Not to mention, the people who run these stupid stations are probably not interested in giving up. I don't see how they can actually believe that their station has any following. Nobody cares, nobody will ever care.
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New LPFM radio station approved in Mukilteo on 100.3
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Not to mention, the people who run these stupid stations are probably not interested in giving up. I don't see how they can actually believe that their station has any following. Nobody cares, nobody will ever care.
Will it get any worst on the FM Band anywhere?
Will it get worse? Probably. I might have to go to the extreme of moving to the COL of the stations i want to listen to...
As has been pointed out before, DXers have a different view of the FM (and AM) radio service than your average local listeners, or the FCC. In a way, I share some of the frustrations expressed here, as I used to enjoy taking the boombox up to Issaquah hill and hearing CBUF come in in clear stereo.
But on the other hand, I think that it's a matter of a bigger population increasing demand for more radio services, and to expect the FCC to disallow an LPFM just because a handful of people (like us DXers) can't hear the CBC in stereo in Seattle is a bit unrealistic.
I'm sure the FCC couldn't care less whether someone in Seattle can hear CBU on FM. Or a station from Victoria, for that matter. It's the Seattle market. That's undoubtedly how they see it. Seattle is not part of the Canadian market.
The fact is, there is a lot of desire for people to place signals on the air, and limited spectrum. Maybe that Slavic station in Mukilteo actually will indeed serve a community of Russian and Ukrainian people -- they're all over the metro area. They only have some brokered shows here on KKNW, but that's about it. And there are other populations that are probably also underserved.
The ultimate solution to the problem would be DAB. Send the commercial stations to a new DAB band, and leave the FM band (and eventually maybe the AM band also -- which is a different animal because of nightly skywave) for lower power, local radio.
But on the other hand, I think that it's a matter of a bigger population increasing demand for more radio services, and to expect the FCC to disallow an LPFM just because a handful of people (like us DXers) can't hear the CBC in stereo in Seattle is a bit unrealistic.
I'm sure the FCC couldn't care less whether someone in Seattle can hear CBU on FM. Or a station from Victoria, for that matter. It's the Seattle market. That's undoubtedly how they see it. Seattle is not part of the Canadian market.
The fact is, there is a lot of desire for people to place signals on the air, and limited spectrum. Maybe that Slavic station in Mukilteo actually will indeed serve a community of Russian and Ukrainian people -- they're all over the metro area. They only have some brokered shows here on KKNW, but that's about it. And there are other populations that are probably also underserved.
The ultimate solution to the problem would be DAB. Send the commercial stations to a new DAB band, and leave the FM band (and eventually maybe the AM band also -- which is a different animal because of nightly skywave) for lower power, local radio.
I was talking to a friend of mine the other day, and she mentioned how cool it would be to have a radio station at her church (that would supposedly play christian pop and rap for the community). Now, I am positive that the only people who would touch this station are people who belong to the church youth group, but nevertheless, i'm sure they could obtain a LPFM if they REALLY wanted to make this dream into reality.
I understand that people want to serve their community. However, its not possible for all of these people to all have LPFM radio stations and not destroy the current FM landscape. It feels as if the people who run these LPFM stations have an unrealistic view of who actually is going to listen. Alluding back to the example of my friend's church, wouldn't it be awful to lose yet another bonus coverage signal to supply a group of 13-20 year old's with C-rap?
I understand that people want to serve their community. However, its not possible for all of these people to all have LPFM radio stations and not destroy the current FM landscape. It feels as if the people who run these LPFM stations have an unrealistic view of who actually is going to listen. Alluding back to the example of my friend's church, wouldn't it be awful to lose yet another bonus coverage signal to supply a group of 13-20 year old's with C-rap?
Actually, I disagree about 99.7. KLMY, along with the other coastal signals are non-existant there, and on the G8 I didn't have any problem getting KISW down there. On top of that, the 97.7 signal is actually not that great in that area. That's kind of odd being as the 99.3 signal was fine. I agree about KACS though, when I was in Centralia a couple months ago, there was no difference between 90.5 and 102.3 in terms of reception.
I just looked up the format of KZTB. I can hounestly say I would much rather listen to that.
Pardon me for being off topic, but why does the KYYR format even exist? I never was much for the programming on KCMS 105.3, but I think it would be a lot more enjoyable than Christian Rap.
Supposed to cater to a "teenage" and "younger-skewing" audience. If I want to listen to Christian stuff I tune into either KYPL or KYKV, our K-Love station. I like contemporary Christian music, not rap or rock. I suppose Radio U is still on 89.1 over there, and I did not like that format either. Heavy metal about God? Seriously.
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-crainbebo
The only time I ever listened to contemporary christian (KCMS) is when I went out with this girl who was into that. She was into music like Toby Mac, Skillet, Hawk Nelson, I couldn't take it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TsL0DO-c1E
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07/07/14 - The FCC has granted an original construction permit to University of Washington, Bothell for a new low power FM station at Bothell. It will operate on 104.9 MHz with an ERP of 80 watts non-directional at -5.0 meters HAAT at 47° 45' 33.00", 122° 11' 27.00". FCC data
07/07/14 - The FCC has granted an original construction permit to University of Washington, Bothell for a new low power FM station at Bothell. It will operate on 104.9 MHz with an ERP of 80 watts non-directional at -5.0 meters HAAT at 47° 45' 33.00", 122° 11' 27.00". FCC data
Get up on higher hills and it will interfere with KKBW 104.9. These LPFMs have been coming in like flies lately. Thank god I don't live there anymore - it's become a DXers nightmare full of jesuscaster translators, IBOC on 47 channels, 90kw locals blocking many opportunities and all the new LPFMs to boot. I can tune to 96.5 here in Yakima and hear either a weak KJAQ, a weak KWLZ Warm Springs, a very weak KOZE Lewiston, static (!) or E-skip! Ah, what a relief...
-crainbebo
-crainbebo
Debating format choice or personal opinion about whether anyone listens to a station is a complete waste of bandwidth. Were we all on the same page, there would be, maybe, 3 stations, all playing variations of the same thing. DXing would be a lot of fun then, eh?
LPFM will likely be an irritant for awhile. The proponents have been all over this thing, figuring they'd offer the alternative that the big, bad, greedy corporate broadcasters would not.
The reality is that all of these LPs will have to survive on donations, subscriptions, volunteers and/or the personal finances of their Boards. Rents will need to be paid and the power company is not likely to be philanthropic. In many cases, other than maybe church-operated stations, keeping staffs together, Boards happy and finances coming in will turn out to be a complete nightmare. For many, this will get old very quickly.
The stations that run on a computer out of someone's closet will be cheaper to run, but will still require the attentions of their operators, all for little to nothing.
Yes, there will be exceptions, but I suspect those will be the fractional minority.
As has been noted, LPs will likely descend upon us like flies, but I suspect a lot of them will eventually die off. Expect to see CPs that aren't built and licenses that are off more than they're on.
A lot of people are about to get a real education.
LPFM will likely be an irritant for awhile. The proponents have been all over this thing, figuring they'd offer the alternative that the big, bad, greedy corporate broadcasters would not.
The reality is that all of these LPs will have to survive on donations, subscriptions, volunteers and/or the personal finances of their Boards. Rents will need to be paid and the power company is not likely to be philanthropic. In many cases, other than maybe church-operated stations, keeping staffs together, Boards happy and finances coming in will turn out to be a complete nightmare. For many, this will get old very quickly.
The stations that run on a computer out of someone's closet will be cheaper to run, but will still require the attentions of their operators, all for little to nothing.
Yes, there will be exceptions, but I suspect those will be the fractional minority.
As has been noted, LPs will likely descend upon us like flies, but I suspect a lot of them will eventually die off. Expect to see CPs that aren't built and licenses that are off more than they're on.
A lot of people are about to get a real education.
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How many of you think that this new LPFM @ 104.9 will simulcast KUOW? Does KUOW have holes in their coverage in Bothell? (I haven't driven through there lately to see.)
I think there should be a FCC policy that LP broadcast relay stations may not be established in the service contour. Really, it doesn't matter what site you are transmitting your signal from, there are going to be areas where the signal is poor. The city of Edmonds is the only city that comes to mind when I try to think of a municipality that actually should have any sort of broadcast relay.
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