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October 2024 Bay Area Radio PPM Ratings

I can't disagree, but let's take this one step further. KDON has format competition from KEZR in San Jose, as well as KYLD, KMVQ, KIOI (and possibly one or two others) in San Francisco. KEZR is directly in the SJ submarket. If KDON was worried, it would be worried about the SJ station that puts a serviceable signal into their market, not the stations from SF that transmit from Sutro or San Bruno and never reach Salinas.

Also, I think the only station from the Monterey-Salinas market that has unique programming that's not duplicated in the SFBA is KPIG. If someone was going to go to the trouble of trying to pick up an out-of-market station, wouldn't it be KPIG, not a cookie-cutter format like KDON?

KEZR can’t be received well in Santa Cruz, or at least in the beach area. This may be due to local terrain.

As for your second paragraph, I’ll go a step farther: why try to pick up something out of market over the air when you can get its stream?
 
KEZR can’t be received well in Santa Cruz, or at least in the beach area. This may be due to local terrain.

As for your second paragraph, I’ll go a step farther: why try to pick up something out of market over the air when you can get its stream?
Yes, I believe you. But there are a number of San Jose stations that broadcast from Monument Peak in Fremont and aren't receivable in Santa Cruz, unlike stations whose transmitters are on Loma Prieta and are. (I was down there a couple of weeks back, and was getting little KKUP/91.5 as I was driving back, up Hwy 1 and then Hwy 17.)

You make a great point about streaming verses DXing, Mark. All I can say is, if I'm driving, I don't want to be fiddling with my phone. It's easy to change stations via the presets, or even the tuning dial, without ever taking your eyes off the road or your left hand off the wheel.
 
Yes, I believe you. But there are a number of San Jose stations that broadcast from Monument Peak in Fremont and aren't receivable in Santa Cruz, unlike stations whose transmitters are on Loma Prieta and are. (I was down there a couple of weeks back, and was getting little KKUP/91.5 as I was driving back, up Hwy 1 and then Hwy 17.)
91.5, 94.5, and 100.3 are what I'm getting from the San Jose market. Plus the 99.1 partner of the 98.9/99.1 simulcast. 94.5 has to contend with the KRML translator on 94.7, though.

What's really astonishing here, though, is on AM. KSCO's audio is severely distorted.
 
I can't disagree, but let's take this one step further. KDON has format competition from KEZR in San Jose, as well as KYLD, KMVQ, KIOI (and possibly one or two others) in San Francisco. KEZR is directly in the SJ submarket. If KDON was worried, it would be worried about the SJ station that puts a serviceable signal into their market, not the stations from SF that transmit from Sutro or San Bruno and never reach Salinas.

Also, I think the only station from the Monterey-Salinas market that has unique programming that's not duplicated in the SFBA is KPIG. If someone was going to go to the trouble of trying to pick up an out-of-market station, wouldn't it be KPIG, not a cookie-cutter format like KDON?
Correct, KPIG is the station I try to pick up. In the South Bay, I can get it with my Crane radio...but only in one part of the house...but it can be worth the trouble.
 
It looks like, for KEZR, they would. KEZR isn’t on Loma Prieta or Unumhum.
KEZR pumps out 42 KW from Coyote Peak in South SJ. Its a directional signal, and its 60 dBu makes it to Hollister and Prunedale (and going north, San Mateo and Half Moon Bay) but not Santa Cruz. (Though their 50 dBu hits Santa Cruz and Salinas, but just barely.) So the Santa Cruz mountains block a lot of their signal, because Santa Cruz is less than half the distance that Hollister is.
 
KEZR, KBAY, and KSJO faded out on HWY 17 when you pass Lexington Hills around Summit Road along the county line of Santa Clara and Santa Cruz county. You can still hear KEZR, KBAY, and KSJO in Santa Cruz, but the signal is so spotty in Santa Cruz area.
 
KEZR, KBAY, and KSJO faded out on HWY 17 when you pass Lexington Hills around Summit Road along the county line of Santa Clara and Santa Cruz county. You can still hear KEZR, KBAY, and KSJO in Santa Cruz, but the signal is so spotty in Santa Cruz area.
Where I was, KBAY was just fine; KEZR and KSJO were marginal. Luck of the draw, I suppose.

Santa Cruz itself has hilly terrain in some areas.

Regardless, Santa Cruz (+Monterey, +Salinas) is its own market. Being able to hear KDON in Oakland, which is what started this whole topographical expedition, is a neat party trick - it's actually quite possible many days when on the Warren Freeway - but is nothing to build a business model on. And, yes, the question was about San Jose, but the principle is the same.
 
As for KDON 102.5 their signal is shielded in San Jose due to Santa Cruz mountain blocking the signal. The signal gets better when you pass Fremont Ca. If iHeart Media wants to include 102.5 KDON in San Jose then they have to add a booster signal to the area because of the shielded terrain. As for 102.5 if you go further north you will hear a signal fight with 102.5 KSFM from Woodland/Sacramento and a share time Low Power FM broadcasting from Sutro Tower (KXSF-LP/KSFP-LP)
 
As for KDON 102.5 their signal is shielded in San Jose due to Santa Cruz mountain blocking the signal. The signal gets better when you pass Fremont Ca. If iHeart Media wants to include 102.5 KDON in San Jose then they have to add a booster signal to the area because of the shielded terrain. As for 102.5 if you go further north you will hear a signal fight with 102.5 KSFM from Woodland/Sacramento and a share time Low Power FM broadcasting from Sutro Tower (KXSF-LP/KSFP-LP)
I've never found the LPFM to be much of a factor. I could barely hear it in Emeryville last week, and this was while using a Qodosen DX-286 that's a superb FM performer. Note that its ERP is 2 watts. I haven't tried to pick it up in San Francisco proper, but between the hills and the office buildings, I bet it has a tough time in much of the city. At my former Oakland hills residence, KDON and KSFM often duked it out for supremacy in my driveway. Over in the Tri-Valley, KSFM was a pretty common pick-up.

The notion of KDON being any kind of a factor in San Jose radio listening is laughable.

By the way, KDON-HD2 is now doing children's radio from an iHeart channel devoted to that.
 
The 6+ share of 0.4, with a cume of over 124,000 for KGO, isn't too bad for a sports betting format. I imagine the syndicator providing those shows as well as Cumulus, must be pleased. And this is in California, a state that bans gambling on sports.
 
Here are the October 2024 San Francisco Radio PPM Ratings:


And the October 2024 San Jose Radio PPM Ratings:


Any thoughts or observations?
I'm really impressed with the ratings of Classical KDFC...
 
The 6+ share of 0.4, with a cume of over 124,000 for KGO, isn't too bad for a sports betting format. I imagine the syndicator providing those shows as well as Cumulus, must be pleased. And this is in California, a state that bans gambling on sports.
Can't one just use a VPN to mask that you're in California and make your bet that way?
 
KEXP/KEXC did a series of remote broadcasts with their Seattle DJs going to various record stores in the Bay Area last month for live broadcasts.

The very tech-savvy Reddit community has a significant amount of buzz regarding the KEXC expansion, people post their signal reports and praise the station.

Part of what grew KEXP's ratings performance that surprised people in Seattle, in my opinion, is that especially during the pandemic, KEXP really leaned in to the community and personal connection to the listeners, making their requests and thoughts a part of the show. It wasn't just the music, but it was connecting at a human level, and KEXP has been very successful with that, on air and in person. Most Seattle stations barely have a street presence, KEXP is highly visible at events that matter to their listeners and creating special programming that keeps them engaged.

I think they'll be just fine and continue to grow their local service to the Bay Area.
 
Most Seattle stations barely have a street presence, KEXP is highly visible at events that matter to their listeners and creating special programming that keeps them engaged.

To me, that's the difference between commercial & non-commercial radio. I expect at some point they'll host local music events, and that's where the outreach will take place.
 
To me, that's the difference between commercial & non-commercial radio. I expect at some point they'll host local music events, and that's where the outreach will take place.
They’re going to use KQED’s remodeled building to host concerts/live events.
 
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