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Now would be a good time for 740 and 1050 to swap ownership and formats!

I can hear 740 down here in Tennessee very well, but 1050 is a struggle sometimes. We all know 740 is Canada's national frequency, and there needs to be something on 740 that listeners on both sides of the border would enjoy. Moving TSN Radio to 740 would mean those Jays, Leafs, and Raptors fans down in the "states" could get their fix, and there could be a "CHUM-type" music revival on 1050; it's basically 50's/60's/early 70's music being heard anyway...it would be a win-win situation...

Thoughts?
 
If both stations can be heard very well throughout the GTA, and with Toronto's teams heard on other stations in the region, I don't think they would switch just to please fans hundreds of miles away.
 
azumanga said:
If both stations can be heard very well throughout the GTA, and with Toronto's teams heard on other stations in the region, I don't think they would switch just to please fans hundreds of miles away.

Agreed! That's what the internet is for!
 
Dont take away the last clear channel AM that still plays music. I can pick 740 up during the day in Watertown, NY. Besides the owners are different so you'll probably never see it happen. People will chose online streaming over skywave these days.
 
spunker88 said:
Dont take away the last clear channel AM that still plays music. I can pick 740 up during the day in Watertown, NY. Besides the owners are different so you'll probably never see it happen. People will chose online streaming over skywave these days.

To your point about clear channel AMs playing music:

What you're saying is 650 WSM doesn't play music, or you just plain hate country music altogether!

Now as far as the signal issue is concerned:

860 would also be sort of an option, not too much static from the "Home of the Opry", but I think the Canadian government or the CFCC (actually known as the CRTC) controls that frequency. I don't see the CRTC or Stephen Harper taking away what is pretty much "French-Canadian NPR" from 860 anytime soon.
 
I forgot about 650 WSM. They once had a great nighttime signal even up where I am. But their signal is now filled with IBOC interference from WFAN 660. Apparently it has gotten so bad that I forgot about them.
 
spunker88 said:
I forgot about 650 WSM. They once had a great nighttime signal even up where I am. But their signal is now filled with IBOC interference from WFAN 660. Apparently it has gotten so bad that I forgot about them.

It's the opposite down here; I can only get 660 for like a couple of hours, somewhere between midnight and 2 AM Central.
 
soundsandsports said:
Now as far as the signal issue is concerned:

860 would also be sort of an option, not too much static from the "Home of the Opry", but I think the Canadian government or the CFCC (actually known as the CRTC) controls that frequency. I don't see the CRTC or Stephen Harper taking away what is pretty much "French-Canadian NPR" from 860 anytime soon.

There will be a Federal election on May 2...while anything can happen, I believe the CRTC will still be the same old CRTC.

Anyway, about 860, they did try testing 98.7 FM to try and move it to FM, but they decided it interferes too much with their own CBC radio 1 @ 99.1 FM, so they left it to be on AM.

How Carn radio figured a way to make things work without interference with the CBC, I honestly don't know.
They're not on the air yet, but soon they will be. (...so they say.)
 
"Anyway, about 860, they did try testing 98.7 FM to try and move it to FM, but they decided it interferes too much with their own CBC radio 1 @ 99.1 FM, so they left it to be on AM."

They no longer have to do that--there is an FM alternative open for SRC that didn't exist until last month.

Since the CRTC has just yanked the license of the college radio station in Toronto on 88.1, that channel is up for grabs. It could easily be granted to a CJBC-FM with a hefty signal as long as it nulled co-channel signals to the south in NY and PA with a well-configured DA...something it could do by nulling out Lake Ontario and pulling in the signal it sends toward Buffalo and Erie, PA (where no listenership would be lost in any event). Construct the antenna right, mount it on the CN Tower and you could have a 40 kW ERP class C1 signal over the entire city of Toronto and suburbs to the north. That's exactly where the listenership of CJBC (as small as it is according to BBM) now lives.

Now you've completed the move of CBC/SRC in eastern and central Canada to FM. That leaves 860 open. There, history takes over. The Canadian government got the 860 channel, which was originally assigned to CFRB under the 1941 NARBA agreement, after the war--it forced CFRB off its channel and made it take the lesser 1010 assignment with a DA-2. If that channel ever were to open through CJBC going to FM, by law CFRB has dibs, and would probably opt to make itself a 50kW-U, NDA operation on 860 from its current Mississauga site for maximum regional coverage, not to mention a better signal toward Hamilton and Niagara 24/7. Escaping the interference on the fringe from WINS would be a major bonus to such a move.

The last domino to fall would be 1010 WINS in New York, one of the two CBS-owned newsers in the Big Apple. It then takes over the 1010 channel completely east of the Rockies, gets re-classified as a Class A signal, and gets to build a single taller tower in the Jersey Marshes and feed its 50 kW equally over all the tri-state area and up the Hudson Valley just like its big corporate brother WCBS. Give 'em 22 minutes, they'll give you the world.

Net result? One more major market FM for SRC, one more monster interference-free Class A commercial AM signal for Toronto (this time a talker in addition to the full service oldies station next door on the dial), and one more monster CBS-owned Class A newser for New York. No one loses, SRC and CFRB get something they wanted, and CBS improves its service to New York in the bargain.
 
Bob1370 said:
Since the CRTC has just yanked the license of the college radio station in Toronto on 88.1, that channel is up for grabs. It could easily be granted to a CJBC-FM with a hefty signal as long as it nulled co-channel signals to the south in NY and PA with a well-configured DA...something it could do by nulling out Lake Ontario and pulling in the signal it sends toward Buffalo and Erie, PA (where no listenership would be lost in any event). Construct the antenna right, mount it on the CN Tower and you could have a 40 kW ERP class C1 signal over the entire city of Toronto and suburbs to the north. That's exactly where the listenership of CJBC (as small as it is according to BBM) now lives.

However, there is another 88.1 to the north of Toronto -- CFRH-FM, a francophone community station in Penetanguishene; right now, it's broadcasting at 4.493kw, but they have a CP to upgrade to 40kw.

Practically, any station on 88.1 in Toronto would either have to remain low-powered, or have a "figure-8" signal towards the southwest and northeast. And considering that CKLN broadcasted at 225 watts, I imagine the CRTC will likely entertain community broadcasters first before offering the frequency up for grabs to the big boys.
 
I don't view that 88.1 should go to CBC anything. I believe it should still be granted the privilege of maintaining Community radio status in new hands, just not Ryerson's hands. It's not the fault of the community that the station fell apart. In the right hands, it can be up and running properly once again.

Off the top of my head, I say University of Toronto should get a second station for Scarborough.
Now, if another college or University would like to step up to the plate, I say GO FOR IT!!!!
 
There are some other factors at play here, too: moving CJBC to the more limited 88.1 channel (it's also hemmed in by 88.3 in Kitchener and a few others) would result in a signal with far less coverage than the current 860 facility...which means that the CBC would either have to keep 860 going or supplement 88.1 with additional FMs in outlying areas, for which frequencies aren't really available.

Even if CJBC were somehow to give up 860 and CFRB were to move back there, it wouldn't be the boon for WINS that my colleague Dr. Smith thinks it would be. Canada would certainly continue to "internationally notify" its use of 1010, and the US doesn't have international treaty rights to operate a class A facility on 1010, which is what a 50 kW ND WINS would be.

A 50 kW ND WINS would also create impermissible interference to several other signals, including co-owned KDKA.

(Now...could CBS move the class A 1020 channel to New York City and make KDKA a class B signal on 1010 in Pittsburgh? We're deep into speculative territory here, but it's at least remotely feasible...)
 
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No good here in Connecticut.



740 now at nights is WNYH Huntington,NY. Can't hear the oldies anymore at night (CFZM) but just endless Korean. (or Spanish now ?)


Other Trivia. Seems they are back to no ID's. (WNYH)



I'm always picking on WNYH 740 as I'm chronically tired of the no-id foreign language stuff BUT they used to sign off at night. (so they were off !!)


NIGHTS=hours after sundown...


Oddly 1050 NYC ESPN is battling WSEN Baldwinsville, NY some nights.



I'm not a CFZM 740 fan as I'm not old enough where 50's stuff is my old favorite but just nice to hear music on AM.
 
shepaug said:
No good here in Connecticut.

740 now at nights is WNYH Huntington,NY. Can't hear the oldies anymore at night (CFZM) but just endless Korean. (or Spanish now ?)

Other Trivia. Seems they are back to no ID's. (WNYH)

According to FCC records, WNYH is a 25kw daytimer station, but is authorised to broadcast at night at 43 watts, which, in theory, should be too weak to reach Connecticut. If you're hearing them loud and clear in the middle of the night in Connecticut, they are likely breaking the law. Same goes for broadcasting without an hourly ID.

I wonder if it does any good to snitch to the FCC?
 
Yes..look at suggested coverage charts at that radio-locator site.

I should not even hear them in Connecticut but at that they cover up CFZM.


I did complain to FCC maybe a year ago about the 'no id'. Only reply was :: this is not under our jurisdiction...

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2010...

I spend time recording air-checks of radio stations at times and 740 WNYH for months nothing on the hour or close to the hour. I'd listen to them until sundown and sign-off but never an id for at least a couple hours until sign-off. (no id up to end and at end) I finally caught an English ID one afternoon after trying for a long time.

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If anybody was within range of this station..anybody ???? they would get a migraine




Days 25kw over salt water yapping yapping yapping...



BUT they used to sign off at night---



CFZM can be strong here and an under 50 watt station clobbering them ? Even the 50 watts is supposed to go southbound I think.



I'm no complainer and hear strange things all the time but WNYH 740 I think would stress about anybody out.
 
shepaug said:
I did complain to FCC maybe a year ago about the 'no id'. Only reply was :: this is not under our jurisdiction...

If it's an FCC rule, then it should be under FCC jurisdiction, unless they meant another division within the FCC.

Last time I checked, it's the FCC that assigns call letters and issues licenses.
 
azumanga said:
shepaug said:
I did complain to FCC maybe a year ago about the 'no id'. Only reply was :: this is not under our jurisdiction...

If it's an FCC rule, then it should be under FCC jurisdiction, unless they meant another division within the FCC.

Last time I checked, it's the FCC that assigns call letters and issues licenses.

It still makes the FCC worse than the CRTC. At least when the CRTC feels this way about something, they offer links to other websites or email adresses to redirect the conversation to.
 
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