New night time AM Oldies station in the North East....

[Osama]

1580-CKDO, out of Oshawa, Ontario with a fairly wide playlist and a good night time signal, at least into
Upstate New York and New England. Apparently, CKDO just moved to 1580 from 1350, and boosted
their power to 10kw, 24/7. 10kw at that end of the dial creates great sky waves at night!!!

 

[RadioMan203]

Sounds like I'll have to break out the ol' DX box and see if I can get them.

 

[fred flintstone]

You guys would rather DX some station from Canada than get a perfect signal from satellite radio and/or the Internet.

Yahoo! generates a customized playlist for me, based on what I like. No wonder Internet listeners are going for the Internet music stations over the audio streams of terrestrial stations.

Music radio is dead. RIP. It had a good run but "the times they are a' changing."

 

[amfmsw]

Fred, ever the optomist! What happened that you've got such a positive outlook for Oldies radio? Did you lose your 45 rpm adapter as a child and couldn't play DJ?

Music Radio is alive, well and flourishing. Broadcast Oldies Radio is in transition. Some shortsighted execs killed the format in many cities, but it just proves their myopic ignorance of the facts. The boomers are still large and in charge. We grew up with Amplitude Modulation (although WE enjoyed it with full audio bandwidth). We want to hear OUR music, and we, as a general rule, don't care if it's bouncing around the ionisphere before it gets delivered to our ears. FM is great, streaming is fine, satellite / jukebox (no jocks) is sterile and boring. We, in general, tune to radio for companionship as well as entertainment. Most Boomers always will. Blanket statements that music radio, AM or FM, is dead are just plain uninformed.

 

[RadioMan203]

You guys would rather DX some station from Canada than get a perfect signal from satellite radio and/or the Internet.

I DX shortwave and medium wave stations as a hobby of sport all the time - so what's your point? Just because this happens to be a "music radio" station you make it sound like people are clamoring for the last Oldies radio signal on the planet! I have XM at home besides owning and operating a deep formatted oldies internet stream, so what are you driving at? Would it be any different if I decided to DX a station out of Sweden or Norway? Would it be any less of a DX challenge if the foreign station I DX'ed was a news/talk format? An Oldies format? A religious format?

Yahoo! generates a customized playlist for me, based on what I like. No wonder Internet listeners are going for the Internet music stations over the audio streams of terrestrial stations.

I'm fully aware of at least three sites that let listeners make their own custom playlists. Not too uncommon.

Music radio is dead. RIP. It had a good run but "the times they are a' changing."

True, and maybe so, but I'll bet you there are people who would debate that with what IBOC has to offer AM and FM broadcasters. Radio is going to have to change to survive and it's probably going to be community focus that will prove the biggest saving grace for terrestrial radio as we know it.

 

[fred flintstone]

Radio is repeating the mistake the railroads made when air transportation came along: The railroads thought they were in the train business and did not realize they were in the transportation business.
Same thing when Western Union thought it was in the telegraph business, not the communication business, and passed up a chance to acquire Bell's telephone patents (cheap).

Radio is not about technology.
It's about sound. It's about entertainment and information; about "music and the spoken word."
Radio has always resisted change.
The radio industry drove Major Armstrong to suicide to stop FM (new technology) and protect World War I era technology (AM).
Now it's trying to stop satellite and wireless Internet audio (coming soon).
And cheap shots like AMFMSW's (the name yells techno-geek) don't change facts. Times change. Technology changes. And broadcasters have their heads in the sand and are not getting with new technology - like the railroads and Western Union.

Remember, "getting there is half the fun." (A rail travel ad slogan on why you should take days rather than hours to get to your vacation destination).
Or "cold alone is not enough." (Ad for ice companies saying you should get an ice box instead of one of those new electric refrigarators.)

 

[amfmsw]

No cheap shots were intended. Just a line to make a smile, my attempt at humor. Please take it in the spirit it was offered.

Yes, broadcasting seems to have resisted change throughout the years, but mostly it was corporate greed at the helm, steering the industry. Broadcasters didn't resist Armstrong's FM, as much as RCA's Sarnoff was an obstructionist. Sarnoff fought FM to protect his investment in AM 50kw clear channels owned by his NBC.
He had corrupt FCC officials do everything to quash the FM growth. even to the point of having the Feds move the FM band from 45 Mhz to between Ch 6 & 7 at 88-108 mhz. He fought Bill Pailey at CBS for decades over the RCA color tv delivery system, knowing that NBC would lead the way with color programming to sell more at the RCA TV dealers. He stole Armstrong's Heterodyne patents. It's not always the "industry", it's sometimes greedy manufacturers and businessmen. Look at the AM Stereo disaster.

Music radio, terrestial commercial radio will continue to thrive, especially with digital delivery. Right now, "radios'" not resisting change, it's small operators strapped for cash that cannot afford to invest in IBOC/HD Radio yet. Oh, and I'm not really a techno-geek. Just a guy who loved radio since I was a kid.