Now that it has been 2 weeks almost what do you all think of the new wlrs?

[hotpatrick2004]

I think it is a lot better at least the format makes sense not my thing but maybe it will find an audience but it will be a uphill battle with 105.1 being signally challenged.

But they did the whole flip half ass why did they not stunt why???This town has done some funny stunting over the years at the very least makes you want to see what the next format is. When rock 102 flipped to mix 102 they had automated countdown clock"new year bring new radio station to 102.3 fm".

Also when qmf sold to clear channel and they took over from otting broadcasting with the format an hour wondering what to flip qmf to very funny. When magic 100 flipped to djx they played an hour of christmas carols and when mix 102 went to lrs they played i am the walrus for quite awhile.

And on top of that the same call letters that also makes no sense who cares how long they have been around who cares!!!New jocks get some new blood in there. Get joe and diesel off the air forever!!!Skinny j is decent but not in the mornings.Not a good morning jock. Now i am no expert on this subject but i thought mainline knew what they were doing. They seem to with there flip of z-93 to the fly in dayton but they seem not to know what there doing with 105.1 but on a more positive note i think the format is fine and may find a niche who knows time will tell i wish them well.

Did George Lindsey ahve much to do with the new format i wonder?

Thats all HotP out

P.S. I am no longer a LRS Hater ;D still won't listen much though

 

[RealTime]

There's a new "Walrus" radio station in San Diego. Cool Walrus logo too. Too bad the Walrus is gone from LRS.

 

[indydood]

the music mix actually sounded better the first couple of days................though I didn't think it was exactly that great then.

No signal, no $ to market it. it's another one of those *who cares?* things at this point. Stunting would not have helped a bit. stunting only works when you have something totally unique and different as the payoff. this ain't that.

and, goober had very little to do with this. it was all imported from corporate which may explain why it was better the first 72 hours than now

 

[Dan76]

I like it quite a bit.

 

[radiohawkins]

I like it quite a bit.

Me too.

 

[hotpatrick2004]

Indydood you made me laugh calling george goober.How come you don't care for george? But you are right it is obvious they do not care for 105.1 at all they are just trying to see if they can salvage whats left of it.

 

[Craven707]

I don't think it's very unique from a programming perspective. But, as a listener, I enjoy listening to it for the most part.

 

[radiogeek40208]

I don't think it's very unique from a programming perspective. But, as a listener, I enjoy listening to it for the most part.

There's nothing unique about it -- it's a format that is done is several markets! Another consultant based cookie cutter thing

 

[hotpatrick2004]

Radiogeek40208 that is all we have here in the ville is consultant based cookie cutter formats. Louie is prime example a very boring variety hits station.A good variety hits station is jack fm in los angeles. Aside from 91.9 and 88.1 thats it everyone else the suits have the power.

 

[indydood]

Radiogeek40208 that is all we have here in the ville is consultant based cookie cutter formats. Louie is prime example a very boring variety hits station.A good variety hits station is jack fm in los angeles. Aside from 91.9 and 88.1 thats it everyone else the suits have the power.

WLUE is consistently rated higher here than Jack is in LA.

What's *boring* to a bunch of board-ops may not be *boring* to listeners who are probably tired of being hollered at every place on the dial. Where is it written that all the stations should be high personality? There's a station in Orlando, Florida 98.9 WMMO I've heard many times on vacation. First time I heard them, I thought "wow these guys are nothing special" but found myself listening to them every time I am through that area because the music is so damn good and there aren't many interruptions. If you look them up in the ratings, they do consistently well, too. Which is the whole idea.

This whole obsession with *consultants* and *suits* almost always screams frustrated part-time board-op. The truth is, few radio stations have consultants anymore, especially CBS and CC because Randy Michaels got rid of almost all *consultants* years ago.

 

[hotpatrick2004]

I know louie does well in the ratings i am not talking about that i am talking about froma musical stand point they are boring not bad just boring

Cmon louie does not play a good variety of tunes. From the 80s it is the same ole burnt out top tier hits.I know thats what people like in this town the tried and true so why not play the same old same old? They rarely if ever play a oh wow tune. LRS is at least now more interesting to listen to then louie.If i had to sit in an office all day give either djx or fpk or kiss or the max or the fox.

Now why indydood do you not care for george?

 

[indydood]

I know louie does well in the ratings i am not talking about that i am talking about froma musical stand point they are boring not bad just boring

Cmon louie does not play a good variety of tunes. From the 80s it is the same ole burnt out top tier hits.I know thats what people like in this town the tried and true so why not play the same old same old? They rarely if ever play a oh wow tune. LRS is at least now more interesting to listen to then louie.If i had to sit in an office all day give either djx or fpk or kiss or the max or the fox.

Now why indydood do you not care for george?

but doing well in the ratings is the whole idea. who cares if radio message board posters think a station is good or bad, boring or exciting? I thought that's supposed to be up to the listeners, who vote with their ratings. And listeners don't care what critics think, only what they like or don't like. What is an *oh wow* tune to them might be totally unfamiliar and foreign to them- something that they say *WOW* to might be a same song you've heard a billion times cuz yer in the biz. And they don't know, don't care what radio people like/don't like. It doesn't impact their life or their thinking. That's why I always laff when I see radio people, in one breath, talk about serving the public BUT in the next sentence they talk about things from a radio geek perspective.

as far as *george*, don't know him, never met him. Just saw him referred to as *goober* here before.

 

[hotpatrick2004]

I am not talking like totally obscure i know what the word variety hits mean i mean add like the missing persons song words every variety hits station i heard plays that it was a hit or play bizzare love triangle by new order or true faith or talk talk its my life or suzanne vega luka or blister in the sun by viloent femmes or david bowie blue jean or janet jackson black cat or madonna justify my love or madonna buring up or madonna angel or men at work overkill or culture club church of the poison mind rod stewart lost in you or you get my point all of these were hits some lesser known but they were all hits. Why not add some of them they are famaliar tuneage to people but god forbid they are not top ten.

 

[indydood]

I am not talking like totally obscure i know what the word variety hits mean i mean add like the missing persons song words every variety hits station i heard plays that it was a hit or play bizzare love triangle by new order or true faith or talk talk its my life or suzanne vega luka or blister in the sun by viloent femmes or david bowie blue jean or janet jackson black cat or madonna justify my love or madonna buring up or madonna angel or men at work overkill or culture club church of the poison mind rod stewart lost in you or you get my point all of these were hits some lesser known but they were all hits. Why not add some of them they are famaliar tuneage to people but god forbid they are not top ten.

all the songs you mention would be somewhat obscure for most RADIO LISTENERS. If you don't look at the jack stations but instead other variety hits that do consistently well...............they don't play these mid-charters. KPKX in Phoenix, WMMO Orlando, WARH St Louis, WLUE Louisville KBPA Austin are not supposed to be 80s stations anyway. And they all perform better than the Jack stations of the world. RADIO PEOPLE like Jack because they play obscure mid-charting tunes that radio geeks love to hear (cuz they've heard *the hits* too often). REGULAR PEOPLE have proven not to be huge fans of Jack stations. Check out their numbers. Pretty miserable.

Like I said, it's not about being acceptable to critics or radio folk but to normal, everyday listeners, audience that's measured by ratings. It's why Ron Paul would never win a national prez. election. there's a small group who LOVE LOVE LOVE his ideas and his maverick attitude but in everyday practical reality his ideas (despite great fund raising) didn't register with enough VOTERS who actually decide elections.

 

[hotpatrick2004]

Indydood you made good points and i agree somewhat but that is the whole reason terrestrial radio is not doing well overall. They do not think outside the box especially in this town. When this town does something cool on the airwaves they screw it up don't give it a chance or soemthing along those lines. Case and point she 93.1 excellent station but i here two different stories on that one is cc matthews just wanted to kill it out of spite but that is was doing well but then i here no they could not sell the format so they flipped it and wlrs use to be alt when it came back on the air in 2000 that lasted maybe two years and we use to have some liberal talkers in this town well lionel now gone.

Ed schultz and stephanie miller would do well in this town.

I know i know i am not mainstream when it comes to what i like on the airwaves and you are programming for the masses but still it is not fare at all.

CBS radio is pretty happy overall with how well there jack fm does in los angeles but there latest trend don't look to good.

 

[indydood]

Indydood you made good points and i agree somewhat but that is the whole reason terrestrial radio is not doing well overall. They do not think outside the box especially in this town. When this town does something cool on the airwaves they screw it up don't give it a chance or soemthing along those lines. Case and point she 93.1 excellent station but i here two different stories on that one is cc matthews just wanted to kill it out of spite but that is was doing well but then i here no they could not sell the format so they flipped it and wlrs use to be alt when it came back on the air in 2000 that lasted maybe two years and we use to have some liberal talkers in this town well lionel now gone.

Ed schultz and stephanie miller would do well in this town.

I know i know i am not mainstream when it comes to what i like on the airwaves and you are programming for the masses but still it is not fare at all.

CBS radio is pretty happy overall with how well there jack fm does in los angeles but there latest trend don't look to good.

I agree with you that *out-of-the-box* is a good thing. But how that's defined by you and I compared to normal, everyday listeners is quite different. To you and I WLUE may sound bland but to radio listeners who want a break from hollerin' DJs, stupid contests and incessant hype, they probably sound like a breath of fresh air to most. SHE 93.1 was never a very good performer, which is why they don't exist anymore. And, on the cc matthews thing.....................LOL what more needs to be said.

CBS isn't that happy with the Jacks, which is why some are d-o-n-e. Even the one here in Indiana (not owned by CBS) isn't even *Jack* anymore and for good reason. You'll see more leave the scene fairly soon, too (Baltimore may be next to croak).

I agree Ed Schulz and Stephanie Miller would do well in Louisville as would a station that had the stones to go progressive (but that can be said for a lot of stations & markets around the country too married to Rush-Haninity-Savage-etc)

 

[hotpatrick2004]

Don't get me wrong rush has his place in the world and is entertaining i loved it back in 1998 with monica was going on and he would mock james carville just to funny but i like hearing both points of view. What the hell people see in hannity is beyond me but he along with ryan seacrest have the added value of cross promotion(hannity and colmes and american idol)

And what is cc matthews thinking adding dennis miller???Indydood have you heard his show???I don't find it a good fit for 970 gtk at all.

But in los angeles jack fm was a logical progression there for what use to be arrow a classic rock station.

I was listening to some airchecks of a station on lkyradio.com on a chr called hit radio wjyl my god the jocks sound asleep nuttin like djx or kiss Bobby ellis was on there. His voice sounds the same today.

 

[indydood]

Don't get me wrong rush has his place in the world and is entertaining i loved it back in 1998 with monica was going on and he would mock james carville just to funny but i like hearing both points of view. What the hell people see in hannity is beyond me but he along with ryan seacrest have the added value of cross promotion(hannity and colmes and american idol)

And what is cc matthews thinking adding dennis miller???Indydood have you heard his show???I don't find it a good fit for 970 gtk at all.

But in los angeles jack fm was a logical progression there for what use to be arrow a classic rock station.

I was listening to some airchecks of a station on lkyradio.com on a chr called hit radio wjyl my god the jocks sound asleep nuttin like djx or kiss Bobby ellis was on there. His voice sounds the same today.

I don't think Dennis Miller has been funny since his monday night football failure. The TV version of his political show was cancelled. putting cc mathews and *thinking* in the same thought may not be the wisest of ideas LOL.

As far as Jack in LA, that's really the only one that's doing decent. Seriously, the group (just a handful) of stations I mentioned earlier are a pretty exclusive group of the V.H. stations that are doing really well. The rest are really NOT, most of them being Jacks. There are also some lame-o ripoffs of the concept in some smaller and medium markets and they all suck, mostly because they're attempting to imitate the Jacks of the world. If it doesn't work in NYC or Chicago, imitating it and putting it in Ft Wayne or Fresno won't work any better.

 

[hotpatrick2004]

indydood have you heard the sound in los angeles? What awell programmed triple a they are. So different then the triple a we have here in the ville which i also enjoy. Bonneville owns the sound in los angeles and the sound in cincinnati. The sound in cincinnati is a well programmed commercial alt station i think. I wish wlrs would have gone in either sound direction lol

 

[indydood]

indydood have you heard the sound in los angeles? What awell programmed triple a they are. So different then the triple a we have here in the ville which i also enjoy. Bonneville owns the sound in los angeles and the sound in cincinnati. The sound in cincinnati is a well programmed commercial alt station i think. I wish wlrs would have gone in either sound direction lol

Funny U ask about *The Sound* in LA..............I was there about 3 days after they launched. They sound good................the one in Cincy is OK but not great. AAA doesn't have a great track record in other than major markets, though. Look at WRLT in Nashville, very chic and all the critics love them but it's almost 100% music community who listens to them.

Part of the problem is that it's truly a niche format so it usually goes on a niche signal.