A simulcast of classic country/oldies KXKW 105.3 from Simesport. Also carried on KLWB's .2 subchannel with weather maps. As best I can tell there is no visual carrier on NTSC Ch6.
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New LPTV Channel 6 (87.7) Radio Station in Lafayette
- Thread starter Fieldtech1
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They need to have a visual carrier to be legal.
Apparently Delta is moving one of their class A TV station's from channel 21 to Channel 6 with a construction permit at 225 watts and will try to boost up to 3KW with an application at around 284 meters up (call is KXKW-CA formally KLFT-LP)
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=33177
What's funny is this is what about 3 year or so of radio station on TV signal going to last, as the FCC is already in planning stages to take everyone digital or off the air completely in the near future
Apparently Delta is moving one of their class A TV station's from channel 21 to Channel 6 with a construction permit at 225 watts and will try to boost up to 3KW with an application at around 284 meters up (call is KXKW-CA formally KLFT-LP)
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=33177
What's funny is this is what about 3 year or so of radio station on TV signal going to last, as the FCC is already in planning stages to take everyone digital or off the air completely in the near future
RFLA said:They need to have a visual carrier to be legal.
Apparently Delta is moving one of their class A TV station's from channel 21 to Channel 6 with a construction permit at 225 watts and will try to boost up to 3KW with an application at around 284 meters up (call is KXKW-CA formally KLFT-LP)
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?list=0&facid=33177
What's funny is this is what about 3 year or so of radio station on TV signal going to last, as the FCC is already in planning stages to take everyone digital or off the air completely in the near future
Speaking of KLWB 50.1 and 50.2, Delta might want to put some audio on there. There's no sound at all on the CW feed and the KXKW-CA audio on 50.2 is very very low.
RFLA said:...the FCC is already in planning stages to take everyone digital or off the air completely in the near future...
Actually, they carry traffic and weather on their LPTV side.
Please define “FCC planning stages,” in reference to taking non-digital stations off the air. Did you hear a rumor, read it in an article, talked to someone at the FCC, or just imagined it?
none of my tvs will lock onto ntsc ch6, and with an old analog dial tune portable i can hear KXKW audio but see no video. I see the weather slides you refer to on 50.2.
Fran said:Please define “FCC planning stages,” in reference to taking non-digital stations off the air. Did you hear a rumor, read it in an article, talked to someone at the FCC, or just imagined it?
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/DTVandLPTV.html
Basically the community groups, as well as the state of Alaska basically told the FCC that they couldn't afford to switch the number of translators and low power tv stations right now. If I remember, the state of Alaska has something like close to 100 tv LPTV licenses (Not sure if it would be considered translators as they basically have a set schedule over a few different tv stations of what they air in the remote villages) and they don't want to spend the money currently
Basically some stations that didn't make the major station DTV switch, are currently off the air until either they flip to DTV or the license is cancelled such as Equity Media Holdings....The LPTVs run at way shorter cash flow and sometimes on used equipment and those will be the stations I find that will be major hit if the FCC mandates complete analog shutoff
The article that you linked said, . . . the June 12, 2009 deadline for ending analog broadcasts does not apply to low-power, Class A, and TV translator stations, . Inside the industry it is believed that the FCC will never force LPTV stations to go digital. Even those who disagree say we are looking at least 10 years down the road, or longer.
Remember, our gov't made billions selling the analogue signals (bandwidth). . . no such money is available in making LPs switch to digital. . . the cash incentive to force LPs to switch, isn't there.
Remember, our gov't made billions selling the analogue signals (bandwidth). . . no such money is available in making LPs switch to digital. . . the cash incentive to force LPs to switch, isn't there.
We've done 12 years if I remember between idea and reality for full power stations. Personally my guess is they (The FCC) will really start pushing it when the number of stations come up and growing pains start to happen in the big cities . Biggest problem is LPTV, unless it's on cable, normally is not seen there. (I linked to the article as the FCC had said they were looking at it in the future)
Major push for the full channel stations was so Nextel and Public safety could have some more room to breathe..
But the FCC surprises me at times, and with some of the LPTV stations going digital by themselves, wonder when influence will be shoved (The FCC has been policy shoved by many manufacturers before) and you will see the LPTVs wake up to digital or bust, as too many analog tv stations lost coverage ground by going digital, and the ramifications ain't being accurately seen yet IMO
Major push for the full channel stations was so Nextel and Public safety could have some more room to breathe..
But the FCC surprises me at times, and with some of the LPTV stations going digital by themselves, wonder when influence will be shoved (The FCC has been policy shoved by many manufacturers before) and you will see the LPTVs wake up to digital or bust, as too many analog tv stations lost coverage ground by going digital, and the ramifications ain't being accurately seen yet IMO
I believe your 12 year recollection is spot on. Hard to say how analogue LPTV stations will do in this environment. Even though less than 12% of the population watch over-the-air TV, LP stations [overall] made hundreds of millions of dollars for TBN, Daystar and others (including Hispanic broadcasters). Many of those groups took their earnings and purchased full power TV stations (ala TBN and their recent $60M Orlando purchase).
As far as 87.7FM, I am guessing that if the FCC were to make a policy change, they would grandfather in the existing 87.7 stations. . . at least that has been their tendency in years past. Whether or not that grandfather status would apply in the event of a sale. . . .not able to guess that far down the line! I cite Clear Channel (and others) that have grandfather status on owning too many stations in the market, but are not able to pass it on to their buyer(s).
As far as 87.7FM, I am guessing that if the FCC were to make a policy change, they would grandfather in the existing 87.7 stations. . . at least that has been their tendency in years past. Whether or not that grandfather status would apply in the event of a sale. . . .not able to guess that far down the line! I cite Clear Channel (and others) that have grandfather status on owning too many stations in the market, but are not able to pass it on to their buyer(s).
The only reason this station can actually be built is due to analog shutoff.
Looking on the FCC website, it required stations in New Orleans and Beaumont to go off the air (On Channel 6) and KALB in Alexandria (formerly channel 5, now broadcasting on UHF 35 but virtual 5) to go off the air.
I made my comment as I think there will be many LPDTV stations or at least some re broadcasters on analog to help fill in what the FCC screwed up on, on digital.
Also I think, we may want to watch for loopholes to the digital rule come into play soon. One full power DTV station in New Orleans has been rebroadcasting on a analog LPTV for a few years and last I looked, it's still on.. So I'm kind of wondering if we will see this with small outfits hooking up with a source of programming (from full power dtv stations) and revenue for a paper for ownership only.
Looking on the FCC website, it required stations in New Orleans and Beaumont to go off the air (On Channel 6) and KALB in Alexandria (formerly channel 5, now broadcasting on UHF 35 but virtual 5) to go off the air.
I made my comment as I think there will be many LPDTV stations or at least some re broadcasters on analog to help fill in what the FCC screwed up on, on digital.
Also I think, we may want to watch for loopholes to the digital rule come into play soon. One full power DTV station in New Orleans has been rebroadcasting on a analog LPTV for a few years and last I looked, it's still on.. So I'm kind of wondering if we will see this with small outfits hooking up with a source of programming (from full power dtv stations) and revenue for a paper for ownership only.
Fran said:I believe your 12 year recollection is spot on. Hard to say how analogue LPTV stations will do in this environment. Even though less than 12% of the population watch over-the-air TV, LP stations [overall] made hundreds of millions of dollars for TBN, Daystar and others (including Hispanic broadcasters). Many of those groups took their earnings and purchased full power TV stations (ala TBN and their recent $60M Orlando purchase).
It is difficult for me to see analog LPTVs lasting anywhere near 12 years even without the FCC doing anything. Viewers with converter boxes are not going to disconnect their boxes or go into pass-through mode to watch low-power stations. These stations will convert or die.
As far as 87.7FM, I am guessing that if the FCC were to make a policy change, they would grandfather in the existing 87.7 stations. . . at least that has been their tendency in years past. Whether or not that
I can't see them treating channel 6 LPTVs any differently from those on any other channel.
Fran said:Viewers with converter boxes are not going to disconnect their boxes or go into pass-through mode to watch low-power stations. These stations will convert or die.
Not making a statement here. . . just asking a question. What about viewers with digital TVs that watch TV over-the-air? Can't their TVs also pick up analog signals? If that is the case, I don't see why LP owners would go to the expense to go digital. Understood that analog LPs would be giving up converter-box viewers. I read that the recession is creating more over-the-air viewers. . . . if so, this could be a boom time for LPs.
One of the problems is unless people know about the LPTVs, They become hidden from most viewers as W9WI said as for instance in my area, I can catch a few LPTVs but need the highly directional outside antenna for them (My rabbit ears I have on a back bedroom TV for the hurricanes only picks up the major stations).
Yes the new TVs will scan analog and digital, however most people still have TVs built before 2007 when it was mandantory to include DTV and on top of that, many of the DTV equipment forces you to flip between analog and digital (I have a VCR/DVD burner combo from 2008 that forced you to do that).. People on this board are highly educated, the same can't be said of people sometimes. I still hear from people who didn't understand the fuss on the flip cause they still caught the locals like before on cable tv
(and the reason why Cable companies like Charter did a sneaky ad campaign about switching to cable before the screen goes dark (alluding to the DTV switch) never mentioning the one time purchase DTV boxes)
But actually I'm waiting on the FCC to step in and halt all of these Channel 6 LPTV stations soon. Too many now using the radio station/tv Frequency loopholes (5 years ago, I heard of only 2, now there are something like 6 major markets where it's being done)
Yes the new TVs will scan analog and digital, however most people still have TVs built before 2007 when it was mandantory to include DTV and on top of that, many of the DTV equipment forces you to flip between analog and digital (I have a VCR/DVD burner combo from 2008 that forced you to do that).. People on this board are highly educated, the same can't be said of people sometimes. I still hear from people who didn't understand the fuss on the flip cause they still caught the locals like before on cable tv
(and the reason why Cable companies like Charter did a sneaky ad campaign about switching to cable before the screen goes dark (alluding to the DTV switch) never mentioning the one time purchase DTV boxes)
But actually I'm waiting on the FCC to step in and halt all of these Channel 6 LPTV stations soon. Too many now using the radio station/tv Frequency loopholes (5 years ago, I heard of only 2, now there are something like 6 major markets where it's being done)
RFLA said:But actually I'm waiting on the FCC to step in and halt all of these Channel 6 LPTV stations . . .
Because there are now a number of 87.7FMs I believe the 87.7 owners could successfully challenge a new ruling that intruded with their operation. At worst, their challenge that could drag on for years in the courts and likely end up with a grandfather result.
As far as LPTVs going digital or staying analogue: I hooked up an antenna to my satellite system and had it scan for local stations. . . . I now have a couple new channels that I did not have before (mostly religion). I am not sure if I am picking up LPTV stations that are analog or digital. Question, if I can pick up both analog and digital, why would an LP owner want the expense of going digital? My TVs are all fairly new and capable of HD.
When analog nightlight terminates in BR on 6/27, KZUP & WBRL will terminate analogs and broadcast on DT 20 & 21 respectively. WBRL will be in HD. KADN will terminate their nightlight on 6/26.
La also has 22.1 Opelousas and KWKW 32.1, also on 50.2 and is 87.7 FM Lafayette/105.3 Simmesport.
Expect the FCC to continue approving apps from LPs wanting to join the rest of their competition. Not all converter boxes have analog pass through.
La also has 22.1 Opelousas and KWKW 32.1, also on 50.2 and is 87.7 FM Lafayette/105.3 Simmesport.
Expect the FCC to continue approving apps from LPs wanting to join the rest of their competition. Not all converter boxes have analog pass through.
Obviously that should be KXKW.Rex Tremendae said:KWKW 32.1
I heard that KLFT changed their calls recently to KXKW.
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