No Point To HD Signal If Radio Is Lousy!

[radiopilot]

It's amazing that this 'national' radio board has only 3 HD listeners in support of HD radio... R.F. Burns, Mike Walker, and our chief engineer EasyPeazy, and perhap one more if you include DavidEduardo.... THAT"S IT!

Where are the other so called 'millions' of HD listeners as they suggest? Surely there has got to be more than 100 or so Radio-Info members listening to HD radio on these boards that can chime in and hold their stead with these HD afficionados... where are they or do they need to be recruited to sponsor their senseless rhetoric?

They have seen all the posts form different voices having NOTHING to do with earning a living at HD and all the posts and links to contradict their findings YET they continue to rant on, they have been given REAL LAB tests of HD nise and how to even cancel the noise if the receiver has that option, YET they deny HD causes noise?


Radiopilot

 

[SUPERCASTER]

Quite a problem, isn't it? What to do about the 'Analog Radio Problem'?

800 million? Conservative. It's long and well noted there exist 5 - 10 sets per household.

Don't HD cheerleaders know that a TV set is an appliance, but radio is personal? Why not?

Customers won't appreciate TeamBLOC rendering their analog sets worthless.

What auto maker would sell cars by telling you to junk your vintage car?

Why does TeamBLOC believe rules apply solely to others, and never them?

How will BunHD solve the "Analog Problem"?

Dr. Paul Vincent Zecchiino
Manasota Key, Florida
21 March, 2007

I guesss you can store them in the closet along with the millions of VCR's (try finding super VHS or Beta tape today) and all those old turntables (Try finding new vinyl records or a stylus at any play other than a specialty store) and from the 1900's until 1948 we only had 78 RPM machines and within 10 years there were no more 78 records being made for the mass market or how about those milions of tube type electronics for which tubes are no longer available or cassettes, another technology who's time has gone or how about those old 8 track cartridge machines. Yea this has NEVER happened before.

Not with 800 million radios.
Perhaps we could designate the FCC office a land fill, and start a massive air drop! ;D

 

[radiopilot]

Quite a problem, isn't it? What to do about the 'Analog Radio Problem'?

800 million? Conservative. It's long and well noted there exist 5 - 10 sets per household.

Don't HD cheerleaders know that a TV set is an appliance, but radio is personal? Why not?

Customers won't appreciate TeamBLOC rendering their analog sets worthless.

What auto maker would sell cars by telling you to junk your vintage car?

Why does TeamBLOC believe rules apply solely to others, and never them?

How will BunHD solve the "Analog Problem"?

Dr. Paul Vincent Zecchiino
Manasota Key, Florida
21 March, 2007

I guesss you can store them in the closet along with the millions of VCR's (try finding super VHS or Beta tape today) and all those old turntables (Try finding new vinyl records or a stylus at any play other than a specialty store) and from the 1900's until 1948 we only had 78 RPM machines and within 10 years there were no more 78 records being made for the mass market or how about those milions of tube type electronics for which tubes are no longer available or cassettes, another technology who's time has gone or how about those old 8 track cartridge machines. Yea this has NEVER happened before.

Not with 800 million radios.
Perhaps we could designate the FCC office a land fill, and start a massive air drop! ;D

There is a big exponential difference between going from phonographs to 8 track tapes, from 8 track tapes to cassttes, from cassettes to CD, from VHS tapes to DVD... so going from anolog to HD is not a radically new exponential step because in the minds and receivers of the average listener tuning in they can't tell there's been a technological leap... this is WHY the so called 'on air talent' must every hour and on the half hour is stressing the importance of the listeners getting an HD radio so they can listen to the new sound coming from the new HD broadcasts... but to the average consumer tuning in... they shrug their shoulders because the 'content' is not worth them going to the retailers to buy that new equipment when they can just as easily listen to the lousy content now on the existing radio with $0.00 costs.

So who is going to be throwing their radio away... the people who bought $1000.00 Denons, or the people who bought $2000.00 Sansuii's or Onkyo's... Haha...


I think the landfill will be filled with Sangeans, Boston Acoustics, Accurians, and plenty of HD digital transmitters.....

Radiopilot

 

[kc8kfg]

HD radio would be great if:

1) The CC stations in my market (Cincinnati/Dayton) didn't compress their audio streams to the point where it sounds like their 20k online stream. When the analog signal sounds better, why should I invest $$$ in a radio?

2) The digital signal is extremely prone to interference from adjacent channels and multipath. Especially multipath. With all the hills around Cincy, even though almost all of the stations are at 900ft+ HAAT, the signal is not 100% dependable more than 10 miles from the transmitter.

3) The idea of multicasting is great, but when the digital signal drops out, I lose the audio completely. On the primary channels, I can at least automatically fall back onto the analog signal. So all these great new subchannels are good for about a 10 mile radius from Finneytown or Mt. Adams, and then spotty for another 40 miles or so. I can get analog 94.9 or 93.3 to the Tenessee border on a good day.

4) The primary HD channels are the SAME thing we're hearing already, with the same heaping of annoying commercials. (another topic: if i'm listening to an AAA station, why not have commercials with jingles, etc. appealing to that audience?)

However, I do like being able to have the title/artist in full on my dash instead of the scrolling RDS, resembling the way my iPod shows up on my stereo head. I'm just waiting for some of the better stations in town to get on board.

 

[moderator7]

Some posts in this topic have been moved to Take It Outside.

http://www.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=66694.0