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NY Times: Drobnys to buy/lease more stations

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From the New York Times:
<blockquote>Anita and Sheldon Drobny, two of the founders of Air America Radio, are taking the next step to ensure that liberal programming stays on the air: obtaining radio stations. Anita and Sheldon Drobny want to spread liberal talk radio by buying stations across the country. The couple has announced plans to begin buying or leasing radio stations across the United States through their new company, Nova M Radio ... read more - NY Times</blockquote>
Once again, too little, too late. The Drobnys should have done this 10 to 15 years ago, like Salem did. All the good radio real estate is taken. This rich tax accountant seem to think if you build it, they will come. Doesn't matter if you get a rim-shot class IV AM that does not reach most of the geographic market area. Doesn't matter if you don't do promotion. Just get a stick - any stick - and plug into the AAR satellite feed all day and get Arbitron shares to the right of the decimal point.
Second, these people have already demonstrated their profound ineptitude in the radio business. What in their management track-record with Air America Radio suggests an ability to run a group of stations? There is a reason why most station managers come from sales - not from accounting, investing or medicine.
Third, they've gotten involved with "Doctor" Mike Newcomb. What is it about these arrogant grade-grubbers who get into medical schools that calls them to wave their MDs in people's faces in contexts that have nothing to do with the practice of medicine? These over-paid body mechanics, who go through life getting their butts kissed by gullible patients, office flunkies and drug reps, start to delude themselves they know everything and can do everything. Listen to how uninformed some of them are when they start talking about diet and exercise - and that's actually related to what they are supposed to be doing. Newcomb tried to run for governor. How can one of these jerks think they can a government when they can't even manage a private practice? Newcomb is supposed to do a show from 6 to 9 am. I can picture from 6 am to 7:15 they will actually run a loop saying, "Doctor had an emergency and is running late this morning. Please wait." Maybe they will have a stack of old magazines for the board op to read on the air until "doctor" shows up. (Same applies to Dean, Frist and any others that don't come immediately to mind).
 
Maybe he shouldn't be the GM of a radio station, but he's not that bad of a guy. :)

And he did manage to pull a little better than a share when his original 7-9pm slot on 1010 was on the 250-watt pattern.
 
> Maybe he shouldn't be the GM of a radio station, but he's
> not that bad of a guy. :)
>
> And he did manage to pull a little better than a share when
> his original 7-9pm slot on 1010 was on the 250-watt pattern.
>
I have no reason to think he's a bad guy. But since he's not doing a medical advice show (like Dr. Dean Edell) or a psychological advice show (like Dr. Joy Brown), the use of "Dr" for a political talk host seems inappropriate and even pretentious.

Early evening is not morning drive. It's a different kind of talk show. And Goyette does have a track record in morning drive and the morning audience knows him.

Question: KRXA, Monterey now lists Newcomb in latenights (and no longer lists Doug Basham). Is he still syndicating an evening show (his prior time slot)? If so, is he doing a local show in the morning and a national show for syndication - or is the morning drive show actually a syndicated product (and not local in content)?
 
>
> Early evening is not morning drive. It's a different kind
> of talk show. And Goyette does have a track record in
> morning drive and the morning audience knows him.

Actually, he really doesn't. His tenure at KFYI was in afternoons, which I'd say is better suited for him. His morning experience comes from a brief stay at KFNX and a year or so at KXXT, both stations with fewer listeners that #1 talker KFYI. His fans followed him perhaps, but as we also saw with Liddy and Hill (to no one's surprise), plenty of people listen to KFYI for the station, not any particular host's minor variations.

> Question: KRXA, Monterey now lists Newcomb in latenights
> (and no longer lists Doug Basham). Is he still syndicating
> an evening show (his prior time slot)? If so, is he doing a
> local show in the morning and a national show for
> syndication - or is the morning drive show actually a
> syndicated product (and not local in content)?

I don't believe he's on KRXA; his weekend show should start relatively soon, though. They're probably going to be carrying that.
 
> I have no reason to think he's a bad guy. But since he's
> not doing a medical advice show (like Dr. Dean Edell) or a
> psychological advice show (like Dr. Joy Brown), the use of
> "Dr" for a political talk host seems inappropriate and even
> pretentious.

What does Mike Newcomb's day job have to do with his qualifications as talk show host. He dosen't mention his title on the home page of his website and rarely mentions his medical training in his show. Unlike Dr. Laura who flaunts her title on a psychological talk advise show. Even though her doctorate is in physiology not psychology.

Also, you state that you "no reason to think he's a bad guy" and then go on to launch this viscious attack on Newcomb.

"What is it about these arrogant grade-grubbers who get into medical schools that calls them to wave their MDs in people's faces in contexts that have nothing to do with the practice of medicine? These over-paid body mechanics, who go through life getting their butts kissed by gullible patients, office flunkies and drug reps, start to delude themselves they know everything and can do everything. Listen to how uninformed some of them are when they start talking about diet and exercise - and that's actually related to what they are supposed to be doing. Newcomb tried to run for governor. How can one of these jerks think they can a government when they can't even manage a private practice? Newcomb is supposed to do a show from 6 to 9 am. I can picture from 6 am to 7:15 they will actually run a loop saying, "Doctor had an emergency and is running late this morning. Please wait."

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>
> What does Mike Newcomb's day job have to do with his
> qualifications as talk show host. He dosen't mention his
> title on the home page of his website and rarely mentions
> his medical training in his show.
>

Absolutely nothing (say it again)! Eactly my point.

The "About Mike Newcomb" section of the website refers to him as "Dr. Mike Newcomb" in the initial reference and as "Dr. Newcomb" in all subsequent references, as does the KRXA website, press releases about the news station and almost all articles I have seen.

> Unlike Dr. Laura who
> flaunts her title on a psychological talk advise show. Even
> though her doctorate is in physiology not psychology.
>

I agree but that's a different topic. I mentioned Dr. Joy Browne and Dr. Dean Edell because they do advice shows and they do hold doctorates in disciplines relevant to the advice they offer. I did not mention Laura Schlesigner because she does not. If Newcomb does a medical advice or medical news show, I have no problem if he mentions his medical credentials.

> Also, you state that you "no reason to think he's a bad guy"
> and then go on to launch this viscious attack on Newcomb.
>

No, my "viscious" attack was on the medical profession.

Archie Bunker: "Let's hear if for the medical profession, little girl."
(Gesture of pulling a toilet flush chain. Sound of a raspberry.)
 
> The "About Mike Newcomb" section of the website refers to
> him as "Dr. Mike Newcomb" in the initial reference and as
> "Dr. Newcomb" in all subsequent references, as does the KRXA
> website, press releases about the news station and almost
> all articles I have seen.

I've seen just as many articles about Newcomb's show that don't refer to his medical background. But what's the big deal. Limbaugh talks about his background as a sports guy, Franken as a comedy writer, and Rhodes as Air Force mechanic. So Newcomb is a doc and he makes reference of this occassionally. What's the big deal? If he said that Bush needs his head examined, I guess that this would be going over the line.

I said,

Unlike Dr. Laura who flaunts her title on a psychological talk advise show. Even
though her doctorate is in physiology not psychology.

You replied,

> I agree but that's a different topic. I mentioned Dr. Joy
> Browne and Dr. Dean Edell because they do advice shows and
> they do hold doctorates in disciplines relevant to the
> advice they offer. I did not mention Laura Schlesigner
> because she does not.

?????????????????

Regarding my comment that you appeared to bashing Mike Newcomb because he is is a doctor, you said

> my "viscious" attack [was not on Dr. Newcomb, but] was on the medical profession.

Here's what you said. Your words not mine.

"They've gotten involved with "Doctor" Mike Newcomb. What is it about these arrogant grade-grubbers who get into medical schools that calls them to wave their MDs in people's faces in contexts that have nothing to do with the practice of medicine? These over-paid body mechanics, who go through life getting their butts kissed by gullible patients, office flunkies and drug reps, start to delude themselves they know everything and can do everything."
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>
> I've seen just as many articles about Newcomb's show that
> don't refer to his medical background. But what's the big
> deal. Limbaugh talks about his background as a sports guy,
> Franken as a comedy writer, and Rhodes as Air Force
> mechanic. So Newcomb is a doc and he makes reference of
> this occassionally. What's the big deal? If he said that
> Bush needs his head examined, I guess that this would be
> going over the line.
>

I have not seen anything referring to Randi as Sgt. Rhodes.

> I said, Unlike Dr. Laura who flaunts her title on a psychological
> talk advise show. Even though her doctorate is in physiology not psychology.
>
> You replied,
>
> > I agree but that's a different topic. I mentioned Dr. Joy
> > Browne and Dr. Dean Edell because they do advice shows and
> > they do hold doctorates in disciplines relevant to the
> > advice they offer. I did not mention Laura Schlesigner
> > because she does not.
>
> ?????????????????
>

What part of that is not clear to you? Edell has an MD and gives medical advice. Browne has a PhD in psychology and gives psychological advice. You bring in "Dr Laura," whom I did not mention because she does not hold a doctorate relevant to the content of her show. If she does a show on physiology, then calling herself Dr. Laura is relevant and appropriate; not that I'd be interested in listening. And Newcomb's MD is not relevant to the content of his show.

> Regarding my comment that you appeared to bashing Mike
> Newcomb because he is is a doctor, you said
> > my "viscious" attack [was not on Dr. Newcomb, but] was on
> the medical profession.
>
> Here's what you said. Your words not mine.
>
> "They've gotten involved with "Doctor" Mike Newcomb. What is
> it about these arrogant grade-grubbers who get into medical
> schools that calls them to wave their MDs in people's faces
> in contexts that have nothing to do with the practice of
> medicine? These over-paid body mechanics, who go through
> life getting their butts kissed by gullible patients, office
> flunkies and drug reps, start to delude themselves they know
> everything and can do everything."
>

And you will notice my use of the third person PLURAL pronoun throughout, making it clear I was talking about a group, not an individual.
 
> What does Mike Newcomb's day job have to do with his
> qualifications as talk show host. He dosen't mention his
> title on the home page of his website and rarely mentions
> his medical training in his show. Unlike Dr. Laura who
> flaunts her title on a psychological talk advise show. Even
> though her doctorate is in physiology not psychology.

Since when does Dr. Laura "flaunt" her doctorate? Besides, plenty of people with doctorates in divinity or some other field call themselves "Dr." in an implicative context.

And as for Newcomb, if you think he never mentions his medical credentials, your TSL must be about three minutes.

> "What is it about these arrogant grade-grubbers who get into
> medical schools that calls them to wave their MDs in
> people's faces in contexts that have nothing to do with the
> practice of medicine? These over-paid body mechanics, who go
> through life getting their butts kissed by gullible
> patients, office flunkies and drug reps, start to delude
> themselves they know everything and can do everything.
> Listen to how uninformed some of them are when they start
> talking about diet and exercise - and that's actually
> related to what they are supposed to be doing. Newcomb tried
> to run for governor. How can one of these jerks think they
> can a government when they can't even manage a private
> practice? Newcomb is supposed to do a show from 6 to 9 am. I
> can picture from 6 am to 7:15 they will actually run a loop
> saying, "Doctor had an emergency and is running late this
> morning. Please wait."

Perhaps a bit overzealous, but the coup caused by the folks now inhabiting KPHX is rather arrogant; for a guy who was buying time less than three years ago, he was offered a spot on another station but refused it because of a certain right-wing bombthrower.
 
> Since when does Dr. Laura "flaunt" her doctorate? Besides,
> plenty of people with doctorates in divinity or some other
> field call themselves "Dr." in an implicative context.
> And as for Newcomb, if you think he never mentions his
> medical credentials, your TSL must be about three minutes.

Okay I just visited Dr. Laura's and Dr. Newcomb's webpages.

Remember Dr. Laura has a phd in physiology and gives pyshological advice on her radio show to people who think that she's a shrink. Dr. Newcomb is a medical Dr. who expresses political opinions and does not give medical advise.

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Dr. Newcomb refers to his medical degree once

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His name is mentioned seven times without title "Dr." used

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> Okay I just visited Dr. Laura's and Dr. Newcomb's webpages.
>
> Remember Dr. Laura has a phd in physiology and gives
> pyshological advice on her radio show to people who think
> that she's a shrink. Dr. Newcomb is a medical Dr. who
> expresses political opinions and does not give medical
> advise.
>
> Dr. Laura refers to her degree as a "Dr." 19 times

Yes, because that's her on-air name, "Dr. Laura". Sure, she'll use her last name from time to time, but the show is based on her dispensing advice, not some random Jane Sixpack doing a political show where the "Dr." isn't important. Of course, she's still certified by California as a marriage and family counselor, so I wouldn't exactly say its like someone with a chemistry degree giving counseling.
 
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> course, she's still certified by California as a marriage
> and family counselor, so I wouldn't exactly say its like
> someone with a chemistry degree giving counseling.
>
The point is that her doctorate has NOTHING to do with counseling!
 
True. But the original point is Newcomb's doctorate has NOTHING to do with political talk.


> The point is that her doctorate has NOTHING to do with
> counseling!
>

While we are at, let us not forget the famous Dr. Frank Field (to whom Johnny Carson referred as "NBC's crack meteorologist"). Dr Frank was an optometrist. Of course, many those guys who do Accu-Weather in morning drive do have PhD's in meteorology and are on the meteorology faculty at Penn State. In contrast to those TV "meteorologists" who take a few online courses so they can get a certificate.
 
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