My apologies for going off topic, how do you think Howard would do in 2023? Would media consolidation have crippled his show on terrestrial?
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New York Metro Radio Ratings: June 2023
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The station still drew good male numbers and billed $30 million at the time of the flip. I actually didn’t understand why 97.1 needed to flip back then
He benefited from media consolidation. He got paid very well, owned stock in CBS, and they syndicated his show to their other stations. His leaving was about reuniting with the man he called The Zen Master. It was a good move for him.
If he's getting the numbers nationally that make SiriusXM comfortable paying him so much to keep him off terrestrial, then he must still be relevant in his home market. So he'd do well, but probably would be uncomfortable keeping his mouth in check after all these years of verbal freedom. And since no New York station would pay him what SXM is paying him to produce three shows a week (no shows a week during his frequent vacations), he'll be staying at SiriusXM.
Howard would have died in PPM. My calculation in LA is that he would have gained no cume, and lost at least half of the TSL, becoming the 9th or 10th morning show.
That’s about as likely as Howard Stern is to come back to FM.
I think AAA would work commercially in NYC.
Of course you do
As has been said, that's basically the format at WFUV, and you can see how well it does.
It's a 55+ format. Does not work commercially.
I won't be responded to in such a way.
Of course you won't.
What BigA is articulating is that this is the umpteenth time you and another poster have brought up bringing back alt rock/modern rock/creating a commercial AAA station in NYC. It's not fun to rehash the same conversation every other month.
WFUV is a non-formatted station. Much of the music can be classified as AAA, but they play many genres of music.
It's also not fun to disrespect others. I have not disrespected anyone nor do I deserve to be treated that way. I am sure you would agree.
I realize that The Peak, WXPK 107.1 is a suburban station. But it would be interesting to know if it bills reasonably well. It has been AAA for nearly 20 years. It carries ads mostly for local businesses.
Telling the truth is not disrespectful. WFUV is AAA, and they get a .7 share.
Everybody thinks that what they like personally would be a great radio format for NYC. Until they see the facts.
An all-jazz station should work in NYC. But WBGO does all jazz and gets a .8 share.
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And that is the "uniqueness" of AAA as it often includes a variety of genres, the most common being one referred to as the ambiguous "Americana".
For a far suburban station, it bills adequately... averaging around or just over $2 million a year for the last decade.
It's around 19th overall in the Hudson Valley market, but well below that in 25-54. So it is hampered a bit by a very old audience.
It seems ironic that The Peak and WFUV, both of which are said to have mostly
older listeners, are among the very few in the area playing contemporary rock songs.
Meanwhile, classic rock stations such as Q104.3, which play music going back to The Beatles, have a younger audience.
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