Ford, while I agree with you somewhat, I think that this should be on a case by case basis. Yes I am a little surprised that no station has translators in downtown Edmonds, but a blanket no translators rule doesn't work either. I think the FCC needs to have someone driving around the country and determining whether every translator is necisary or not. If I understand correctly, the satilite exception for noncom translators was so that, say a community in southeastern Utah needs an NPR outlet, so the station in Salt Lake City could decide to put a translator there. Therefore, it should be an official policy that satilite fed translators should be in the same state as the originating station. If KOPB wanted a translator in Klamath Falls, they could still feed it via satilite but they would have to feed a translator in Longview off the air.