OKAY....MAYBE A TRUE CHR IN ATLANTA WAS TOO MUCH TO ASK....

[Wildstyle K]

They should've just put WiLD on 96.1 from the get go. WiLD's numbers showed that they COULD have been successful, TWICE. But I guess it wasn't meant to happen. WiLD did ok but could only do so well with the signals they were on. On a signal like 96.1 I'm sure they would AT THE LEAST have been where Power 96.1 is now or even better.

And WiLD was more fun than Power.

But enough with all that - I originally signed in here to say that I think Ryan Seacrest should be removed, or at least not put back to back with Mami Chula. Whoever follows Mami Chula should at least be just as live, fun, and powerful.

 

[atlantaboy]

They should've just put WiLD on 96.1 from the get go. WiLD's numbers showed that they COULD have been successful, TWICE.

Wild was down to a 1.8 before they flipped to Alternative - that doesn't seem like they could've been successful to me

 

[Wildstyle K]

You missed my point.

I was not talking about the time when they were at a 1.8 at all, nor was I talking about any time after Power came into existence (and also wasn't talking about the time they messed WiLD up with the funny playlist where "airplanes" by BOB was playing 3 to 4 times an hour for a few weeks).

I was talking about the two times they were at a 3.7, which was before and after the whole "airplanes" and jacked up playlist fiasco (and how ironic! KZON just starts playing airplanes now  :-\).

 

[AJ JAM]

Boy do I miss the first Wild 96.7.....and now I have the chance to miss Wild 105.7 and 96.7 all over again Hey maybe in another 8 years or so...WILD will come back!!! Seems to be the trend....2021 hurry up!!!

 

[AJ JAM]

I meant for my previous post to be on the thread about Power 96.1 audio....but WyldStyle KDM I agree with you 10000% WILD should have definitely went to 96.1 and would've been a HUGE success!!! Also yess....get rid of Ryan Seacrest!!!!! I am sooo mad MAMI CHULA only gets a 2 hour shift......though I am happy she is on air....i wish she had a normal 4 hour shift....glad she resurrected her Mami Mix.....if it wasn't for her..i would NEVER listen to Power....why should/would I?? Power is an awful station..with so much potential

 

[atlantaboy]

I think you guys are suggesting that Power should go Rhythmic - the problem, as it's been for decades here in ATL, is that you can basically divide a line across ATL, south of which is mainly black, and north of which is mainly white - South of Atlanta large % of people listen to the 4 Urban stations, north of Atlanta, a large % of people listen to Q100, Star, B, and now maybe 105.7

I'm sure there's a population of single guys living in or near the city that want to hear tons of dance tracks on CHR, including those below the Top 20, but this group doesn't really fit in with the overall musical taste of either South or North ATL, which is why, time after time these attemps at rhythmic-leaning CHR repeatedly fail

If there was a huge Asian population, or huge overall Hispanic population, I think things would be different, and Power would be trending upward - but ATL is mainly a black and white city, with many advertisers either wanting to target one group of the other

 

[RadioDoogie]

Bottom line guys is if we loose Power, Q will never ever go full CHR as long as they are under the "Cloud." It really will be a repeat of 1992 where Power went away and Star went really close to full on CHR for about a year and went back to adult CHR. I think we all really want to keep Power here in the ATL and want it to succeed. Hopefully they are listening to our suggestions. Please fix the audio. Q's audio sounds phenomenal these days. Rich stereo and deep bass with a slight echo/hall effect. Power is sounding mono these days.

 

[atlantaboy]

^To put the format in perspective, though, Power is still doing well for a Rhythmic-leaning CHR - comparing straight share numbers, it's doing better than WODS/Boston, WNOW/New York, WMKS/Greensboro, WKSL/Raleigh, WPLW/Raleigh, WBBM/Chicago, or KKHH/Houston

Most of the Rhythmic-leaning CHRs that are doing better than Power are on the West Coast, where the Hispanic/Asian populations are extremely high

The other option for Clear Channel would be to take on Q100 straight-on with a faster-paced, more current-based mainstream CHR - but again, Cumulus has been testing that idea with 97.9, and very few people are listening to it

 

[electroboy73]

If there was a huge Asian population, or huge overall Hispanic population, I think things would be different, and Power would be trending upward - but ATL is mainly a black and white city, with many advertisers either wanting to target one group of the other

Have you ever been to Duluth?

 

[electroboy73]

The other option for Clear Channel would be to take on Q100 straight-on with a faster-paced, more current-based mainstream CHR - but again, Cumulus has been testing that idea with 97.9, and very few people are listening to it

I think that is EXACTLY what Power should do! If they went FULL ON mainstream, then ONE station....grabs audiences from nearly every competing station. Again, much like WAEV/Savannah, or WNOK/Columbia. Both which have a huge black population. And still play everything from Justin Bieber, Avril Lavigne, Imagine Dragons, Drake, Muse, Nicki Minaj, and even Mumford & Sons...all on one station.

 

[atlantaboy]

Again, much like WAEV/Savannah, or WNOK/Columbia. Both which have a huge black population. And still play everything from Justin Bieber, Avril Lavigne, Imagine Dragons, Drake, Muse, Nicki Minaj, and even Mumford & Sons...all on one station.

I'm assuming you do realize that Columbia SC has no Hot AC, Rhythmic, or Adult-Leaning CHR - same with Savannah (except for a low-rated HAC station that appears to be extremely conservative from their website)

Smaller market CHRs can play a wider variety of hits, but if you don't like what's on, remember that there aren't many other choices on the dial - which is why stations can play Drake and Imagine Dragons and not have to worry about people changing the station to a Rhythmic or a Hot AC

If Q100, Star, and possibly one of the Urbans disappeared, then Clear Channel would be in the position you're describing

 

[electroboy73]

Again,  much like WAEV/Savannah, or WNOK/Columbia. Both which have a huge black population. And still play everything from Justin Bieber, Avril Lavigne, Imagine Dragons, Drake, Muse, Nicki Minaj, and even Mumford & Sons...all on one station.

I'm assuming you do realize that Columbia SC has no Hot AC, Rhythmic, or Adult-Leaning CHR - same with Savannah (except for a low-rated HAC station that appears to be extremely conservative from their website)

Smaller market CHRs can play a wider variety of hits, but if you don't like what's on, remember that there aren't many other choices on the dial - which is why stations can play Drake and Imagine Dragons and not have to worry about people changing the station to a Rhythmic or a Hot AC

If Q100, Star, and possibly one of the Urbans disappeared, then Clear Channel would be in the position you're describing

I hear you...I really do. Just kinda sucks I guess. I've lived everywhere from Augusta to Philly to Wilkes-Barre then New York City for 12 years....(spoiled by Z100, BIG TIME). I never really lived in a market where you have flip the dial to 10 different stations to hear "All the hits". Plus, it doesn't help that I'm ULTRA passionate about it as well.  :  I griped about Q100 here for years and now, even with a shiny new Clear Channel CHR, It's apparent that it will never be the way I was used to. HAS to be this market.

 

[Wildstyle K]

If Q100, Star, and possibly one of the Urbans disappeared, then Clear Channel would be in the position you're describing

Mainly one of the more current hip hop focused urbans. I don't think any of the r&b listeners would run to a rhythmic CHR if one of the two r&b stations disappeared. But a missing station for mainstream hip hop hits may give a rhythmic chr a better chance if it played enough hip hop around the pop material.

 

[atlantaboy]

Again, much like WAEV/Savannah, or WNOK/Columbia. Both which have a huge black population. And still play everything from Justin Bieber, Avril Lavigne, Imagine Dragons, Drake, Muse, Nicki Minaj, and even Mumford & Sons...all on one station.

I'm assuming you do realize that Columbia SC has no Hot AC, Rhythmic, or Adult-Leaning CHR - same with Savannah (except for a low-rated HAC station that appears to be extremely conservative from their website)

Smaller market CHRs can play a wider variety of hits, but if you don't like what's on, remember that there aren't many other choices on the dial - which is why stations can play Drake and Imagine Dragons and not have to worry about people changing the station to a Rhythmic or a Hot AC

If Q100, Star, and possibly one of the Urbans disappeared, then Clear Channel would be in the position you're describing

I hear you...I really do. Just kinda sucks I guess. I've lived everywhere from Augusta to Philly to Wilkes-Barre then New York City for 12 years....(spoiled by Z100, BIG TIME). I never really lived in a market where you have flip the dial to 10 different stations to hear "All the hits". Plus, it doesn't help that I'm ULTRA passionate about it as well. : I griped about Q100 here for years and now, even with a shiny new Clear Channel CHR, It's apparent that it will never be the way I was used to. HAS to be this market.

There's a lot of conservative suburbs, and people that want to sing along to what's familiar - then combined with the fact that it's a Top 10 market with 8-10 stations covering current hits as opposed to 2-3 stations

Then, on top of all that, the black community is extremely loyal to the Urban stations, and the Hispanic/Asian communities (though large in Gwinnett), are nowhere near large enough to support a "Hispanic/Asian-leaning CHR", like Kiss/Dallas, Kiss/L. A., KTU, etc.

If there was a CHR targeting Midtown, Buckhead, or even parts of Gwinnett, I think you'd probably love it - but the ATL metro area is huge (almost half the State?), so programmers can't strictly target the city, like Z100 or KIIS do

 

[atlantaboy]

^Electroboy, I think this is another huge part of it...

If you live 30 miles outside New York City, Los Angeles, Washington DC, Philadelphia, etc., you're often in a different radio market - Long Island is covered by WBLI, Westchester is covered by WSPK, Western Connecticut is covered by New Haven/Danbury markets, Northern Virginia is covered by its own Hot AC, Eastern suburbs of Philly are covered by WSTW/WPST, sections of Eastern PA covered by Reading, Lancaster, York, etc., areas outside of L. A. are covered by Oxnard-Ventura market, etc.

Atlanta is sort of unique, I guess, in the fact that you can drive 60 miles in each direction and still be in market (with no other alternatives) - so Q100, Star, Power, 105.7, etc. can't just cater to the young, liberal population closer to the city, like a lot of other large CHRs can - they have advertisers located 30-40 miles out, so they can't afford to lose those listeners

 

[bringbackradio]

Again, much like WAEV/Savannah, or WNOK/Columbia. Both which have a huge black population. And still play everything from Justin Bieber, Avril Lavigne, Imagine Dragons, Drake, Muse, Nicki Minaj, and even Mumford & Sons...all on one station.

I'm assuming you do realize that Columbia SC has no Hot AC, Rhythmic, or Adult-Leaning CHR - same with Savannah (except for a low-rated HAC station that appears to be extremely conservative from their website)

Smaller market CHRs can play a wider variety of hits, but if you don't like what's on, remember that there aren't many other choices on the dial - which is why stations can play Drake and Imagine Dragons and not have to worry about people changing the station to a Rhythmic or a Hot AC

If Q100, Star, and possibly one of the Urbans disappeared, then Clear Channel would be in the position you're describing

I hear you...I really do. Just kinda sucks I guess. I've lived everywhere from Augusta to Philly to Wilkes-Barre then New York City for 12 years....(spoiled by Z100, BIG TIME). I never really lived in a market where you have flip the dial to 10 different stations to hear "All the hits". Plus, it doesn't help that I'm ULTRA passionate about it as well. : I griped about Q100 here for years and now, even with a shiny new Clear Channel CHR, It's apparent that it will never be the way I was used to. HAS to be this market.

There's a lot of conservative suburbs, and people that want to sing along to what's familiar - then combined with the fact that it's a Top 10 market with 8-10 stations covering current hits as opposed to 2-3 stations

Then, on top of all that, the black community is extremely loyal to the Urban stations, and the Hispanic/Asian communities (though large in Gwinnett), are nowhere near large enough to support a "Hispanic/Asian-leaning CHR", like Kiss/Dallas, Kiss/L. A., KTU, etc.

If there was a CHR targeting Midtown, Buckhead, or even parts of Gwinnett, I think you'd probably love it - but the ATL metro area is huge (almost half the State?), so programmers can't strictly target the city, like Z100 or KIIS do

In the case of urban radio and Gwinnett County, too bad only WVEE and WAMJ have a strong signal over that part, although WALR had a signal there once from its 104.7 days.

 

[ShawtyBlack_ATL]

I think you guys are suggesting that Power should go Rhythmic - the problem, as it's been for decades here in ATL, is that you can basically divide a line across ATL, south of which is mainly black, and north of which is mainly white - South of Atlanta large % of people listen to the 4 Urban stations, north of Atlanta, a large % of people listen to Q100, Star, B, and now maybe 105.7

I'm sure there's a population of single guys living in or near the city that want to hear tons of dance tracks on CHR, including those below the Top 20, but this group doesn't really fit in with the overall musical taste of either South or North ATL, which is why, time after time these attemps at rhythmic-leaning CHR repeatedly fail

If there was a huge Asian population, or huge overall Hispanic population, I think things would be different, and Power would be trending upward - but ATL is mainly a black and white city, with many advertisers either wanting to target one group of the other

Was 95.5 THE BEAT a Rhythmic failure? Rhythmic in ATL can be big if done right. Clear Channel (and Maverick) tried to copy 95.5 THE BEAT on WiLD 105.7/96.7, but the signal was trash! I'm with AJ JAM on this one...the first and original WiLD 96.7 was great! Those were the good ol' Buckhead party district weekends.

 

[atlantaboy]

I think you guys are suggesting that Power should go Rhythmic - the problem, as it's been for decades here in ATL, is that you can basically divide a line across ATL, south of which is mainly black, and north of which is mainly white - South of Atlanta large % of people listen to the 4 Urban stations, north of Atlanta, a large % of people listen to Q100, Star, B, and now maybe 105.7

I'm sure there's a population of single guys living in or near the city that want to hear tons of dance tracks on CHR, including those below the Top 20, but this group doesn't really fit in with the overall musical taste of either South or North ATL, which is why, time after time these attemps at rhythmic-leaning CHR repeatedly fail

If there was a huge Asian population, or huge overall Hispanic population, I think things would be different, and Power would be trending upward - but ATL is mainly a black and white city, with many advertisers either wanting to target one group of the other

Was 95.5 THE BEAT a Rhythmic failure? Rhythmic in ATL can be big if done right.

I'm not sure you can say The Beat was "big" - it was generating the lowest revenue out of the Cox cluster, and that was at a time when the Rhythmic format was doing well nationwide

 

[RadioDoogie]

We are kind of at the same place we were in early 2001 where Star decided to lean more hot AC, Q came in as mainstream CHR and the Beat went rhythmic. Now we have Star as hot AC, Q as an adult leaning CHR, and Power as a rhythmic leaning CHR. If the Beat didn't work in this scenario as a rhythmic station then, how can a rhythmic station work now? Just a thought.

 

[atlantaboy]

I've got to admit, I don't understand Power's decision-making process - why would a dance-leaning CHR only spin "I Love It" 19x a week (when it's near the top of ITunes), and still not have added Will.Iam, Mariah Carey, or Jennifer Lopez?

This after months of playing Fun/Lumineers in power one week, giving it no spins the next week, and then putting it back in power the next week, etc.

What's the background of this PD? At least with Jan Jeffries, you can tell what he's trying to do