that anything else.

WLAC-FM is available (presuming CC doesn't plan on simulcasting their 50kW news/talker on FM anytime soon). WWLK is used on a small AM station in southeastern Kentucky... but is available on the FM dial. Same with WLKW (the ESPN Radio in Providence at 1450-AM), WLAA (a Hispanic station in Orlando at 1600-AM) and WRIE (the ESPN Radio affiliate in Erie, PA).

Hey, why not WERI?

** FWIW, the WGCL calls are used on the Atlanta CBS-TV affiliate, owned by Meredith.

 

[HHH]

A few thoughts and some errata here. First, I agree with one of the posters that WGCL shouldn't have gone away. Back in the mid 80's they were out-cumeing WMMS and needed a few tweaks and not a format change. They did not initially switch to classic rock. When Metropolis bought them, they brought in John Gorman who was more motivated by a grudge against WMMS and not what the market needed or wanted. the initial format was a train-wreck AOR presentation (a prequel to today's 107.3?). They then flipped to what I would call a classic hits format which then evolved to classic rock.

Part of the WGCL/WNCX debacle was due to the ownership (Detroit-based Metropolis Broadcasting) being a triage of utter radio novices. They had no idea what WGCL was, and went along with the rock/CHR format without any internal debate or studies as to whether or not it was wise to blow up G98. The dismissal of the entire airstaff and infamous bungling of Danny Wright's contract (they simply ran out of money to buy out his contract, and Danny was forced to board-op overnights for several months) didn't help one bit.

Then, they look at the internals that saw the ratings tanking big-time after the flip (although, to be fair, the demos were incompatible, and WNCX did start to recover in the actual demo Gorman/Sanders was trying to reach) freaked out to Jane Scott, and then pulled the plug a few weeks later.

One of the owners actually died of a brain tumor not long after the rock/CHR was abandoned, and another actually quit his job at their Detroit station. If it wasn't for Mike McVay's classic hits format holding the fort until Norman Wain, Bob Weiss & Co. swooped down on WNCX and WERE, the station easily could have fallen silent, or worse.

Obviously, Gorman and Sanders have admitted to how colossal a mistake it was to join a station with an ownership so clearly unprepared and ill-equipped.

To answer another poster... WGCL might be a good set of call letters but I suspect something that says "Lake" is probably more likely (WWLK, WLKW, WLAC, WLAA, etc.)

As for the call letters, because this is now a PPM market, the WMVX calls don't need to be changed quickly. It's the name "The Lake" that matters more in ratings data input that anything else.

WLAC-FM is available (presuming CC doesn't plan on simulcasting their 50kW news/talker on FM anytime soon). WWLK is used on a small AM station in southeastern Kentucky... but is available on the FM dial. Same with WLKW (the ESPN Radio in Providence at 1450-AM), WLAA (a Hispanic station in Orlando at 1600-AM) and WRIE (the ESPN Radio affiliate in Erie, PA).

Hey, why not WERI?

** FWIW, the WGCL calls are used on the Atlanta CBS-TV affiliate, owned by Meredith.

A few corrections to your post.

The original Gorman-Sanders WNCX (October 1986-February 1989) was NOT "a trainwreck of an AOR", as you say. It was an early, groundbreaking "Rock/CHR".....a format which emerged about a year later in LA, NY, etc to some pretty impressive numbers. You compare the original WNCX to the current 107.3. Not much in common. The original WNCX had a considerable "pop" element, to the point where they had a Saturday night dance club show. The original WNCX was far more upbeat and brighter, with considerable imaging and production. They used to "walk up the music and hit the post", for example. Not so with 107.3, which is slower, old-line AOR sounding, with lots of blues and classic rock.

Gorman and Sanders were music fans and broadcast innovators, who never did anything by the book. Their WMMS (1975-1986) was not a typical AOR and their WMJI (1991-2000) was not a typical "Oldies" station. Both stations were wildly successful during these periods, achieving each station's all-time ratings records which still stand today.

Had Metropolis Broadcasting (the people who bought WGCL and made it WNCX) did not run out of money, the WNCX rock/CHR format would have probably taken hold. When the February monthies came out (sadly, after the format change to "Classic Hits") it was revealed that the WNCX Rock-CHR format was #2 24-54 in afternoon drive, and top three 25-54 in a couple of other time periods. Pretty impressive turnaround for a station (WGCL) which had a very poor 25+ showing as a standard CHR the last year or so.

Speaking of that: WGCL, in their final years, did have a big cume.....BUT....their quarter hour performance was substandard. In other words, they were a button on everyone's radio, but people didn't stay tuned long. Add that to the fact that almost all of their audience was under 18 or 20 yrs of age, and it was a deadly combination. Their ad revenue was in the tank.

This is all pretty much documented in various books, and by personal questions by yours truly to both Gorman and Sanders at various live events.

 

[HHH]

Whoops, slip of the fingers.

First sentence should read: "The original Gorman-Sanders WNCX (October 1986-February 1987)....." Not 1989. That's how fast Metropolis "Broadcasting" (you'll pardon the expression) ran out of money and put the station back up for sale!

 

[OhioMediaWatch]

where the radio antenna for 96.5, 98.1 to help these stations get better ratings from cleveland. it this is so, it was a good idea for clear channel.

98.1 isn't designed to get "better ratings from Cleveland", though its coverage up there has certainly improved since the move to Bellaire Lane (former Northampton Township, now in Cuyahoga Falls city limits, mailing address Peninsula!).

The goal was to strengthen the signal in Akron and Summit County. As a result of the move to the former 96.5 site, 98.1 has at least as good a signal (if not better) as the old 96.5 did in the Cleveland market.

But of course, when CC steered 96.5 into the Cleveland cluster from Akron, they had to move it AWAY from Bellaire Lane, north into the southern reaches of Brecksville, to make it a decent full-market Cleveland FM.

 

[SonoSational18]

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"The original Gorman-Sanders WNCX (October 1986-February 1989) was NOT "a trainwreck of an AOR", as you say. It was an early, groundbreaking "Rock/CHR".....a format which emerged about a year later in LA, NY, etc to some pretty impressive numbers."

You'll have to give me some specific call letters here. I'm not aware of any successful Rock/CHR hybrid formats that debuted in either New York or LA in the mid-to-late '80's. The rock/CHR hybrid actually had its genesis in 1966 at New York's WOR-FM. When Bill Drake came in a year later to comsult, Scott Muni and Rosco walked across the street and esentially invented the AOR (then known as progressive or underground) format at WNEW-FM. The rock/Chr hybrid made a comeback in 1970 at WCBS-FM but was ditched for the oldies format in 1972. Cleveland briefly had hybrid station circa 1973 with WNCR, and the format hybrid format also appeared briefly in Cincinnati at WKRQ in 1973. Circa 1978, WZZP started leaning in that direction under PD Beau Raines before flipping to AC in 1979 (IIRC). About the same time the format debuted on WXGT (92X) in Columbus and had some moderate success. So.... the WNCX crew really didn't re-invent that wheel. I will defend my position that the format was musically a train-wreck.

"You compare the original WNCX to the current 107.3. Not much in common. The original WNCX had a considerable "pop" element, to the point where they had a Saturday night dance club show. The original WNCX was far more upbeat and brighter, with considerable imaging and production. They used to "walk up the music and hit the post", for example. Not so with 107.3, which is slower, old-line AOR sounding, with lots of blues and classic rock."
I will concede that the original WNCX was a bit more upbeat than the current WNWV but still not what I would call a traditional CHR presentation. It was obvious that they were trying to out-MMS MMS but as you or one of the other poster said, they lacked the resources to pull it off.

"Gorman and Sanders were music fans and broadcast innovators, who never did anything by the book."
I'll also concede that point.

Their WMMS (1975-1986) was not a typical AOR and their WMJI (1991-2000) was not a typical "Oldies" station. Both stations were wildly successful during these periods, achieving each station's all-time ratings records which still stand today.
I'll again agree with you re WMMS. In the case of WMJI, they had a couple of false starts and it took them several years to hit their stride.


"Had Metropolis Broadcasting (the people who bought WGCL and made it WNCX) did not run out of money, the WNCX rock/CHR format would have probably taken hold. When the February monthies came out (sadly, after the format change to "Classic Hits") it was revealed that the WNCX Rock-CHR format was #2 24-54 in afternoon drive, and top three 25-54 in a couple of other time periods. Pretty impressive turnaround for a station (WGCL) which had a very poor 25+ showing as a standard CHR the last year or so."
The format would have had a better chance if Metropolis didn't run out of cash and if their founder didn't die, but IMHO the format was still poorly conceived and would still have been a second-banana to WMMS. As for the "February monthlies", monthlies of the day didn't mean anything, and they wobbled wildly.

"Speaking of that: WGCL, in their final years, did have a big cume.....BUT....their quarter hour performance was substandard. In other words, they were a button on everyone's radio, but people didn't stay tuned long. Add that to the fact that almost all of their audience was under 18 or 20 yrs of age, and it was a deadly combination. Their ad revenue was in the tank."
They had the cume, they needed to convert it. They shold have done it by tightening up the music and improving the presentation. 1986 was in the heyday of CHR and could and should have succeeded. As for the claim that "almost all" of WGCL's numbers were teens, not so. There was a significant percentage, but same with WMMS.

 

[HHH]

"The original Gorman-Sanders WNCX (October 1986-February 1989) was NOT "a trainwreck of an AOR", as you say. It was an early, groundbreaking "Rock/CHR".....a format which emerged about a year later in LA, NY, etc to some pretty impressive numbers."

You'll have to give me some specific call letters here. I'm not aware of any successful Rock/CHR hybrid formats that debuted in either New York or LA in the mid-to-late '80's.

WAPP New York adopted a rock/CHR approach a few months later, and they evolved into a rhythmic/CHR, and eventually WQHT. Z100 New York rocked up quite a bit in this period, as did WXKS in Boston. It was very common to hear a lot of "rockin'" Top 40s around that time (late 80s).


The rock/CHR hybrid actually had its genesis in 1966 at New York's WOR-FM. When Bill Drake came in a year later to comsult, Scott Muni and Rosco walked across the street and esentially invented the AOR (then known as progressive or underground) format at WNEW-FM. The rock/Chr hybrid made a comeback in 1970 at WCBS-FM but was ditched for the oldies format in 1972. Cleveland briefly had hybrid station circa 1973 with WNCR, and the format hybrid format also appeared briefly in Cincinnati at WKRQ in 1973. Circa 1978, WZZP started leaning in that direction under PD Beau Raines before flipping to AC in 1979 (IIRC). About the same time the format debuted on WXGT (92X) in Columbus and had some moderate success. So.... the WNCX crew really didn't re-invent that wheel. I will defend my position that the format was musically a train-wreck.

Well, to each his own, I suppose. But do you consider all the other Rock/CHR examples "train wrecks", too? Kiss in Boston was very close to the original WNCX a year or so later, and they were a big hit. Nobody ever mentioned the term "train wreck" about their music. I suppose when you play a variety of music, some people think it is a "train wreck" because you are crossing genres. I remember listening to WIXY and hearing Lulu "To Sir With Love" right into James Brown into Steppenwolf! Nobody ever thought of calling WIXY a "train wreck".

"You compare the original WNCX to the current 107.3. Not much in common. The original WNCX had a considerable "pop" element, to the point where they had a Saturday night dance club show. The original WNCX was far more upbeat and brighter, with considerable imaging and production. They used to "walk up the music and hit the post", for example. Not so with 107.3, which is slower, old-line AOR sounding, with lots of blues and classic rock."
I will concede that the original WNCX was a bit more upbeat than the current WNWV but still not what I would call a traditional CHR presentation.

It was never meant to be a traditional CHR. It was a Rock/CHR with rhythmic overtones, which might have eventually evolved into something else, but this is how they started.


It was obvious that they were trying to out-MMS MMS but as you or one of the other poster said, they lacked the resources to pull it off.

No, they seemed to be trying to go the next step. WMMS counterprogrammed with more Classic Rock and less new stuff, while WNCX was taking the lead in new music. They had more new music on the playlist than WMMS did at the time

"Gorman and Sanders were music fans and broadcast innovators, who never did anything by the book."
I'll also concede that point.

Their WMMS (1975-1986) was not a typical AOR and their WMJI (1991-2000) was not a typical "Oldies" station. Both stations were wildly successful during these periods, achieving each station's all-time ratings records which still stand today.
I'll again agree with you re WMMS. In the case of WMJI, they had a couple of false starts and it took them several years to hit their stride.

Yes, but the station hit its stride and solidified when Gorman took over. Later Sanders stepped in the PD chair. During this period the station was full of life, remotes and a great playlist of rotated, high-testers mixed with enough spice to keep the station interesting and fresh. They won their first Marconi Award at the time for Large Market Station (not "Oldies Station"....the big award) and had sky high ratings. I think those guys knew what they were doing.


"Had Metropolis Broadcasting (the people who bought WGCL and made it WNCX) did not run out of money, the WNCX rock/CHR format would have probably taken hold. When the February monthies came out (sadly, after the format change to "Classic Hits") it was revealed that the WNCX Rock-CHR format was #2 24-54 in afternoon drive, and top three 25-54 in a couple of other time periods. Pretty impressive turnaround for a station (WGCL) which had a very poor 25+ showing as a standard CHR the last year or so."
The format would have had a better chance if Metropolis didn't run out of cash and if their founder didn't die, but IMHO the format was still poorly conceived and would still have been a second-banana to WMMS. As for the "February monthlies", monthlies of the day didn't mean anything, and they wobbled wildly.

Well, sure, but the station was on the air for a little over 90 days before Metropolis ran out of money, pulled the plug, cut staff and put the station back up for sale because they were broke. They had no time to tweak, market, embellish or anything. As I said, both those guys just came off a big hit, and went from NCX to another big hit with MJI. Seems unlikely they didn't have some strategy here. But, we'll never know.

"Speaking of that: WGCL, in their final years, did have a big cume.....BUT....their quarter hour performance was substandard. In other words, they were a button on everyone's radio, but people didn't stay tuned long. Add that to the fact that almost all of their audience was under 18 or 20 yrs of age, and it was a deadly combination. Their ad revenue was in the tank."
They had the cume, they needed to convert it. They shold have done it by tightening up the music and improving the presentation. 1986 was in the heyday of CHR and could and should have succeeded. As for the claim that "almost all" of WGCL's numbers were teens, not so. There was a significant percentage, but same with WMMS.

Not true at all. WGCL was #1 teen 12-17, and WMMS was #2 12-17. But WMMS was also #18-34 and first 25-54 men. WGCL, at the time, didn't have much over 18, and what they did have was women on the low side. They got creamed for women buys by WMJI, WDOK and 106.5 who had much better female bang for the buck. You see, WGCL had some of their lowest 18+ in years at the time. The billing was in the tank. Trust me....nobody blows up a profitable format. They were trapped. I suppose someone could have made them a better, traditional CHR, but they were up against WMMS on one side (a rock station with a pop sensibility at the time) and MJI, 106.5 and WDOK on the other end. Tough spot.

Anyway, this is all a million years ago, when passionate people used to program radio stations and attempt to make them unique and compelling with distinctive approaches and great on-air personalities. Pretty much gone today.

 

[Capulet]

geeeez

Reading this (and I only read 1/3) is like an ESPN 30-30 Special "The Station That Never Was".

 

[HHH]

geeeez

Reading this (and I only read 1/3) is like an ESPN 30-30 Special "The Station That Never Was".

I know! But it was pretty big news back in the day when shifts in radio actually made news. Some major, long-running WMMS players broke away to form their own station. What makes this interesting (to some anyway) is the wacky behavior of the owners, who pledged support and money, contracted some of the biggest names in the city and signed off on their strategy, then started to freak out almost from day one, not pay bills, and eventually fire just about everyone after only a few weeks and immediately put the station back up for sale! Crazy.

 

[Capulet]

geeeez

Reading this (and I only read 1/3) is like an ESPN 30-30 Special "The Station That Never Was".

I know! But it was pretty big news back in the day when shifts in radio actually made news. Some major, long-running WMMS players broke away to form their own station. What makes this interesting (to some anyway) is the wacky behavior of the owners, who pledged support and money, contracted some of the biggest names in the city and signed off on their strategy, then started to freak out almost from day one, not pay bills, and eventually fire just about everyone after only a few weeks and immediately put the station back up for sale! Crazy.

You're right. Not very interesting.

How many millions did Milton Maltz spend on advertising every year?
Now THAT would be interesting to know! I mean, look at all the old TV advertisements on You Tube. TV costs a fortune!

 

[HHH]

geeeez

Reading this (and I only read 1/3) is like an ESPN 30-30 Special "The Station That Never Was".

I know! But it was pretty big news back in the day when shifts in radio actually made news. Some major, long-running WMMS players broke away to form their own station. What makes this interesting (to some anyway) is the wacky behavior of the owners, who pledged support and money, contracted some of the biggest names in the city and signed off on their strategy, then started to freak out almost from day one, not pay bills, and eventually fire just about everyone after only a few weeks and immediately put the station back up for sale! Crazy.

You're right. Not very interesting.

How many millions did Milton Maltz spend on advertising every year?
Now THAT would be interesting to know! I mean, look at all the old TV advertisements on You Tube. TV costs a fortune!

They ran TV quite a bit in the final few years of the "classic staff", but a lot of it was trade, and they only ran during key ratings periods on key shows. I don't think they ever spent "millions". The cartoon commercials were created in-house (!) by David Helton, and most of the video stuff was, I think, home-brew, too. This in itself is pretty remarkable, because today an agency does everything for very big bucks.

 

[Capulet]

The Birthday Game was an expensive investment. That agency made a bundle selling that nationally. WMMS hopped on that gimmick. That one cost some money. One of the old time ad execs told me that back then the Malrite corporate thinking was ( paraphrasing here ) " if we have to spend a 1/2 million for advertising to assure us a few more ratings points, we'll do it because we'll make it back in revenue ". That when radio was fun.

Thats how lots the big time market leading stations worked back then. They were not afraid to spend money to advertise thier stations to insure the sales guys had numbers to sell.

Of course, radio stopped being like that back in the early 90s.........first dereg & duopolies..........then the telecom bill. The owners that got stuck holding licenses they paid too much for could only think " how do I spend less ? " instead of " how to invest in our product " with TV advertising, billboards, etc.

 

[musicman44]

i like when radio station change format. having the internet lets me listen to alot of radio station. east tennessee knoxville radio is one bad markets ever since woki i-100 left in 1992. you have 93.1 94.3 95.7 96.7 97.5 98.7 99.1 100.3 102.1 103.5 104.5 105.3 106.1 106.7 - same as 95.7 and 107.7. the stations that play music play the same 70 songs over and over of their music format. dj on each station that dont care about the station they are on plus the same 70 songs on their music format = boring.

 

[nightfly61]

It was funny that WGCL was a younger based station, but Sunday nights at 10, Unckle Vic told the kids to get to bed because sex talk w/ he & "Dr. Loose Westheimer" was coming on. People used to drive down & sit out front of the 15th & Chester studios to watch Uncle Vic & sometimes Mugarushi in the studio.
I recall one night when "Jammin'"Jimmy Hart on 98 called up BLF on the air & pranked him & put the call on the air. This was after 'MMS started the whole Morning Zoo thing & Mr. Leonard.

 

[musicman44]

thank you for the good memory about uncle vick on wgcl. i listen to him every sunday night and laugh and laugh.