I was listren to my radio and some what my radio pick up 107.7 FM playing spanish music a mixed of hip hop, spanish Pop, Merengue, Baladas, Bachata. It's on low power. Im getting alittle info that this low power station is coming from Perry Florida covers Taylor,Jefferson,Wakulla Counties. Im not sure if the singal makes it to Tallahassee or not. It's playing good spanish music at this point.
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New Spanish FM Radio Station hit the airwaves in north florida
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Interesting... it sure is East.
When you look at Google Maps streetview of the supposed tower site, the tower is no where to be seen. Just a neighborhood.
When you look at Google Maps streetview of the supposed tower site, the tower is no where to be seen. Just a neighborhood.
According to the CDBS database, HISPANIC TARGET MEDIA, INC. owns several stations and has several more CPs for stations, all west of the Mississippi, except for Perry Florida and an unbuilt CP in VA. They probably applied for all "K" call signs for their stations and the FCC just failed to notice that this one was in "W" territory. Eventually, the FCC will notice and make them change calls. Either that, or it signals a major shift at the FCC call-sign division.
In addition to the new C3 FM on 107.7 at Perry, Florida, the community has an existing licensed class A FM (WNFK) operating on 92.1 (previously 105.5) and two pending applications for a third class A FM authorized for 93.5. An engineering friend of mine petitioned the FCC to allott the 93.5 frequency to Perry about 10-years ago. The new site restricted 107.7 C3 was allotted shortly thereafter as a result of a petition filed by Al Brooks from Valdosta, Georgia who, at the time, owned a class C2 on 107.9 in that community.
Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
www.jmtillery.com
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Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
www.jmtillery.com
[email protected]
fwillis said:
FWILLIS,
Thanks for the correction. I don't know how I missed that. I see now that 93.5 have the call letters WFDZ assigned and is owned by Dockins Telecommunications, Inc. along with a class D translator on 95.3.
WPRY was once co-owned with WNFK and was sold to Power Country, Inc. based in Lake City sometime ago. It's now Taylor County Broadasting, Inc. with the same owners as the previous Power Country, Inc.
What is the format on 93.5? Obviously I haven't listened...
Thanks...
Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
www.jmtillery.com
[email protected]
Thank you for the info... I looked for a website for the station, but, apparently, they don't have one, yet. The AM had a website www.wpry.com at one time, but that one appears to be down or maybe deleted... Thanks again...
Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
www.jmtillery.com
http://jmtillery.blogspot.com
[email protected]
Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
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http://jmtillery.blogspot.com
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Mark,
Is this (the new 93.5) the reason why WOGK was recently downgraded from Class C to Class C0?
As an aside, I hate to see further encroachment to WOGK's coverage...which was nothing short of amazing 15 years ago.
Is this (the new 93.5) the reason why WOGK was recently downgraded from Class C to Class C0?
As an aside, I hate to see further encroachment to WOGK's coverage...which was nothing short of amazing 15 years ago.
The new 93.5 Perry was assigned in 1998, long before WOGK was downgraded from a C to a C0. At that time the first adjacent class A met minimum seperation requirements for a first adjacent class C. The reason WOGK was downgraded is because of a new co-channel on 93.7 in Georgia, near Brunswick. Originally the Georgia FM was "dropped-in" as a new class A and fit fine with WOGK remaining as a full C. The downgrade happened because the Georgia co-channel wanted to upgrade from an "A" to a "C3" which required WOGK to downgrade to a C0 to make it work based on current FCC FM seperation requirements.
WOGK has operated from a 1,347 foot tower since 1987 which met full C requirements in the '80s. However, the FCC created a newer class C0 a few years ago. The mimimum antenna height for a full C is now just shy of 1,500 feet which means WOGK would have had to increase its antenna by a few 100 feet to meet the new C requirements. WOGK did look into building a new tower. However, due to the short distance to a private airport that is within only a few miles of the WOGK tower site, the FAA would not authorize any new tower structures taller than the existing 1,347 foot tower.
My understanding is that WOGK was unable to locate an alternative tower site that would afford a taller tower meeting new C minimum antenna height requirements. Hence, WOGK was downgraded to a CO to allow the Goergia station to upgrade to a C3.
When the new C0 class was authorized, stations operating below 1,500 feet were not automatically downgraded. Had it not been for the Georgia station applying for a class upgrade, WOGK would have remained a full C although it was operating with an antenna under 1,500 feet.
Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
Online: www.jmtillery.com
Blog: http://jmtillery.blogspot.com
E-mail: [email protected]
WOGK has operated from a 1,347 foot tower since 1987 which met full C requirements in the '80s. However, the FCC created a newer class C0 a few years ago. The mimimum antenna height for a full C is now just shy of 1,500 feet which means WOGK would have had to increase its antenna by a few 100 feet to meet the new C requirements. WOGK did look into building a new tower. However, due to the short distance to a private airport that is within only a few miles of the WOGK tower site, the FAA would not authorize any new tower structures taller than the existing 1,347 foot tower.
My understanding is that WOGK was unable to locate an alternative tower site that would afford a taller tower meeting new C minimum antenna height requirements. Hence, WOGK was downgraded to a CO to allow the Goergia station to upgrade to a C3.
When the new C0 class was authorized, stations operating below 1,500 feet were not automatically downgraded. Had it not been for the Georgia station applying for a class upgrade, WOGK would have remained a full C although it was operating with an antenna under 1,500 feet.
Mark Tillery
J. M. Tillery & Associates, P. A.
Online: www.jmtillery.com
Blog: http://jmtillery.blogspot.com
E-mail: [email protected]
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MN Maniac
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Thanks, Mark. I didn't know about the new 93.7 in Georgia. Not surprised, since the FCC seems bent on shoehorning in as many new allocations as they possibly can. There's also the (fairly) new 93.7 translator in Jacksonville. Only runs a few watts from the north side of town, if I remember correctly (?) So, 93.7 is now a nasty mess of WOGK and the translator throughout much of the Jacksonville metro. As is 103.7 with WRUF and the eastside translator fighting for the frequency. Neither of these should have been allowed. Sad business.
I'm surprised Dix never tried to move WOGK into Orlando...or sold it to someone who would have. Before Vero Beach moved from 93.5 to 93.7, it would have been possible to operate from either Orange City or Paisley and still put the required grade of signal over Ocala.
I'm surprised Dix never tried to move WOGK into Orlando...or sold it to someone who would have. Before Vero Beach moved from 93.5 to 93.7, it would have been possible to operate from either Orange City or Paisley and still put the required grade of signal over Ocala.
MN Maniac said:
Translators are not allowed to cause interference to any licensed radio station, even if outside of that station's coverage area. If anyone in Jax complained about either 93.7 or 103.7, the translator owners would have to either find a solution that worked for the listener, or would have to sign the translator off. Since both translators are operating, evidently no one has complained about interference to WRUF or WOGK.
WOGK still gets out very well even with their downgrade. I am a regular traveler up and down I-75 and I have always depended on that station to carry me for a long time. I have always been able to pick them up just north of Tampa and carry them all the way to the FL/GA border. In fact I just did so last month. The coverage was about the same on the return trip south.
It does not appear that they lost too much coverage with the downgrade. I too would hate to see their signal eroded any further as they are a great station.
It does not appear that they lost too much coverage with the downgrade. I too would hate to see their signal eroded any further as they are a great station.
MN Maniac said:
I thought about the very same thing years ago about moving, what was then the WFUZ-FM 93.7 Ocala tower to a location suitable to place a primary signal over Daytona Beach and Orlando. As you stated Paisly or Orange City would be perfect locations to occomplish that objective, identifying as WFUZ Ocala - Daytona Beach -Orlando.
The problem is, even with Vero Beach still on 93.5 as a class A, the best WFUZ/WOGK could have done is move somewhere near Leesburg and downgrade to a C1 because of short-spacing issues. And downgrading would have, for the most part, defeated the whole purpose behind moving to Orlando although such a move as a full C would have tremendously increased the station value of, what was then, WFUZ.
Also, as Kmagrill has stated, all translators AND LPFM are licensed as a "secondary" radio service, meaning LPFM and translators are not protected by primary licensed stations. To put it another way, all primary service FM stations such as WOGK have the "right of way" over translators and LPFM even if the primary licensed stations begins operation after the translator or LPFM. I believe there is a PRM at the FCC to change LPFM licensed stations from "secondary" status to "Primary" or some variation thereof allowing the LPFM more protection than they currently have.
In Ocala there was a 57 watt translator operating on 99.3 which had been in operation for years. When WXRA-FM 99.3 Inglis began broadcast operations last year from a tower location just North of Dunnellon, the Ocala translator - W257BA - unable to find an alternate channel to move, was forced to cease broadcast operations because the translator on 99.3 was causing interference with the WXRA co-channel 60dbu contour.
That's basically the "long and short" of it... I hope that helps explain the situation a little better.
Mark Tillery
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Kmagrill said:
From what I understand, there *were* complaints regarding the 103.7 translator in Atlantic Beach. The FCC ordered the translator off the air, but the translator's owners ignored the orders. The FCC then failed to take action to force them off the air. I was living in Orlando at the time and remember reading about this as well as hearing the story on a local 2-meter ham net.
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